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USA Today Columnist: Do we still agree on beating Trump? After your LGBTQ forum, I'm not sure.

TheAndyMan

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Dear Democrats:
We've been together for a while now. It's platonic, and probably always will be, as we share a home together as friends ever since I left the Republicans. But I appreciate our new relationship, and that's why I'm comfortable telling you here that I'm worried about you.
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Are you trying to lose the election?
When we watched CNN's LGBTQ town hall for the Democratic candidates Thursday, we had very different reactions. This is the event, you remember, where former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas said he'dpunish religious institutions for refusing gay marriage, and where Sen. Kamala Harris of California started by informing us of her pronouns, and then host Chris Cuomo, after a mild and dopey joke, had to go on Twitter the next day and apologize for making light of it. This is where Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts fielded a question about traditional marriage with a sneering, smug insinuation that the only people who would ask her about that are men who can't find a woman.
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I'm not asking you to betray your principles. But I'm going to be honest: When it comes to the election of 2020, I don't care about LGBTQ issues. And neither should you — not because these issues are not important, but because there isn't a single Democratic candidate who is against you on any of this, and not one of them will be worse than Trump.
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Don't hand issues to culture warriors
You're scaring me, however, when you tell me that you think you have to hammer on these hot-button issues in the places you need to win back electoral votes — in order to motivate your base to come out and vote.
Do you realize what you're saying? If you need an evening-long town hall on LGBTQ issues to "motivate" yourselves, then you're already doomed.
Take it from a former member of the GOP tribe, they're waiting for you. They are praying, you should pardon the expression, that you will do something stupid and pointless so that they can take the spotlight off of Trump. They will do anything to change the subject, so that you cannot run on the simple platform that Trump is an emotionally unstable ignoramus who is endangering our national security and trampling on the Constitution. Why help them?
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OP:I couldn't disagree more. Democrats are defending fundamental rights against a "culture warrior" minority. Not for a second should they stop protecting the rights and safety of lgbt people. This idea that there a "silent majority " who support homophobia, transphobia.


Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...rats-forgot-at-lgbtq-forum-column/3947332002/
 
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Dark Knight

Dark Knight

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How privileged must you be in order to say "I don't care about LGBTQ issues, change your priorities" -- oh, former Republican, gotcha.
 
Chaos Legion

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Not sure I believe showing support for a broad range of issues that affect many people necessarily diminishes campaigning to rid the US of Trump.
 
AnotherNils

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Yeah I'm not clicking the link to find out whether the author is a well-known or lesser-known idiot.

That shit should be in the OP
 
IronRinn

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"I still want to be a bigot, just not as much of an obvious bigot as the current guy. Hows about it?"
 
Sean

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Maybe put "Ex-Republican" in the title like the article itself does.

Pretty easily to tell exactly where this trash comes from and how much garbage it is.
 
Tamanon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Meaningless. Gay marriage debate is over, and anyone still salty about it is a Trumper already.
 
PeskyToaster

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Oct 27, 2017
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This person should just say what they want to say instead of making up a fantasy "You" to talk at in a confusing way.
 
wxMak

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Article is written by an ex-GOP Never Trumper so his opinion should mean nothing.
 
ned_ballad

ned_ballad

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People who talk like this were never going to vote Democrat. They're just looking for any excuse they can to vote Republican and feel like they made the morally correct choice, because they know voting Republican is never the morally correct choice. But they reeeaaallly hate brown people
 
Pai Pai Master

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"I don't care about LGBTQ issues"

Yes I know that theres more to that statement. But its fucking stupid and I'm not willing to listen to anyone throwing queer folx under the bus for the sake of better optics with bigots.
 
Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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This dude is an Ex-Gop that only left because of trump. His reaction to the forum is understandable and shouldn't even be considered
 
Meows

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JCHandsom

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This is the exact wrong way to beat Trump. Ironic that this is trying to start the kind of infighting they are claiming...giving voice to LGBTQ+ issues does, somehow.
 
klonere

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Warren is an ex-GOP person so I'm not sure why that's an issue.

Having a really dumb argument is, though.
 
Shake Appeal

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Yeah, we are beating Trump and all he stands for. If you can't get on board with "all he stands for," fuck off.
 
TheRuralJuror

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I don't see the big deal. These people are voters and would like to know their concerns are addressed, just like everyone else. Politics aside, this is just a poor and selfish opinion.
 
I Don't Like

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"God, are you TRYING to lose the election? Talking about those fucking gays or whatever? I mean come on. Like we get it gays exist. Good for them. I don't have a problem with that. But stop talking about them. Voters don't care! You'll lose the election with this gay shit! But not that I have a problem with them. People just don't want to hear about their issues. There's like 10 gay people in America anyway!"
 
Piston

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This is a bad take. Just because there are so many different fronts that Republicans are in the wrong on doesn't mean that they aren't all important. We are literally in a crisis of crises in that we have to fight for the future of this country and planet on fifteen different issues and we really have to put our best foot forward on each.

There is no problem trying to get things right at this point so our future candidate can run on a more supportive and inclusive platform.
 
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It's really funny he's saying that Republicans are waiting for the Democrats to make a mistake. Dude, they don't need the Democrats to make a mistake. Fox News generated its own news cycle based on someone using mustard.
 
I KILL PXLS

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Is the author LGBTQ? Otherwise it seems tone deaf to say we shouldn't care about LGBTQ issues and just take for granted that Democrats are better than Republicans on the issue. Actually, it seems tone deaf even if they are.
 
FILE_ID.DIZ

FILE_ID.DIZ

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Oh, it's Tom Nichols. Another Nevertrumper telling Democrats who have been trying to warn everybody that Skidmark is a danger how they should run their own party from the sidelines, ready to jump back into rightism feet-first the moment that Skidmark is gone.

He can go fuck a cactus. Burn the fucking lifeboats so that when Schmuck a L'Orange is gone, the right can't retreat into "well, that's over, Trump who, let's cut everything but the military".
 
BossAttack

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PlayALLTheGames said:
"God, are you TRYING to lose the election? Talking about those fucking gays or whatever? I mean come on. Like we get it gays exist. Good for them. I don't have a problem with that. But stop talking about them. Voters don't care! You'll lose the election with this gay shit! But not that I have a problem with them. People just don't want to hear about their issues. There's like 10 gay people in America anyway!"
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You forgot to add the obligatory, "I have friends who are gay, so I'm not homophobic."
 
Strike

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"You should only be talking about issues that affect me. How am I supposed to relate?"
 
Meauxse

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klonere said:
Warren is an ex-GOP person so I'm not sure why that's an issue.

Having a really dumb argument is, though.
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Because someone who left the party 40 years ago versus someone who left the party in 2016 after their line of hate filled rhetoric was unabashedly changed to direct language.

Is this seriously a thing? Warren, the ex republican? It doesn't show anywhere on her platform and yet people are aching to scream it out like it defines her.
 
Serif

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The comments on that article are embarrassing. You would think it being tied to your Facebook account and real name would give people a sense of shame. Guess not.
 
mreddie

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Oct 26, 2017
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The other candidate made fun of special needs people, bragged about shooting people and said sexist shit.

Fuck you homophobe columnist.
 
tommy7154

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All I'm hearing is apologize or compromise and it aint happening. We need real change and we need it yesterday.
 
DrArchon

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Yes Warren will lose the election for being a bit cheeky. Trump would never insult a broad swath of people like that, and certainly not in ways which are far more horrifying than they are smug.

Concern trolling asshole.
 
FILE_ID.DIZ

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When it comes to the election of 2020, I don't care about LGBTQ issues.
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What a coincidence; when it comes to the election of 2020, I don't care about the opinions of pasty old Federalist contributors who only just now realized that the Republican party is full of fucking Republicans!
 
zashga

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Garbage article. You know who's responsible for Trump getting elected? Republicans. You know who's not responsible for Trump getting elected? The gays. Taking an evening to talk about LGBT issues on stage is only unpalatable to bigots. This guy can take his concerns and go waste his vote on a third party candidate like good little enlightened centrist.
 
Lundren

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I don't care about LGBTQ issues.
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I guess we're even, article writer, because I don't care about your "opinion."

That goes for every motherfucker who thinks that LGBT rights need to be debated. I will never listen to anyone who would argue that some people are less entitled to the respect and rights we all deserve. Including the subtle ones on this forum. Eat shit.
 
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