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Variety: Utah Man Behind Sony Online Entertainment DoS Attacks Pleads Guilty
- Thread starter ManaByte
- Start date
Weird I didn't cause 100k in damages when I was a stupid 18 year old kid. Really dodged a bullet.
They show empathy at the weirdest times, but then go after someone relentlessly who did nothing.
Like this is a legit crime done on a large scale, there are consequences, how does this need to be explained?
You didn't? its no big deal man being young gives you a freebie to cause massive damage, didn't you know? you missing out.
When the data center went down due to DDoS, what do you think Sony had to do to fix it? Press the big reset button? Or power off and on the router? They had to pay a lot of people to work on it non-stop overtime to resolve the issue and probably buy new hardware too. Not only getting the servers back up and running, but to prevent them from going down again.
60 Million Americans wanted to be dicks 2 years ago. Not that unprecedented.
Plus the costs incurred due to loss of revenue while it was down, bandwidth costs, etc...
Thanks I have a very successful job which has to do with software downtimes for a large hospital.
A lot of kids don't have the means to launch a ddos attack.
How many people do you know that run a large botnet?
Yeah, the summary in OP says there was a plea agreement. I didn't see it mentioned in the article, but I admittedly just skimmed it. I wonder if he has any prior run-ins with the law, too*.
I'll be really interested in seeing how this turns out. Gonna be a few months' wait though, I guess.
edit: *I'm not thinking straight. Multiple attacks on Sony, attack on EA's Origin, Dota 2, and the bomb threat that diverted a plane. Hmmmm…
Oh yay. I have an irrational first-world-problem sort of hate for these kinds of people. Don't mess with my games, yo. Hope they get the neckbeard that's been DDOSing FFXIV lately soon too.
Yeah fuck this guy. It's one thing to just be a dick and take down an online service with a DoS attack, but to call in a bomb threat to an airline?
Not surprised at the "they are rich so it's okay" responses. If it was your property and your money you would care.
I'm actually surprised it's so little. With how much money they must have paid in manpower and overtime to resolve the issue. Then on top of that you have all the lost revenue of people who would have been buying stuff on PSN but couldn't. Honestly 95000 sounds like nothing for that big of an outage.
Gamers: "Gamers should never be punished for fucking up, even if they cause 5 digits of damages"
This coddling of gamers doing harm, making bomb threats and causing property damage seriously needs to stop.
He's not. Maybe he deserves it but to gloat or stealth gloat about it is kind of disgusting. Humans are irrational.
Mob justice man.. scary shit.
Fucking hell, you're the asshole that gave us the MUMPS language aren't you
Should be 50 years so he misses out on a lot of great games and all the advancement achieved in the computer world
Im just glad it didn't really impact the Mindshare Sony had with the people and had absolutely no longterm effects that hurt them in the current Gen.
Im just glad it didn't really impact the Mindshare Sony had with the people and had absolutely no longterm effects that hurt them in the current Gen.
This will be classified as a felony, right?
He'll have one hell of a time trying to find a job.
After potentially being homeless eventually he'll wish his sentence was longer.
Going to jail will be the easy part for him.
He'll have one hell of a time trying to find a job.
After potentially being homeless eventually he'll wish his sentence was longer.
Going to jail will be the easy part for him.
He hasn't been sentenced. I would be shocked if he got anything near the maximum and probably doesn't deserve it, but being 18 is no excuse.
Ah this happened to John Smedley who was on the plane, that group harassed him for a long time.
Yup. Memory serves me right they even sent Smedley photos of his father's tombstone and shit. So messed up.
Yeah, there not just 'kids' there where terrorizing him, they deserve to go to prison there awful human beings.
Yeah these Lizard Squad fucks were more then just harmless kids having a laugh. They went out of their way to go to the Cemetery where John Smedley's father was buried to desecrate the gravestone etc. if anything they are not getting slammed hard enough for all the shit they did
When a service like PSN goes down, everyone who is trying to sell stuff on the PSN loses money, not just Sony. It's never happened to me personally, but a DOS attack hitting at just the right time (like say your launch date or when you're doing a big sale) could lose a small indie team a lot of money and most small indie developers don't have much of a cushion to fall back on.
"He was 18 the law doesn't apply!" - That's not how the law works.
"Punishment too harsh!" - Punishment hasn't been decided yet.
"It's just video games!!" - There was a bomb threat.
"Maybe the bomb threat wasn't actually him!" - Where is this even coming from?
"Numbers inflated!" - You don't know that.
You should leave the gymnastics to Simone Biles because you're not good at this.
You don't need to run a botnet yourself, anyone can rent time on these things if they have the money. Here's an article on one that was taken down recently https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/04/ddos-for-hire-service-webstresser-dismantled/
To build a career.
If these people can actually build their own bot servers and program or have knowledge on security flaws instead of just paying someone for a DOS attack, they will usually be recruited under supervision by law enforcement to reinforce their IT infrastructure.
Yeah.
He might actually have a higher chance of getting a very good career out of this than jail time.
I mean... I left the convo a long time ago.. Lol you guys just keep quoting me
Keep getting notifications. I dont agree with you. End of convo. Have a great day :)
Which part don't you agree with - that the law should apply to him, that implying he wasn't involved in the bomb threat doesn't make sense, or that you're not as good as Simone Biles?
Doubt he will get the maximum sentence, if he is already pleading guilty. Maybe like 30% - 50% of that and that is good enough, really. I'm all for giving people a second chance, if it wasn't a violent crime. Sure, the bomb hoax on a plane thing is absolutely terrible and definitely should be punished harsher, but the server damages are likely covered by an insurance anyways, so the punishment for those doesn't have to be the maximum, but it obviously should still be punished.
Absolutely fine with him being under a 3 year supervision. It either means that he will change or it means that he will fall back into his old patterns and will be caught again. Because, lets face it... These people are clearly not as professional as they think they are.
Absolutely fine with him being under a 3 year supervision. It either means that he will change or it means that he will fall back into his old patterns and will be caught again. Because, lets face it... These people are clearly not as professional as they think they are.
I dunno who simon biles is, nor do i care. You seem like the type who needs to be heard. I'm sorry.
Honestly, just forcing him to pay back what he caused in damages is fair enough. $95k at his age will take years to pay back, maybe even a decade.