I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be cannon. The other guys from VC 1 are not supposed to be there either.
If I remember correctly you could have some VC 1 characters in VC 2. Including selvaria.
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Valkyria Chronicles 4 announced for PS4/Xbox One/Switch (2018) [Update: See Post 1470]
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If I remember correctly you could have some VC 1 characters in VC 2. Including selvaria.
The mission itself will more than likely take place before that section of the story - or it will be treated as an "what if" story instead.
Outside of that, the PSP games had a bunch of unlockable/extra characters that didn't make sense in the story that you could get for shits & giggles.
Hopefully more like the 1st game than the 2nd. I loved Valkyria Chronicles 1 and triple dipped on PS3, PC and PS4. The second game was so bad though
This is the sequel to Valkyrie Chronicles that i've waited nearly ten years for. Reading that they are returning to the more grounded setting and storyline of the first game is music to my ears. The series completely lost me in the sequels due to the the PSP focus, school setting and more anime approach - I didn't even bother trying them, nor the by all accounts pretty terrible spin-off released last year - so i'm glad Sega finally woke up and realized what made the first game great.
Only VC2 has the school setting and all of them are equally "anime" (whatever that means). VC3's biggest crime is honestly the reuse of VC2 maps, but the two couldn't be more different while still being VC at their core otherwise.
These pesky meddling VC2 zombies are back again... this is the part where I blame anime for this misfortune!
Oh, I just realized I will have to reacclimate from keyboard + mouse back to controller again. RIP fast precision aiming and insta-pause spam.
If you have a Vita, they work there too.
Oh, I just realized I will have to reacclimate from keyboard + mouse back to controller again. RIP fast precision aiming and insta-pause spam.
If you have a Vita, they work there too.
VC2 is set the furthest in the timeline, so nothing should reference it in any appreciable manner. VC3 is more likely to be referenced with VC4 taking place at the same point in the timeline as it and VC1.
I'm going to guess it won't be important to understand 4. You might miss some cameos from the two games, if the past is any indication, but I don't know anyone who felt (for example) that their VC2 experience was made better by seeing Welkin and Alicia, let alone VC3's inclusion of kid Avan, Cosette and Zeri.
VC3 is a cool game on its own, taking the gameplay changes from VC2 and marrying it with a better story and characters. That said, the only way to play it in English so far is via a fan translation, which is great for playing the game but isn't the most elegant prose ever written. Also, if VC2's reliance on anime character tropes bothers you, VC3 isn't much better on that front. (Leila and her sub are still two of the dumbest characters to ever appear in a Valkyria Chronicles game, and that says a lot.)
I'd argue that the only part the original game handled really clumsily was the Darcsen/concentration camp stuff. The basic "innocent civilians go to war" stuff was fine, and the Darcsen stuff wasn't outright offensive at all, just a bizarre/clueless creative misfire.
See, I honestly really like the idea of incorporating racism as a gameplay mechanic in this kind of a setting. Like, forcing you to confront and deal with the fact that some of your soldiers just absolutely hate some of your others, and perform worse because of it, could be really cool. I'll definitely admit that some of how they actually went about implementing it wasn't great, but it is kind of something that had to be there to approach WW2.
The original VC's art was actually respectable, it had a subtlety to it and it was refreshing how modestly designed most (not all) all of the characters were to fit the war time setting. For example, this rag tag bunch of characters actually look like they could be in a military:
Then you move to the sequels and they lose the subtlety and ramp up the colour too high, destroying the watercolor aesthetic. It's full of ridiculous fringes. impossibly spiky hair, mini-skirts, suspenders etc - in other words "more anime":
Oh awesome. I always wanted to get into the franchise and it's awesome to see Sega releasing more titles like this. And the cute doggo has swayedme greatly.
In fact, while reading an interview with the Producer, it reminded me I wanted to get the first one's remaster. So it's downloading now (half price on EU PSN!) :)
In fact, while reading an interview with the Producer, it reminded me I wanted to get the first one's remaster. So it's downloading now (half price on EU PSN!) :)
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Loved the original game though I could never finish it because of an insanely hard campaign mission.
Keeping my eye on this one.
Keeping my eye on this one.
I think the friction and friendship among squadmates stuff was clever and interesting, yeah - from a mechanical perspective, the racism stuff was perfectly neat.
I mostly mean the stuff where the game took the whole not-Jews/not-Gypsies thing and then tied them into the fall of the ancient civilization backstory stuff. Just an odd choice to take the most serious material in the game and tie it into the most genre-elements part of the story.
Decided to go through and update the pre-reveal character sheet with the new main characters from Valkyria Chronicles 4.
I love how they're back to a mostly-standard Military Uniform with its own theme & depth to it.
I love how they're back to a mostly-standard Military Uniform with its own theme & depth to it.
I was interested until I watched that trailer.
Definitely not the target audience for that level of melodrama and anime-action-sappiness. Really enjoyed what I played of Vaklyria 2 though, back in the day, and still have the remaster.
Definitely not the target audience for that level of melodrama and anime-action-sappiness. Really enjoyed what I played of Vaklyria 2 though, back in the day, and still have the remaster.
i like this Point of view approach everytime theres a new number TITLE like 1 3 and 4 because it feels like a WORLD BUILDING that took place in a SAME EVENT. that said i hope they can continue this trend with 5, 6 and so forth. :)
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but VC1 sold by far the most over the two sequels even before the Pc and PS4 Remaster did right? Sega lost the plot when they decided to go to the PSP.
There are some references to characters and events but that's about it iirc, each game has its own fresh cast of characters so you should be okay to enjoy them out of order.
To anyone who hasn't played the game, VC2 characters only dress like that in school. In battle they wear military uniforms.
For those who want to directly compare the main characters of Valkyria Chronicles 1 to 4's:
RIP Largo, you will be missed.
(On that note, where are the lancers? Does the Federation not have Lancers, or have we just not seen any?)
RIP Largo, you will be missed.
(On that note, where are the lancers? Does the Federation not have Lancers, or have we just not seen any?)
It's true that the later designs are more oriented towards an otaku audience, but you act like the original VC didn't have some design problems too. The females were also in miniskirts, and even worse for some reason they got 'skirt armor'.
Complaining about the VC2 and VC3 designs while holding VC1 designs up to be some sort of 'respectable' is silly.
christ, VC2 looks so out of place. do they at least change into military-esque garb on the battlefield?Decided to go through and update the pre-reveal character sheet with the new main characters from Valkyria Chronicles 4.
I love how they're back to a mostly-standard Military Uniform with its own theme & depth to it.
For those who want to directly compare the main characters of Valkyria Chronicles 1 to 4's:
RIP Largo, you will be missed.
(On that note, where are the lancers? Does the Federation not have Lancers, or have we just not seen any?)
Yeah, this really shows that the series is headed back on the right track. It's not perfect but it's damn better than 2 and 3's direction.
I agree that it's a really good thing they now look like a military unit again. Also, it looks like most of the weapons have been scaled back to a more realistic size. I was always okay with lancers since they are like the VC universe's version of a bazooka crossed with a knights lance. I'm just glad we don't have these massive gunblade... things anymore:
Play whatever you can get your hands on. It don't matter.
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Never understood this statement. They've always looked anime.
I already acknowledged this:
"most (not all)"
Selvaria is the stand out for ridiculous character designs in VC1 but the general tone is considerably better than the sequels.
I mean, they do, but it's not too different - little-to-no armor, etc.
If there's better examples out there feel free to post them.
Look at her and then look at the VC1 ladies, there isn't all that much of a difference aside from the need for obvious simplification since it's for PSP instead of PS3.
Outside of the complete lack of armor of any kind, and shorter skirts, you mean? Because those certainly have nothing to do with it being on PSP.
Might want to look at that VC1 pic of your's again, all three of the ladies are wearing short skirts.
The designs for all 4 games are in line with each other overall.
Well,it is anime
But VC1 rather had designs that didn't make them look asian/overly anime,some characters aside (No offense meant by this)
I guess a better example would be Xenoblade Chronicles compared to Xenoblade Chronicles 2
For those who want to directly compare the main characters of Valkyria Chronicles 1 to 4's:
RIP Largo, you will be missed.
(On that note, where are the lancers? Does the Federation not have Lancers, or have we just not seen any?)
Aside from the 2 female characters having horns I quite like those
There's a difference between mid-length skirts with armor and 'short' skirts or 'miniskirts.'
The first game aimed for a basis in realism. The second game was aimed at middle/high schoolers & kids, so they set it in a high school and toned everything down to make it simpler. They got hit for that, so they kept it on PSP for the third but went for a 'darker' & 'grittier' coat of paint. This last game once again aims for a bit more realism.
There's a big difference between 1/4 and 2 - heck, even with its oddball characters, 3 still tends to have a little more realism than 2's childish & simplified designs.
Sorry but those VC1 skirts are full on mini.
Like I said, technical differences aside the designs are in line with each other overall. The handheld games have simpler designs and themes they adhere to (school for 2, delinquents for 3) but that's it. VC4 is on the most powerful hardware and also has the most detailed designs, but still overall cut from the same cloth as the others.
Obviously there are minor aesthetic differences between VC1 and VC4, but VC4 absolutely looks closest to VC1 aesthetically and mechanically from what we've seen so far. The aesthetic differences feel more easily ascribed to the fact that it's taking place in a snowy setting with a non-Gallian faction than to some dramatic new direction for the art or anything of that sort.
I'm even more confused. How can looking Asian the same as looking anime?
I'm not sure if I should enter an argument about skirts? lol
Is there a number of skirts before a threshold is crossed? Does Isara count in the skirt total if she spends 98% of the time in the tank? If VC2 ladies are wearing combat skirts by default but the VC1 ladies are wearing combat pants by default, does that mean VC1 wins the fashion and sensibility war?
The Skirt Skirmishes continue here, on Reset!
Is there a number of skirts before a threshold is crossed? Does Isara count in the skirt total if she spends 98% of the time in the tank? If VC2 ladies are wearing combat skirts by default but the VC1 ladies are wearing combat pants by default, does that mean VC1 wins the fashion and sensibility war?
The Skirt Skirmishes continue here, on Reset!
It runs on a potato and any decent gaming rig could probably run at 4K.