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Valve’s Artifact will not have a ranking system, singleplayer content, or chat moderation at launch
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I can't imagine leaving chat on in any game, so that's fine by me.
Odd how the article suggests F2P is possible, when Valve has said on record it's not coming (thankfully).
They also said there is no ranked ladder ever in this game, but instead tournies because they don't want "an endless grind."
Odd how the article suggests F2P is possible, when Valve has said on record it's not coming (thankfully).
They also said there is no ranked ladder ever in this game, but instead tournies because they don't want "an endless grind."
I'm still probably in, but man this feels like it's gonna be extremely bare bones even with Valve only focusing on one platform at launch.
Just what would i do without your infinite depths of knowledge mifi-chan
People getting pissed and insulting the other person? What a weird reasoning, but I guess saying we didn't have the time to implement it is bad PR.
Live an unfulfilling life?
Also we gonna artifact it when the game is out, my waifu PA will destroy your filthy deck.
in-game chess clock removes the need for this - if their timer runs out, they lose
To have conversation with your opponent?
That's no fair when best waifu broodmother isn't even in the game at launch.
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I suspect the game has a very small team, and that's all they have resources for.
It seems they're really trying to model it after a physical card game. One interview I saw said they want people to play with friends rather than randos, plus they want to avoid a need to grind, and I imagine that's why they aren't having rankings.
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Do we know if there is non friend based matchmaking?
Don't really care about the other two, but no ranked seems strange.
I guess if the rumours about it having weekly tournaments or whatever are true, there's no real need for it, though.
I guess if the rumours about it having weekly tournaments or whatever are true, there's no real need for it, though.
So you can scream "I believe in the heart of the cards!" everytime you do anything at the game.
https://www.artifactbuff.com/cards
€: Looks like more had aleady been confirmed
https://artifactwiki.com/wiki/Heroes
I'd say the reason other CCG's feel so grindy are their reward systems much more so than a ranking systems.
Don't see anything grindy about a mode that would evaluate your skill somewhat, purely for novelty.
It's 20$
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weird that someone who's never interacted with a gamer before is making decisions lol
Yeah, I remember that they want "progression" or whatever be through tournaments. One of the reasons they gave was something like
"With a MMR/ranked system, the best decks to use are the ones that end the game as fast as possible, instead of the one with higher winrate. A deck that can win 55% of games in 3 minutes ends up being better than one that wins 60% of games in 10 minutes". And it makes some sense, as it's like people are grinding away.
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A lot of the rest of the interview is about how they don't think like tournaments or "serious gaming" is appropriate for most of the audience, so I suspect that doesn't exist.
whenever they get around to those weekly tournies, that'll be dope. i def prefer mario tennis style online tournies to HS style ranked ladder
yeah - that + f2p rewards means the meta revolves around quickest to 51%
That stuff isn't appropriate for "most of the audience" for most games, though.
It would be colossally stupid (imo) to not have any sort of built in systems for competition. Especially considering how wildly popular competitive gaming has been for their other two flagship games.
I think people are in for a rude awakening with Artifact. People in 2018 are really not used to a MP only game that has zero player agency (no daily carrot to grind, no daily quest, no rank points to farm, just the game to play).
I think people will have an internal, hidden MMR though. Like DOTA 2 still has and used to have before they implemented ranked.
Idk, millions of people literally leave their houses every week to enter unseeded MTG tournaments. There's definitely a market for it.
Listing those as examples of "player agency" is somewhat disconcerting.
It's pretty much how you have to built an online game now sadly. Regarding the term itself, not sure if there's a better one, it's how I've seen it referred to in PR speak.
You're right that it won't, but I think these will have very little impact on Artifact's success in the long term.
It is kinda sad that things like these are expected nowadays, that players have this need of being... how do I say it, "psychologically stimulated"(?) to keep playing a game, instead of playing it just for fun. But who knows, DOTA 2 managed to keep being popular from 2011-2014 before it even implemented some kind of "grind"(MMR).
It'll be refreshing to see a game like this trying to maintain its playerbase because of the game itself, not some kind of meta-gaming numbers.
This game is hardly even trying to compete with hearthstone
I think it's possible to have both, but i guess we'll have first to find out how tournaments in Artifact will actually work.
So it's a true online trading card game. That actually pretty nice if you are into that kind of stuff. Your collection has actual value because you can resell cards.
A great to hear that it has a full chat feature.
A great to hear that it has a full chat feature.
I think Valve actually said that they don't directly compete with them, but create are more hardcore, niche experience. There are already enoug Hearthstone clones out there.
I'm sure everyone will be their best selves in the face of a unmoderated open chat in a competitive game.
...I'm sure of it.
...I'm sure of it.
And no other way than spending more money into the game to be able to enjoy more of it's content.
I really wouldn't mind having no carrot to grind because the game I paid for gave me all it's content to do what I want with it.
Not sure what about Artifact makes you think they're trying to compete with Hearthstone.
You get cards with your initial buy and then you can buy booster packs. Just like in a real world Trading Card Game.