https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018...-to-getting-a-uwp-game-to-work-on-windows-10/
Just a small taste, but seriously go read the whole thing:
Just a small taste, but seriously go read the whole thing:
UWP and Windows Store comedy of errors: The Ars Technica story
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3 years and the world's biggest software company is still stuck at developing a good store for their core operating system business.
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It blows my mind. One would think that this should be a solved problem. GOG works perfectly fine. Steam works perfectly fine. Even uplay and origin work perfectly fine.
But Windows Store, which has even the incredible advantage of being embedded in windows install itself (that's something EU should bitch about btw, given their bitching about Internet Explorer), is a dumpster fire, for years and years.
It's a good write up. So sad to see this stuff still happening though. I remember complaining about similar stuff all the way back when Quantum Break came out.
Must be frustrating for developers when their PC releases end up being a mess because of these kinds of issues after working so hard
Must be frustrating for developers when their PC releases end up being a mess because of these kinds of issues after working so hard
Which is absolutely insane and shouldn't be an acceptable resolution.
It's been the accepted resolution for all Windows issues since 3.1 ;)
Windows issues, maybe. Not for issues with a game you bought on a store platform.
I think you'd have to be a masochist to even bother with this crap tbh. I have a more-than-capable PC and I deliberately avoid the Windows Store, even though I own a few games on there through buying them on Xbox (e.g. Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct, etc.).
There's just no point - if you want to play Forza or Gears or whatever you're going to have to bite the bullet and get an Xbox. It's not worth the hassle otherwise. Just pretend the PC version doesn't exist. You'll be a lot happier.
There's just no point - if you want to play Forza or Gears or whatever you're going to have to bite the bullet and get an Xbox. It's not worth the hassle otherwise. Just pretend the PC version doesn't exist. You'll be a lot happier.
It's sad. Smaller companies like GoG, Itch and Blizzard managed to make stores that work and let you download big games.
Right now the Windows Store bugs out and restart downloads instead of resuming them when I try to download games. Forza horizon 4 is 100 GB. Thankfully I don't have a bandwidth cap.
Other parts of Microsoft have ways for you to download stuff from their website that works. It's tragic that they tried to reinvent the wheel and failed.
Right now the Windows Store bugs out and restart downloads instead of resuming them when I try to download games. Forza horizon 4 is 100 GB. Thankfully I don't have a bandwidth cap.
Other parts of Microsoft have ways for you to download stuff from their website that works. It's tragic that they tried to reinvent the wheel and failed.
I'm glad somebody is finally writing about this. And the thing is, most of the problems they have had, I also had over the past three years. Forza 7 and Horizon 3 would work whenever they felt like it. Usually, the next windows update would fix it. But then the next update would break them again. Not spending one more penny in the store. I don't need that kind of aggravation.
I am waiting for "its working for me" defense showing up from other threads.
And yes, Windows Store is a shitshow with it's mansatory encryption, layers of DRM, taking away permissions from users to install directories, fragile balance that can break at any moment, and lastly terrible pricing.
It's terrible but I don't see it getting much better any time soon no matter how many Build/Ignite sessions they have with promises of better handling in the future.
And yes, Windows Store is a shitshow with it's mansatory encryption, layers of DRM, taking away permissions from users to install directories, fragile balance that can break at any moment, and lastly terrible pricing.
It's terrible but I don't see it getting much better any time soon no matter how many Build/Ignite sessions they have with promises of better handling in the future.
Not for games, though. Yes, a borked system is grounds for just nuking the OS. For games, the simple solution for most gamers is to simply boycott the Windows store and buy from any other source. That sucks a little for exclusives, but it's just not worth it. And that's ignoring all the other reasons people want UWP to die in a fire.
To be fair, for many people there are no big issues. Which doesn't mean the store isn't bad, but for many people it works fine. Reinstalled my pc this week and downloaded Halo Wars, Halo Wars 2, Sea of Thieves, Age of Empires:DE and Forza Horizon 4 all without any problem. But with downloads speeds varying from 80Mbps to 180 Mbps, so that could be better.
I vaguely recall reading about the winstore team being crazy small. Which would make sense given how mediocre to bad the store is.
This is simply unacceptable.
Personally,I can't remember encountering any serious issues with the few UWP games I have,but actually using and navigating the store is just bad.
Personally,I can't remember encountering any serious issues with the few UWP games I have,but actually using and navigating the store is just bad.
Honestly, it's probably the sole main reason I haven't bought any W10/Xbox games from the store. I'd like to play Forza or maybe Halo when it comes out on PC, but until they get their shit fixed, there is no point to pay now.
It would almost be better if they didn't even bother. Just push ahead on Xbox or put games out on steam. I had the option to get Quantum Break and Cuphead cross buy and instead just got them on steam instead. I'd much rather do that with any Xbox console exclusives.
Not for games if I remember right.
Anw, yeah this is insane. Even the call support don't know what to do. Its a mess. Horrible idea that 'windows phone like' OS. And still we have people defend this.
Yes, this is the right solution. It's absolutley fucking insane that you may have to reimage entire operating system to playable a game. It's also no guarantee you wouldn't have to do the same thing in a few months again once new Spring/Fall update hits.
Windows Store (and UWP) horrible solution for Application and particularly games distribution for many reasons mentioned above and in other threads.
The Windows Store has been a brutally failed experiment since it debuted with Windows 8. It hasn't gotten any better. I wish MS would just wise up and use Steam for their games. They'd reach a much wider audience.
Depends on whether or not they need more money. /s
MS should really get things together for the store. I haven't had issues myself on 3-4 separate machines, but Microsoft should really look into these issues.
That's why I'll stay away from Forza Horizon 3 and 4 until they are super cheap (10€ or less). No way I'm going through the same nightmare again after Killer Instinct. PC games have problems all the time, it's the nature of the platform, but a store having so many problems is NOT normal at all.
It would even be ok (annoying but ok) if they went EA/Ubi/Activison/Bethesda/Epic/CDPR route with a normal launcher that's not tied to the OS in an inexplicable manner.
At the very least it'd be easier to fix when it decides to break.
The biggest issue with the Win Store is that their games section was tacked onto a generic software store. While people normally don't really care about a general software storefront as long as they can get their stuff, gamers (and I use the term in a "people who play games" sense) expect much higher polish and functionality from a games storefront. After all, why shouldn't they? Steam, GOG, Origin, Uplay, Itch etc. have it, how could the world's largest software company not have it? Also, the scripts are a problem. While cancelling a download and restarting from scratch isn't an issue for a 25 MB app, a 15 GB game is a whole different animal. Same goes for install directory. People usually have a 256 GB SSD as their system drive. 3 10-GB games take a considerable chunk of digital real-estate. Having to mandatorily install your games in a single, non-modifiable location is pretty bad.
Reading all these stories about the Windows Store, I would prefer to buy a Xbone if I wanted to play Microsoft games instead of torment myself in that store. Never have used it to buy games, and never will in its current state. Plus I'm against the UWP format too. For me, it can die just like GFWL.
Between no mods and not being able to change anything with your game and the store being a fucking dumpster fire I'll never buy anything on it. I'd love to try seq of thieves an state of decay 2 but its just not worth the hassle to support this jank ass store. Glad its being covered.
I know what you mean, but as you say you've reinstalled recently. I haven't reinstalled in years and I won't go to such lengths just to get a game working (I did that years ago on my old PC, reinstalling loads of times over the course of a few years due to issues - I found it unbearably tedious and a massive waste of my time).
My view is more like: if I get a PC copy as a bonus due to buying the Xbox game that's fine. I won't install it as I already own it elsewhere, although if it wasn't tied to the Windows Store I probably would play it on my PC.
However, if I didn't have an Xbox but was interested in a certain title, I simply wouldn't purchase a game on the Windows Store and feel in any way comfortable doing so (and I'm not wedded to Steam or anything, I use GOG/Origin/Blizzard/Uplay/etc. - Windows Store is where I draw the line).
I am against UWP at its current state but i would have welcomed MS store as to have one more option for my hobby if there was a less restrictive UWP system, the store could function properly like all other stores we have and there were good sales and game offers.
The only game i could be tempted to buy from them is Age of Empires but if the tradeoff is limitation and frustration then let their store burn in hell like the first one.
The only game i could be tempted to buy from them is Age of Empires but if the tradeoff is limitation and frustration then let their store burn in hell like the first one.
This extends to Windows updates as well. It's like MS just threw everything that worked about Windows 7 out the window (pardon the pun) and decided to make Windows 8 and 10 work worse because reasons. I still can't understand why I just can't go download an update from their website and apply it to my system without having to use some stupid tool or program that doesn't seem to work half the time. I really can't understand why the biggest software house in the world can't get functional programs to work. I know OS work is hard and Windows 10 works very well for the most part but some parts of it (the more important parts) are seemingly made hard to use on purpose. It's really bizarre. I have quite a few games through the Windows store that I refuse to play because they can't be bothered to work. I've wanted to give them my money and they've said "thanks now take this asshole" in return.
Because they distribute win32 packages which are a known quantity for years now.
Ms store is tied to a new platform, one that is constantly changing as well.
Not saying it as an excuse because even that being the case those issues should have been fixed a long time ago, and it's an embarrassment that still haven't.
Oh but I've never had a problem with it so it must be perfect. /s
I used it twice and both times it fumbled the downloads and took eons despite having a pretty fast provider.
I used it twice and both times it fumbled the downloads and took eons despite having a pretty fast provider.
I guess the only solution is to drop this shitty store, make a new one, hoping this time you can catch people perpetually in your OS, promise gamers this time you'll get it right and put a few Xbox exclusives there hoping people will fell for it again.
We've waiting 6 years (give or take) for a serviceable store from MS....why should we have any confidence they'll finally fix it?
The download speeds are limited by Windows. Check your advanced update settings -> delivery optimization -> advanced. You'll be able to remove the download cap. (Note: don't do this if your download speeds aren't that brilliant in the first place. It'll go up to 180Mbps (for me at least))
This has been covered by so many websites already.. PCGamer, Windows Central, Ars, etc. Hope the priorities at Microsoft change fast, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Reminds me of the late 90's early 00's where we would joke that it's cheaper to buy a whole new printer rather than buy ink cartridges. Sometimes something absurd just makes more sense