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Valve’s Leaked Steam Data Suggests Wolfenstein II Really Did Sell Poorly on PC
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It's a very mediocre game so I am not too sad about that. What I am really sad about is that Prey didn't sell better. And Evil Within 2, too (but I didnt play it yet, loved the first game though).
I think it sucks considering this game was basically made with PC in mind not just technically but from a legacy standpoint
Pretty silly to compare it to TNO after all the huge sales that game took part in for years. I know TNC got reduced in price pretty fast, but obviously not in the "under 10 bucks"-region the predecessor was in for quite a few years.
But honestly, I think those numers are actually pretty good? Like, it's possible the game reached something between 1.5m and 2m in sales for all platforms (before Switch). That will obviously not recoup the immediate costs, but its also far from the absolute disaster some tried it to paint as.
But honestly, I think those numers are actually pretty good? Like, it's possible the game reached something between 1.5m and 2m in sales for all platforms (before Switch). That will obviously not recoup the immediate costs, but its also far from the absolute disaster some tried it to paint as.
If the switch version doesn't outsell the pc version then the game is truly a flop. It's one of like 3 shooters on the system now.
The Evil Within 2 was really bad, it deserves those sales.
Surely mods or something (other than lowering the difficulty) could make the combat in Wolfenstein 2 a lil better. The story in WS2 was the best part about it. It doesn't deserve bad sales, but the difficulty in combat was uneven.
Surely mods or something (other than lowering the difficulty) could make the combat in Wolfenstein 2 a lil better. The story in WS2 was the best part about it. It doesn't deserve bad sales, but the difficulty in combat was uneven.
Those games can still do well but releasing them on the same day as other mega hits and the game itself not being that great definitely puts them up against the wall. Bethesda has horrible marketing and scheduling.
500k after less than one year on the martket is fine for one sku and the zero advertising Bethesda did.
Prey sales don't seem too bad, but I wonder what % of them were actually at full price, considering that, at least on PS4, it was on sale 50%+ off not too many months after release.
I'm very sad about The Evil Within 2. The director of that game went on the 8-4 Play podcast and was very interesting, and had numerous cool stories on how he got a job in the Japanese game industry, what was challenging about development, etc. I was hoping his directorial debut would sell well!
I'm very sad about The Evil Within 2. The director of that game went on the 8-4 Play podcast and was very interesting, and had numerous cool stories on how he got a job in the Japanese game industry, what was challenging about development, etc. I was hoping his directorial debut would sell well!
i don't think it has anything to do with the marketing. just word got around it was meh and nobody really bothered with it.
still holding off on it personally. i'd gladly throw $60 at it right now as i'm jonesing for a single player FPS but everything i hear about it is negative or it's okay but with caveats
Well it was one of the worst playing FPS games this Gen so yeah, didn't deserve shit. A shocking story and some interesting characters only go so far.
Edit: okay. That's a bit harsh. Can't emphasize how bitterly disappointed I was with the game. Especially since I had just played Doom a bit before, which while very different style plays so so well.
Edit: okay. That's a bit harsh. Can't emphasize how bitterly disappointed I was with the game. Especially since I had just played Doom a bit before, which while very different style plays so so well.
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You have to remember that we're also looking at an abysmal average sale price on all platforms too.
These aren't $60 sales.
There's a reason they've pivoted to having co-op.
I LOVE the first game. That said, many here couldn't stand it but love 2.
I don't think the moment to moment gameplay was as good as the previous Wolfenstein, but it was still a fun singleplayer FPS with an enjoyable story. Kind of a bummer that it didn't do too well as this game also goes harder against the nazi and racist ideologies flaring up recently than any other AAA game. It really is a product of the current political atmosphere. I kind of imagine these sales being used as ammo on less wholesome parts of the internet as "proof" gamers don't want "SJW" themes in videogames which is a shame.
Recently, DOOM, the Witcher 3, the Legend of Zelda BOTW, Horizon, Whatever Happened to Edith Finch, Firewatch, and God of War (2018). Among others.
The Evil Within 2 had one of the worst stories, and mediocre combat I've seen in games in recent memory. I don't see how anyone can Stan for that game...but to each his/her own.
EDIT: WHAT REMAINS OF EDITH FINCH
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Well, the game is terrible so I hope it gives Bethesda/MachineGames a kick in the arse to put more effort on the inevitable 3.
Prey deserves more, Im 6 hours in and its a joy.
Prey deserves more, Im 6 hours in and its a joy.
It's funny you mention mediocre combat. Many here on this very forum slam Horizon and Witcher 3 all of the time for that very thing. I disagree with all of you, obviously. lol
I think TEW2 and Witcher 3 both have great combat/gameplay.
Saw the Reddit thread for this.
That's good I guess? I'm disappointed I contributed to one of the purchases of the game, considering how bad it was. It would be neat if they could take a hint and maybe update their game post-release like most other developers do.
Why release a game with combat but no feedback for taking damage? Just, why?
That's good I guess? I'm disappointed I contributed to one of the purchases of the game, considering how bad it was. It would be neat if they could take a hint and maybe update their game post-release like most other developers do.
Why release a game with combat but no feedback for taking damage? Just, why?
I wish it was enough to get them to just update the damn game.
Less than The Old Blood? Ouch. I know the prices are different, but a full fledged sequel selling less than some stand alone spin off DLC seems pretty bad.
It wasn't as good as the other Wolfensteins. I don't see how it was expected to do well when word of mouth was weak among the fanbase.
The Switch version will have hard time gettimg close to 500k imho.
I respectfully disagree that TEW2 has good combat. Many of the encounters involve close quarters combat and Sebastian's weird melee combat when you have 2 bullets available is completely nonsensical.
Like I see they want you to be stealthy, but even that is somewhat broken.
I checked out of the first game in chapter 9 and the sequel is one of my favorite games this gen.
Personally I'm not surprise, it's one of the games I wish I held off on until it was cheaper because it wasn't worth full price. The level design, gameplay and story were all worst than the original. The only thing improved was the graphics. Also that terrible remix of a classic rock song at the end was just bad.
It's not really that bad. Bethesda released a lot of games in 2017 that underperformed and had a similar number of sold units. It was a combination of awful marketing, release window (it was released a same day as AC Origins and Super Mario Odyssey) and mixed opinions at launch. I hope that sales won't discourage them from greenlighting Wolfenstein III.
1-the game is messy on PC, currently there are a ton of bugs that haven't been patched.
2-I still strongly believe Bethesda should cool it with their attitude. Sure they own Fallout and Elder Scrolls, those are November franchises.
But the rest of their games AREN'T November tier. Dishonored is awesome but it's not "up to snuff" with other November games. This one was released the same day as AC:O and Mario Odyssey, they could've delayed it a week. But they though: "we're Bethesda, it will sell".
BUT IT DIDN'T. Same with Prey, people think they will buy their games just because they are Bethesda? Market the damn thing for fuck's sake.
That same attitude was why their E3 conference was only second to EA's in worst conferences. Not everything they do needs clapping, they are not "the coolest kids in the block". Bethesda makes good games, but they should reaaaaally stop pretending their games are fine enough to compete with other AAA franchises in busy moments of the year. January and April would be good months for Dishonored and Wolfenstein imo.
2-I still strongly believe Bethesda should cool it with their attitude. Sure they own Fallout and Elder Scrolls, those are November franchises.
But the rest of their games AREN'T November tier. Dishonored is awesome but it's not "up to snuff" with other November games. This one was released the same day as AC:O and Mario Odyssey, they could've delayed it a week. But they though: "we're Bethesda, it will sell".
BUT IT DIDN'T. Same with Prey, people think they will buy their games just because they are Bethesda? Market the damn thing for fuck's sake.
That same attitude was why their E3 conference was only second to EA's in worst conferences. Not everything they do needs clapping, they are not "the coolest kids in the block". Bethesda makes good games, but they should reaaaaally stop pretending their games are fine enough to compete with other AAA franchises in busy moments of the year. January and April would be good months for Dishonored and Wolfenstein imo.
I don't think it's just that. They've been really bad with their new marketing strategy which currently seems like to do very little of it.
How many copies accumulatively would it it need to sell to be profitable, do we have a ball park on that?
