1. Salty Rice

    Salty Rice
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    Great to see these high numbers for Warframe.
     
  2. Hamchan

    Hamchan
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    Wow I'm going to be poring over this sheet the whole day. Very interesting.

    Also it's a shame that Valve quickly closed this up. They had a good excuse when killing Steam Spy last time with the GDPR compliance. This time it's pretty apparent that they just want don't want people to know numbers.
     
  3. Fawz

    Fawz
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    Very cool info to have and really puts some games into perspective. But if I understand it's tracking the amount of unique players that launched the game. This means that:
    • Family Sharing and Free Weekends likely triggers player count without necessarily being a Sale
    • Free Games or free periods where games are acquired are included
    • The numbers aren't users who launched the game and so isn't necessarily actual Players
    • It likely counts accounts used in the Dev/Testing period since Steam doesn't use a seperate enviornment
    • It doesn't differentiate the acquisition method
    • Purchase price naturally varies greatly
    • DLC and extra purchases aren't accounted for
    • It's unclear how re-releases and delistings are handled since many GOTY games are only listed once if the old one was removed from the store
     
  4. Mubrik_

    Mubrik_
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    honestly think it's time warframe moves to server architecture instead of p2p
    still love the game tho
     
  5. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    This is based off of achievement unlocks. You don't unlock achievements when family sharing.
     
  6. Sei

    Sei
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    Oops always forget TR is ex Eidos.
     
  7. JaeCryo

    JaeCryo
    Member

    I'm honestly surprised how high Portal (1?) is... that's nuts to me.
     
  8. subtropisch

    subtropisch
    Member

    It has definitely been patched I am actually getting pretty good performance with D2 ans DotO now.
     
  9. Fawz

    Fawz
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    Pretty sure you do get Achievements for titles launched as part of Family Sharing. I'm not home to check, but that's what's stated on the Steam Official Family Sharing Page and online forum questions.
     
  10. Mondo

    Mondo
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    Not surprised by Unturned's stats. It's a free DayZ game without monetization (outside of donating like 5 bucks to the dev with the Gold Upgrade), gets updated frequently with new features and maps, has a built-in map editor and workshop support for mods.

    I'm always having a great time with it whenever someone hosts a server for our friendgroup.
     
  11. Loxley

    Loxley
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    Left 4 Dead 2 still that popular after all these years. TAKE THE HINT VALVE.
     
  12. gcwy

    gcwy
    Member

    Yes. Terraria is an amazing game. Shame the sequel got cancelled though.
     
  13. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    I'm looking at my buddy's steam profile, and we have been family sharing for years, and none of his achievements come from any games I share with him. Some of which I know he'd played enough of to unlock achievements.

    In fact, nothing from our shared games shows up on his account, not even under recent activity.

    The only thing I can think of is either that page is wrong, or maybe achievements unlock locally but not on your account or something.
     
  14. Unknownhero

    Unknownhero
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    holy shit, I don't see injustice 2 on there at all.
     
  15. Warframe killing it. Wow!
     
  16. Magwik

    Magwik
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    It's at 121k
     
  17. Ebtesam

    Ebtesam
    Member

    what! No i don't think Gabe will allow it to happen
     
  18. Unknownhero

    Unknownhero
    Member

    Huh, not sure how I missed that lol. Still, jeez.
     
  19. SirFritz

    SirFritz
    Member

    Yes you do, I've been family sharing stardew valley from a family member and I've gained achievements.
     
  20. Durante

    Durante
    Dark Souls Man Member

    Dark Souls 3 at 3.3 million is extremely remarkable. And so is Nier:A, perhaps even more so given the franchise. Both did huge numbers at full price.
    (What do both have in common? They aren't late ports for one)

    Well, I mean TIS-100 is much cheaper, and it's also totally amazing.

    Is it really that dumb? They sold quite a few copies at that price, and they can still sell more at lower price points. If you sell 100k at $50 and later on another 200k at $20 you made more money than if you sold 300k at $20 and another 200k at $10.
     
  21. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    can you show them to me on your account?
     
  22. Trago

    Trago
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    Square are still behind in that regard. At least Dragon Quest XI is releasing day and date in the west as the PS4 version.

    Seems like Namco are still the only ones who have gotten with the program.
     
  23. Bernd Lauert

    Bernd Lauert
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    Witcher 2 frequently being on sale for 3 bucks helps.
     
  24. SirFritz

    SirFritz
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    Sure.

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  25. Dr. Dre's Dr.

    Dr. Dre's Dr.
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    Plus 3 being pushed on console so much
     
  26. collige

    collige
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    Well yeah, they gave the game away for free
     
  27. DukeBlue

    DukeBlue
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    Paladins in the top 10 feels correct
     
  28. Tya

    Tya
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    A niche game like Factorio being at 1.7M while having a policy of never going on sale is impressive.
     
  29. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    Thanks

    I have absolutely no idea why my friend's achievements aren't showing up then. Oh well.
     
  30. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    And made a shitload of money in the process.

    Game is popular, and makes money even when given away for free. Hmmm....
     
  31. shoptroll

    shoptroll
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    Looking over the data on Ars's article for a couple things in my wheelhouse:

    Point & Click Adventures:
    * Best I can find is Deponia at ~750k
    * Best LucasArts seems to be Grim Fandango Remasterd at ~510k. MI2:SE is ~288k, DoTT is ~265k. Full Throttle is MIA.
    * No Thimbleweed Park
    * Nothing from Wadjet Eye
    * Nothing from Sierra (nu-King's Quest is likely a flop as expected)

    There is probably some confirmation bias but looking at the numbers, it's hardly surprising that Telltale went full-tilt into their current model. (The Walking Dead at ~2m. Wolf Among Us is ~1m and Tales of the Borderlands is ~500k) Or why "walking simulators" have come into their own finally. With some exceptions, most of the well known point & click adventures seem to cap out at around ~250k. That's pretty bleak odds. (Situation might be slightly better on GOG which has catered to fans of that genre for longer).

    Might & Magic franchise:
    Heroes of Might & Magic III - HD Edition at ~591k
    Clash of Heroes at ~309k

    No wonder Ubi put that franchise on ice :( Could be better on GOG or UPlay but that doesn't paint a good picture at least for the more recent games. Heroes V is sold on Steam but lacks achievement support.

    And I'm pleased to see SolForge at #1000. Such a shame that game had to die.

    I wonder if part of that is that it could possibly give some insight into how well they're doing financially. The 30% cut of every sale is one of the worst kept secrets in the industry, so if you can track the user numbers over a long enough period of time and account for sales + free weekends you could theoretically work out how much cash they're making in a given month. As a privately held company they probably don't want to disclose more than they have to.
     
  32. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    ...because it's not a secret.
     
  33. collige

    collige
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    Huh? I thought all the l4d2 dlc was free on pc
     
  34. Chekhonte

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    Dark Souls 3 and PtD edition have twice the sales individually of DSII. I would assume that they would have all sold about the same or have been a steady rise upward with each sequel.
     
  35. Chekhonte

    Chekhonte
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    That game was on everyone's lips for about 2 years. It doesn't surprise me considering that it's practically free during sales.

    I remember the weatherman on my local station saying the cake is a lie
     
  36. mario_O

    mario_O
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    huh, first I hear of Unturned.
     
  37. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    I didn't say they made money through DLC, I said they made money by giving L4D2 away. They talked about this at Steam Dev Days in 2014. They were experimenting with different monetization methods. This was around the time they had started doing cross-game markets, where you could unlock items in one valve game and trade them in other valve games. So, they tried giving away both Portal 2 and L4D2 to see what would happen. Because, by doing so, they increased the number of people in the item trading pool, this drove up the demand for rarer items (because now more people were shopping for them because giving those games away expanded their market). Valve takes a few cents off of every item sold on the market. At dev days, they revealed that giving those games away translated into enormous profit through the market manipulation.
     
  38. RionaaM

    RionaaM
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    I think you can't see them because they don't own the game. From what I understand, in their profile you can only see stuff that's bound to their account. Games played through Family Sharing aren't owned, so while the achievements are unlocked and tied to the account, the games themselves are not.
     
  39. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    But then how would they show up in SirFritz's screenshot above?
     
  40. shoptroll

    shoptroll
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    I mean, Valve doesn't outright say they get a cut. But whenever the topic comes up with devs there's always this air of "well... We're not supposed to say anything but...". Which is why I said it's a poorly kept secret.
     
  41. Krejlooc

    Krejlooc
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    they talked about their cut in a lecture at Steam Dev Days on embracing UGC.

    the reason devs aren't supposed to talk about their specific contracts is that the contract between them and valve is classified as a trade secret. But it's not really a secret what the standard cut is.

    Bonus: Sometimes, valve will actually take less than 30% depending on the situation.
     
  42. The Dink

    The Dink
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    Good to see some actual numbers.

    Also, just how rich is Eric Barone now? Nearly 5 million unique players for Stardew Valley (on Steam alone!) has got to more than make up for all that work put into it over the years.
     
  43. Salmone_D_Oro

    Salmone_D_Oro
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    Interesting game but no one developed it properly, it wasn't that bad at all
     
  44. NoPiece

    NoPiece
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    It really isn't their data to give away, it is the developer/publisher's. If the dev/pub wants to share their data, they can without asking Valve. But Valve can't give away Bethesda's or anyone else's sales data. Steam is a marketplace not a publisher.
     
  45. Durante

    Durante
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    DS2 sales are split rather evenly between the original release and SotfS.
    DS1 was given away at some point, and extremely cheap at others.
    So taking both of these into account, the full-price sales / revenue are likely on a rise over the 3 so far.
     
  46. Chekhonte

    Chekhonte
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    That's insightful. Thanks. I didn't see that it was the scholarship edition.
     
  47. shoptroll

    shoptroll
    Member

    Ah. Didn't see that before. Thanks for clarifying!
     
  48. Tagyhag

    Tagyhag
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    Valve isn't going public.
     
  49. I still believe.
     
  50. v_iHuGi

    v_iHuGi
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    Also Witcher 2 being the superior game should help too.