Valve's Artifact Card "Crack the Whip" [Update: card name changed to Coordinated Assault]

BreezyLimbo

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Wow that's uhm

after all the colors they could've used, they used it for Black Cards? Uhm

Yikes
 

Rover

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could be worse but how did nobody notice this and think to rename the card at least
 

Hagi

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That's pretty funny and I'm sure they'll change it when they get people complaining.
 

Kade

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I understand the tonedeafness from Valve but if you think about it, the black hero is given the whip and they are cracking it, either to scare/motivate their neighbours -- which can be any colour -- or hurt them.
 

Adamska

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It's a black card hero though, not a dark-skinned hero. Still kind of a bad association.
 

Darryl M R

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No one who participated in the creation of this card saw an issue? Unforced error. Diversify your organizations.
 

Sober

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Yeah that sounds like no one caught that.

You could literally fix this by renaming the card.
 

funky

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While dissapointed at valve, I am not that surprised.


You telling me the weird libertarian internet company with the questionable moral compass was gamma get kinda a little racist at some point? No way!
 
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Gyroscope

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I saw tidings of this happening during the PAX stream. Black Hero is also being taken out of context in both directions.
 

Anteo

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I understand the tonedeafness from Valve but if you think about it, the black hero is given the whip and they are cracking it, either to scare/motivate their neighbours -- which can be any colour -- or hurt them.
Yeah i think they got caught up explaining the effect to themselves and completly forgot about the implications of having the words black and whip in a card. Could have been fixed by renaming card and changing art but they didnt notice.
 

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Let's see if libertarian Valve actually bothers to fix this, or if they'll think nothing's wrong with it.
 

Hagi

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I'll honestly be surpised if they don't change the name especially since it's just a digital card game. Not that surprised they missed the connotations though given how many cards there probably are.
 

Minsc

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I saw tidings of this happening during the PAX stream. Black Hero is also being taken out of context in both directions.
Yeah i think they got caught up explaining the effect to themselves and completly forgot about the implications of having the words black and whip in a card. Could have been fixed by renaming card and changing art but they didnt notice.
They could fix this by renaming the card, but if black hero is a recurring target, they'll inevitably run in to more issues as cards are created that target black heroes. I think they're just going to have to replace the black hero to be another color going by this thread, though white hero doesn't sound any better, or most other colors, like yellow hero.
 

Stygr

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This is what Valve means with "Black hero"
This has nothing to do with skin color, at all

 

ShinySunny

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LOL.
And they even posted it on their official account.
I guess people are brain dead when doing QA check.
Could be any color/element heroes, maybe change the card name....anything.
 

DrArchon

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This is what Valve means with "Black hero"
This has nothing to do with skin color, at all

Yeah. I immediately recognized it as "Black" in the same sense as MtG, where it's not about race.

But, the fact that it can be interpreted the other way is a problem and we shouldn't be against Valve changing the card name.
 

Blyr

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yikes..

hopefully now that it's been pointed out (how did it even make it this far??) they'll change it, and not double down
 

Hella

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"As a design philosophy, we’ve done a lot of work to make it once you learn the game rules you can predict any card interaction."

VALVE
 

Stygr

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I mean... I'm pretty sure most people get that.

Heh, like there'd actually be a "Black Hero" class with a bunch of variations in anything.
So i don't find the issue, these creeps are already available in Dota 2 and they have a whip.
It's just a coincidence, people are reading too much into this.