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Variety: “‘Game of Thrones’ Cast Calls Final Season Backlash ‘Media-Led Hate Campaign’“
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I'm not really sure what your point is. It's entertainment reporting. They're going to write about whatever is controversial or interesting that has to do with popular media.
Cray is always our news. What news have you been reading lately?
The last one I remember was The Rock trying to spin Baywatch as being targeted by the crooked media
Is there another pop culture property comparable to Game of Thrones atm? Most tv isnt this big and film actors have the luxury of going on press tours before the films released and if it bombs/gets savaged they don't have to be in the public eye again until the press tour for their next movie. Game of Thrones people have a lot of conventions/post- morteum tv stuff to deal with so they have to defend their work for like a solid 6 months after the fact. The closest thing to GoT's is SW and those actors respond more or less the same.
It was a horrible season, but there's so many other things to watch and enjoy that I'm just glad the show is over.
It's also extremely rude that D&D canceled and everyone else had to carry the L for them. Really shows how much they cared about the thing that made them famous. They're perfect for this current JJ Abrahms focused Star Wars world and the shitty mystery box approach to writing and film making though.
It's also extremely rude that D&D canceled and everyone else had to carry the L for them. Really shows how much they cared about the thing that made them famous. They're perfect for this current JJ Abrahms focused Star Wars world and the shitty mystery box approach to writing and film making though.
Basically. I feel like I liked the show/universe as much as anybody and even though that wasn't the best conclusion, this whining from the fanbase was just so cringey to the point that I wouldn't want to even be associated with those people as a fan.
The internet has destroyed people's self awareness.
Yeah, no.
It was bad. Very bad. I am trying to move on but honestly this was one of my favorite TV shows ever so the fact that I was so fucking disappointed by it to the point of actively hating it in the last season MUST mean something right? It was terribly written and no defense force will ever convince me season 8 wasnt "that bad" and the hate is "out of proportion". It was terrible, period.
It was bad. Very bad. I am trying to move on but honestly this was one of my favorite TV shows ever so the fact that I was so fucking disappointed by it to the point of actively hating it in the last season MUST mean something right? It was terribly written and no defense force will ever convince me season 8 wasnt "that bad" and the hate is "out of proportion". It was terrible, period.
Yep, I remember that.
I'd ask for receipts on your claim about Star Wars, but it's irrelevant because the size/popularity of the work in question has nothing to do with what you posted.
The fact of the matter is, most actors never pull this, because most of them find it to be as embarrassing and petulant as we do from the outside looking in. This extends to basically every other art form, too. You can take criticism on board, you can ignore it completely, or you can lash out and do things like this. Most people have the good sense to pick one of the two easier options.
100% agreed. Game of Thrones became a phenomenon precisely because the writing in Seasons 1-4 was so good. Season 8 was utterly abysmal, not only in comparison to the earlier seasons, but also in a vacuum, and I'm confident that if Season 1 had Season 8's quality of storytelling, the show would have never caught on.
They're cowards, but at the same time I'm glad of it. This stink? It's following each of them around for good now. Their careers won't ever be able to escape it, and I don't feel sorry for them one bit for it
Wonder how many of them vote R. Jumping to "fake news/anti-media" is very telling and intentional
Wonder how many of them vote R. Jumping to "fake news/anti-media" is very telling and intentional
Given the writers propensity for injecting racism and sexism into their work on this show, I would say its a very likely chance theyre Republicans
Anyone watching the show through even a slightly critical lens knew that the last 4 seasons were not on the level of the first 4, and season 8 was the worst of the worst, without The Media telling them what to believe. The backlash was definitely stronger for season 8 because it was the end, but it's facetious as fuck to claim it was impossible to come up with a better final season than the one we got. Especially because fans who aren't professional writers paid millions working on the most popular TV show of this generation have come up with ways the final season could have been better.
I get that they want to defend something they worked so hard on for years, but it is annoying that they seem to think so little of fans that any and all criticism is summed up as "nothing was ever going to please you". It's telling that the writers and producers have so far avoided discussing the final season and defending the scripts. And of course, they have the Emmy nominations now to "prove" to us viewers that we just didn't get their genius writing.
I get that they want to defend something they worked so hard on for years, but it is annoying that they seem to think so little of fans that any and all criticism is summed up as "nothing was ever going to please you". It's telling that the writers and producers have so far avoided discussing the final season and defending the scripts. And of course, they have the Emmy nominations now to "prove" to us viewers that we just didn't get their genius writing.
Posts like this are much sadder than anyone complaining about their favorite tv show being destroyed before their eyes.
No, working hard on something doesnt absolve anyone from criticism, but the actors have no control over the criticism being leveled at the show, and they can't comment honestly without tanking their career and possibly violating contracts.
HBO not acknowledging the mass discontent in the fanbase is a message in itself, and maybe not the most diplomatic way to handle an audience that made their show a phenomenon.
In contrast to the Star Wars outcry, which was poisoned by misogyny and childish takes on Luke's storyline, GoT fans are upset for legit reasons that normal people can relate to: great characters met stupid ends, storylines with seven seasons of buildup were abruptly terminated, and even the elements of the finale that did make sense were unearned and inadequately developed.
I'm not going to go to bat for that petition dude's press release fanfic, but I'm also not so simple as to believe that a touch of melodrama discredits the disappointment of hundreds of thousands of individuals.
The thing is in the end trying to get more seasons was playing with fire. Anything could happen; an actor's death, mental breakdown, breaking their contract, anything. What then? It would have been seen as possibly even worst. I'm sure D&D originally really thought they could finish it, but realized they had to trim more than they thought they would have to as they were closing it.
Ultimately the show should have been nine seasons, with 8 and 9 filmed as full seasons like the ones earlier on, one year each, and cut down on whatever it was that made the shooting require two years for less. Season 8 felt like the smallest cheapest GoT season yet.
Ultimately the show should have been nine seasons, with 8 and 9 filmed as full seasons like the ones earlier on, one year each, and cut down on whatever it was that made the shooting require two years for less. Season 8 felt like the smallest cheapest GoT season yet.
Dude come on.
The petition is delusional, the fact he feels disrespected that HBK didn't personally contact him is the evidence... the fan fic the verdict
I don't expect them to, I wouldn't be honest either if I had their careers, I would just keep my opinions to myself. I'd want another big acting job later, the money is nice in that world.
But when actors(or whoever else) blame this on fans or say things like ''it's impossible to please everyone'' when obviously the majority aren't pleased, then it just shows you can't handle criticism or you don't realise how many people don't think it's good.
And some fans being toxic doesn't mean the writing is good all of a sudden. It was badly written, accept it and do better with the prequel show, or burn the whole franchise further into the ground.
Fan led. Media amplified. Overblown. Lost would have been dissolved in a hurricane of it if it had aired now. Seinfeld would have been vaporized. As fans we should understand that we're allowed to discuss it loudly and publicly and distance ourselves from shit like boycotts and petitions and death threats and move on with our lives. It's not even in the top ten worst show endings. Sometimes the ending is doomed by the expectations anyway.
Hey Conleth Hill, I ain't no media, and season 8 (minus episode 2) was not good. If you won't reflect on just how bad, rushed the writing was, maybe you shouldn't be given more major projects.
I'm sorry but the original post is deranged and projecting, Hill said the opposite.
"I think this (petition) is the reality rather (instead of) than a media led-hate campaign"
Sorry! but it's a maddening and personal way to accept disapointment and not just normal criticism.
"I think this (petition) is the reality rather (instead of) than a media led-hate campaign"
The showrunners were being called "spineless cunts" in the other thread, one poster saying he would enjoy them being "jeered" at, being called selfish and frauds, need to be hold accountable (like they should be on trial) because these viewers were acting entitled and didn't get the ending how They wanted it, and maddening logic like when this weird fan was following Coster Waldau about, saying it was showrunners fault, in an bizarre leap of logic.
Sorry! but it's a maddening and personal way to accept disapointment and not just normal criticism.
Funny how one actor on a panel of a half-dozen actors uses the phrase "media-led hate campaign" and the media immediately blames the entire cast and ascribes those ideas to all of them because that makes it much more sensational. It's hard to deny that the media didn't lean in hard to the upset and outrage over the final season. It took them all of a couple hours to come up with a disingenuous headline intended to stoke anger and drive clicks.
If you were going to be a bit more charitable, you have to take into account the context of the discussion, wherein the actor talked about how some of his previous interviews were pulled apart and dissected to make it seem like he was supremely disappointed in shooting the final episodes. It sounded very much like how every apprehensive thing Mark Hamill said about TLJ was immediately turned in to "Mark Hamill hates The Last Jedi."
If you were going to be a bit more charitable, you have to take into account the context of the discussion, wherein the actor talked about how some of his previous interviews were pulled apart and dissected to make it seem like he was supremely disappointed in shooting the final episodes. It sounded very much like how every apprehensive thing Mark Hamill said about TLJ was immediately turned in to "Mark Hamill hates The Last Jedi."
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We don't live in some special era when media entertainment is always perfect and the best quality that it can be. The story telling in the last season wasn't the best quality that it could have been.
That's not what he said. he said all the fans at comic con excited to be there is the reality, not the media led-hate campaign.
In today's times of "fake news" I am very against people blaming the media for everything.
It looks like he's saying they appreciate the fanbase, even with their petition, and it's not a media led-hate campaign. It's worth noting he didn't say 'the media-led hate campaign' he said rather than 'a'. It's making a mountain out of a mole hill.
I get the actors have to defend their production and cant say anything bad about D&D but they should stop making it seem like there was a coordinated campaign to hate the last season when it was one of the most beloved shows of all time prior to it. This just pisses the fans off even more.
Can popular media not just be criticised without people wanting to publicly drag the cast and staff?
You know why
The thing is actors can dislike it, but they can also be proud of it, after all the show (and its quality) is open to opinion. Do you really wish to see their careers be affected because they're not sharing the same opinion as you?
It's absolutely OK to say "Man I hated got season 8, the show was a big part of my life and now I'm super disappointed it ended this way".
But what people in this thread are doing, OP being purposely clickbaity and people only saying "they'll make the writers pay" or calling them name is so embarrassing that I'm more disappointed to be associated with people who like the show than with the ending to the show itself.
And no, one defence stands for that kind of childish, spoiled, entitled behaviour employed by people who can't separate an artwork from an author and who can get militant over a fucking TV show.
But what people in this thread are doing, OP being purposely clickbaity and people only saying "they'll make the writers pay" or calling them name is so embarrassing that I'm more disappointed to be associated with people who like the show than with the ending to the show itself.
And no, one defence stands for that kind of childish, spoiled, entitled behaviour employed by people who can't separate an artwork from an author and who can get militant over a fucking TV show.
Hey OP. I know you hated it going of all the threads you made but hopefully you can let it rest soon. It's time to move on
The hate was waaaay too intense, however, it is the worst season of them all storytelling-wise imo.
It was rushed and you could feel it all the way to the end.
It was rushed and you could feel it all the way to the end.
Did the Americans give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
