there wasn't anything controversial about it. But people will take things out of context and twist words of others to score points, and the dems let them do it. So here we are.
He gave up the ghost when he attacked the rest of the Squad and brought up "Judeo-Christian Values."
He just wanted to attack some brown women.
To me? Nothing. I think the better question to ask is how somebody could perceive them to be a slight or controversial, which has a fairly obvious answer. They either aren't considering full context and/or they are victims of some horrible attack and are considering things through a more emotional, personal lens.
Interesting how he'd single out Omar, but not Trump, who's been more "disrespectful" about 9/11 than anyone else.
I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
Imagine using your parent's death to own the libs, imagine being that guy
it's not weird, her point was that an entire demographic was being blamed for the actions of a very small group. if you listen to the speech it makes total sense.From wikipedia
In the speech Omar said, "CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us [Muslims in the U.S.] were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."
"Recognized some people did something" is a very weird way to phrase it. It has been used as an attack on her for 'downplaying' the attacks on 9/11.
I can't help but think that the sentiment around 9/11 just feels like.... a mockery.
A mockery of every innocent person killed, tortured, raped or starved with the help of the U.S
How can Americans be so upset over a terrorist attack while they can just brush off destroying entire nation states? Killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. A hundred thousand dead Yemeni children. tens of thousands of dead Syrians, Afghanis, Pakistanis. And that's just in the last two decades. They've toppled several democratically elected leaders to install fascist dictators. Each one of those affected nations suffering terribly for decades under oppression. A global tragedy for millions. And the U.S has never apologized for ANY of it.
Who is going to honor those victims? When are we getting yearly memorials for those people?
Or Rudy Giuliani who's spent nearly 2 decades trying to hold on to political relevancy exploiting it.Interesting how he'd single out Omar, but not Trump, who's been more "disrespectful" about 9/11 than anyone else.
And I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.it's not weird, her point was that an entire demographic was being blamed for the actions of a very small group. if you listen to the speech it makes total sense.
it was literally direct blowback from american support of middle eastern terrorists and governments like the KSAI can't help but think that the sentiment around 9/11 just feels like.... a mockery.
A mockery of every innocent person killed, tortured, raped or starved with the help of the U.S
How can Americans be so upset over a terrorist attack while they can just brush off destroying entire nation states? Killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. A hundred thousand dead Yemeni children. tens of thousands of dead Syrians, Afghanis, Pakistanis. And that's just in the last two decades. They've toppled several democratically elected leaders to install fascist dictators. Each one of those affected nations suffering terribly for decades under oppression. A global tragedy for millions. And the U.S has never apologized for ANY of it.
Who is going to honor those victims? When are we getting yearly memorials for those people?
Yes because a war and attrocities commited by a nation state is exactly the same as an act of terror by a radicalized cell.And I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.
the only english words she knew up until age 12 were "hello" and "shut up" so i think i can forgive some clumsy phrasing when she's clearly correct in her overall pointAnd I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.
your comparison doesn't fly eitherAnd I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.
I'm sure it's just coincidence, and that he applies the same rigorous standards to white politicians, that he evidently does to brown ones. I'm sure. Implying anything else would mean calling him the R word, and that's the real bigotry, after all.Interesting how he'd single out Omar, but not Trump, who's been more "disrespectful" about 9/11 than anyone else.
I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
Yeah, Al-Qaeda is much more than that. I've seen what they've done to Afghanistan.Yes because a war and attrocities commited by a nation state is exactly the same as an act of terror by a radicalized cell.
you're confusing al qaeda with the talibanYeah, Al-Qaeda is much more than that. I've seen what they've done to Afghanistan.
Implying anything else would mean calling him the R word, and that's the real bigotry, after all.
No, it would be more like if some random Germans committed a crime and then you said "some people did something" referring to that.And I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.
It's insane how much of a break Trump gets in regards to that. That statement is a distillation of Trump as a narcissistic, un-empathetic troll and goes fucking ignored by so many people including in this caseToo bad he wouldn't call out his dipshit cult leader who bragged about now having the tallest building in Manhattan on 9/11.
Because she never didDid Ilhan Omar ever dishonor them?
I can't remember her ever doing it.
yes it doesIt doesn't make you pro conservative to denounce what she said.
She's going to have this thrown at her the rest of her career.
you're being reactionary, stop itI disagree.
She screwed up. Period. She handed the right a talking point and people on the left trying to run damage control for her look desperate.
I support her on almost all issues, including the original point she was trying to make, but she chose very bad words to call out Islamaphobia and wound up dismantling her own cause. She could have done better there.
And I get her point, but it's still a suboptimal way to phrase something like that. If I as a German would say some people did something in Germany between 1933 and 1945 that wouldn't fly.
If people are sensitive to 9/11 being referred to as "something" - fine. I just wonder if she would have gotten the same shit if she had said, "Muslims lost their civil liberties because of the actions of some." That's almost a fixed-phrase, is the same thing and is commonly used to refer to killing, including terrorism and mass murder.
Honestly, she said something insensitive while trying to make another point.
She's going to have this thrown at her the rest of her career.
That's her fault. Victims/survivors/family have every right to trash her on this.
I don't even see it as a lib or conservative thing. Omar could have made her point without belittling 9/11, which she absolutely did. There is no reason to defend her on that. It doesn't make you pro conservative to denounce what she said.
I think Political tribalism has blinded common sense here.