Discussion in 'Video Games' started by olobolger, Jul 6, 2018.
wat the hell is Unturned???
These games only include people who actually played the game, Not people who have them lying in their backlogs for later. Also Trails games apparently do really well on GOG and SC's all time low was 14.99 on there compared to 19.49 on Steam, So that definitely attracted people.
also im not sure why people are acting like Cold Steel 2 did bad? Its a 40 dollar game that came out on PC 2 years after console, and is a direct sequel to a huge story driven RPG so the drop off is of course going to be pretty big.
I'm sure XSEED is happy with Cold Steel's performance on PC.
Weird, Street Fighter V doesn't seem to be on the list, it has achievements though.. would've been interested to see how it ended up selling.
I feel like there are a ton of games sitting in people's backlogs that haven't been touched. I wonder if Valve is going to do anything for the pubs/devs that are getting low balled in their numbers and getting negative press from it. I feel a lot of games on here are low because of people not playing them. I already came across 20+ games in this thread that I own but haven't played and I know there are a huge amount of people like me out there.
For example. I own almost every Ys game but have only played Origins. Same goes for Final Fantasy and Trails in the Sky / Cold Steel. And that's not even close to what I haven't played.
After all that said. I'd still like to know the Street Fighter V numbers to see how many people at least attempted to play the game.
GTAV's numbers confuse me, GTAV sells that much without including Rockstar Club Versions & we don't get RDR2 day one?
Im starting to wonder if they have a contract with Sony or something to delay the PC version, even one of the top shareholders asked why there wasn't a PC version of RDR2 & i can see why.
My theory on some sort of contract isn't entirely rubbish, i do believe there is a contract between Sony & Take 2, one of the details we know is Take 2 were not allowed to release GTA4 on 360 before PS3, when the 360 version was finished a few months earlier.
I'm even buying Ys Memories of Celceta at launch but im not playing it until after I beat SEVEN. I feel bad every day that I dont make any progress on my backlog.
What is Unturned
Damn rocket league only 10m on steam ? So +30 on console alone?? Holy unexpected tbh
Valve should really get into the business of releasing the fifth instalment of their series judging by the sales of Grand Theft Auto, Skyrim and Civilization. Perhaps they can buy a couple of series that ended after their fourth instalment.
They had 10.5 million in sales in March 2017 with 29 million users and at the beginning of this year they had 6 million additional sales and 40 million registered users.
On another note...
This thread is really bad with people creating sensationalism with numbers that are lowballed across the bored. But the majority of people here aren't going to use the facts presented to them as to why the numbers are the way they are and they are going to spit their misinformation. Because negativity and drama tastes too good baby.
Barter has both for some games and there's significant difference
They really should make a bundle of the three Trails in the Sky games.
Checked our own game and the results were noticeably less accurate than the old SteamSpy prediction method.
own a game and started it once. So those numbers would naturally always be lower than the actual owners.
So at best it's an indicator of "this game has sold at least this much, but I guess there's no way to estimate how much lower than the actual owners this number is.
It's interesting data, but it's far from providing a comprehensive picture of a game's sales.
Goes to show how many people have insane backlogs.
17k copies for the game is bad, regardless how you spin it. You should contrast Trails sequels with other JPRGs on Steam, then you will understand just how bad 17k copies is compared to the average of what "Tales of" or Hyperdimension.
Cold Steel 1 broke a million mark on PS4. PC is selling 3-4% of what PS4 other platforms. You can use the mentality that 3%>0%, but XSEED would benefit much more if they focused on PS4, Switch and mobile.
Steam gaming is so weird. It almost smells musty. All these games remind of 1997 or something.
Team Fortress 2 (kill me of boredom, this game still exists edition)
Counter Strike (it's 2018 guys)
All these run on $200 laptops at max settings probably
Such old musty games.
Cross-checking this data with the Valve-provided best sellers of 2018 so far (https://store.steampowered.com/sale/2018_so_far_top_sellers/). Both at the start of July so probably pretty good.
Keep in mind Valve's lists are probably categorized by revenue and includes DLC and MTX revenue. I'm also going to stick with new 2018 releases.
Jurassic World Evolution - 481,240
Kingdom Come: Deliverance - 827,988
Warhammer: Vermintide 2 - 1,252,257
DRAGON BALL FighterZ - 444,795
FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION - 489,872
RAFT - 810,826
House Flipper - 351,645
Vampyr - 162,765
Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet- 183,822
FINAL FANTASY XII THE ZODIAC AGE - 110,374
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom - 124,778
Bless Online - 192,188
BATTLETECH - 289,619
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim VR - 99,326
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - 203,867
DARK SOULS: REMASTERED - 348,944
Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia - 224,856
There also lists for top VR games this year and top new releases by month, if someone wants to do the work.
Cold Steel 1-3 sold 1.3m across PS3,Vita,PS4 and PC as of June. The PS4 version only sold like 13k in Japan while CS2 sold 11k.
48k people bought and played Cold Steel 1 on Steam. This doesn’t include the GOG users or people who have it lying in their backlogs. For a 40 dollar port of a 2 year old niche game (in the west). Its pretty good.
It outsold SC and is the 2nd highest selling Trails game on PC. Which I’m sure is more than what XSEED was expecting.
Cold Steel 2 has been out for a much shorter time frame and raked up 17k players on Steam. Thats not bad. Especially since it came out on PC with little notice and attention.
Neptunia and Tales are bigger franchises than Trails and Falcom games aren’t the highest budget titles. With XSEED being a smaller studio I highly doubt they didn’t profit off of CS2. Trails has always been really niche in the west and XSEED is well aware.
Xanadu Next, Zwei 1 and 2, Ys SEVEN didn’t sell very well at all, but XSEED keeps localizing them and releasing them on PC. They wouldn’t be doing this is they were losing money.
In contrast to Divinity Original Sin, where the combat is super fun and the sequel immediately set records.
Apparently the guy that worked out this method has subsequently been in touch with Valve. Though he can't say exactly what is happening -
"I never called it a leak, that's arstechnica calling it that.
I've been chatting with valve about it/their replacement these past few days. I cannot speak on their behalf for their reasoning in doing so, but I don't think their decision to remove it involved any malice or spite towards steamspy."
While this does make sense since prior to this Valve had always been supportive and even recommended SteamSpy as a utility for developers, I still don't believe the GDPR reasoning or understand the full motivation yet
Finally some real numbers. Based TF2 hatlords.
Nice number for Bayonetta, Vanquish should be higher :(
Now I understand why VALVe is not focused on Half Life 3 =(
The last official numbers from Falcom (as of June) put the entire series (that is, ToCS Vita, ToCS PS3, ToCS2 Vita, ToCS2 PS3, ToCS1 PC, ToCS2 PC, ToCS3 PS4) together at 1.3 million sold. In total.
(Edit: I just saw that someone already corrected you -- the number was off by such a ridiculous degree that I replied immediately)
Frostpunk is cheaper and has no DLC, but FFXV is as expensive. The lines between tiers would have to be extremely narrow.
Edit: In regards to Cold Steel, I am really puzzled by lack of popularity. Setting, JRPG genre, large cast of characters that should appeal to Steam audience, good story, etc... are all good. And the port itself is great. Why is this not selling? It is just weird to me.
Edit 2: PoE 2 sales are a shame as well. I actually enjoyed 2nd game quite a bit. That said main storyline had issues in the game but I doubt this is why it is not selling. Maybe people do hate pirates.
Also, Skyrim SE sells very well to this day (at this moment it's #10 in RPG top sellers on Steam; for comparison: TW3 is #13 and Fallout 4 is #16), so some of those millions are surely new sales.
Unturned is popular with kids. My bro has 2000+ hours with it.
Besides, Fallout 4 released 4 years after Skyrim. That's 4 entire years of Skyrim repeatedly going on sale before Fallout 4 released. I don't expect Fallout 4 to reach Skyrim's numbers, but I've also no doubt Fallout 4 will eventually close the gap as it drops further in price.
Portal! Holy shit!
above. I'm sure some of the old Skyrim's owners got it for free, but a lot of them didn't bother because of the poor mod support compared to Oldrim. If you got it for free, it doesn't mean all of those 4.4 million of people did. Actually, right now Skyrim SE is #6 in Top selling RPGs, above Fallout 4, so it's still selling very well.