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If they're not confirming platform exclusivity... What exactly are they confirming? "Every Bethesda Game On Game Pass" felt like the initial announcement when the merger was made public. Just reiterating that point seems... pointless?
I think MS will be quite clear. if you want to play Bethesda games you will need an Xbox / Gamepass or a PC / Gamepass / Steam.
I really hope they are this clear one way or another. Rip the bandaid off now, let the riots play out this week, that way when they show off Starfield in June people will have cooled off and can instead focus on how the game looks
I think there may be conditional deals like the Indiana Jones game where it will have to be on PS5
I think it is best people accept that the worst is happening and they won't come to PS anymore. That way nobody will be disappointed.
Exactly, they are trying to turn this into a event , but this is just normal business as usual.
It has and will always be like this for MS. My favorite from recent memory is, "Is Gamepass profitable? Is it sustainable?"
Spencer - "Just STFU, let us worry about sustainability, and play games."
Lol they're not doing this to solve confusion, they're doing this to generate publicity. Literally 0% of the reason for this is to answer that question, it's purely a PR thing
I don't think it'll be for the likes of us. The folks that want the inside scoop and the gritty, boring business deals.
It'll be for your everyday gamer who might not even know the name 'Bethesda' or 'id' or 'Machinegames'. It'll probably just be saying "hey, you know Skyrim and Doom and Quake and Fallout and Wolfenstein and Dishonored etc? They're now all under Xbox Game Studios and the new ones will be coming to Game Pass so please subscribe if you haven't."
At a guess. I imagine it'll be a whirlwind tour of what the various Zenimax devs make and what that means for Xbox/Game Pass.
Even if the came out and said all Bethesda games will only come out for Xbox/PC, there'd still be people arguing about how they would release on PS5 as well.
Dishonored 1 (D2 is)
Fallout 3 and 4 (76 and New Vegas are)
Doom 2016 (Eternal is)
Wolfenstein 1 and 2 (Youngblood is)
Morrowind and Oblivion (Skyrim and ESO are)
Evil Within 1 and 2
Prey
Maybe others. So quite a few.
My guess; they don't say anything until after Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo are out.
Saying "all Bethesda games are exclusive to Xbox (except these two which are actually not on Xbox at all, yet, but will be later)" is such a weird, mixed message. Its so much easier for them to put out the statement a year from now that all games going forward will be Xbox-exclusive, and tie that into the big reveal of Starfield or something.
Saying "all Bethesda games are exclusive to Xbox (except these two which are actually not on Xbox at all, yet, but will be later)" is such a weird, mixed message. Its so much easier for them to put out the statement a year from now that all games going forward will be Xbox-exclusive, and tie that into the big reveal of Starfield or something.
Agreed, I really don't get how there's been so much debate around it. You don't slap down that amount of cash and keep it multiplatform. It's a straight up power play getting all those games as exclusives (bar previously announced titles). If they put TES6 multiplatform, why wouldn't they do the same with Halo Infinite? The answer is they wouldn't.
I don't expect and clear answers. I think they will only announce platforms for games individually as they are announced. I hope I am wrong.
From XBO gen stuff only:
Wolfenstein: The New Order
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood
Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus
Doom (2016)
Fallout 4
The Evil Within
The Evil Within 2
Dishonored: Definitive Edition
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider
Prey (2017)
I guess gamepass will look even better when all these are added there on Thursday.
Ghostwire doesn't even have a hard release date, it's set to release on ''Fall 2021'' If I recall correctly, it would be a long wait for both MS and us if they want this game to release first to give any definitive statement.
One thing I'm interested in to see if MS gets around their Ghost Wire / Deathloop exclusivity windows with PlayStation.
Either through a deal, ignoring the contract and paying a penalty, or releasing a Deathloop: Enhanced Edition with like a legally distinct title.
Either through a deal, ignoring the contract and paying a penalty, or releasing a Deathloop: Enhanced Edition with like a legally distinct title.
- The Evil Within (never joined)
- The Evil Within 2 (never joined)
- DOOM 2016
- Prey
- Fallout 3
- Fallout 4
- Wolfenstein The New Order
- Wolfenstein The New Colossus
- Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (never joined)
- Dishonored Definitive Edition (never joined)
- Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (never joined)
- Oblivion
- Morrowind (maybe, it's a OG Xbox game) (never joined)
- RAGE (never joined I believe)
- maybe Quake Champions on PC (never joined)
- DOOM 3 (maybe they can add 1 and 2 too) (never joined)
Currently on the Game Pass:
- Fallout 76
- Fallout: New Vegas (Obsidian)
- Skyrim
- Dishonored 2
- The Elder Scrolls Online
- DOOM Eternal
- Wolfenstein: Youngblood
Not backward-compatible:
- Quake 4
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October 2021 to be exact from the removed text in that Sony CES video. I assume they'll start taking preorders for it after the PS Summer Showcase.
