God, I've never played FFX before and was thinking of picking it up on Switch. This has completely put me off that now, that is just awful. Bleh!ps2
HD """"remaster""""
What makes you think they give a fuck ?
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VG24/7 - FF9 releases on Switch/XB1 with three-year-old bugs. What will it take for Square to stop releasing bad HD do-overs?
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Just remembered another odd issue with the Switch version of WOFFM; there's this weird audio bug where sometimes Lann makes grunts in cutscenes (like outside of the cafe at the beginning) and it's unusually loud. This seems to still be the case in the 1.01 update. Not game-breaking and I think it was one of the only places this happens going by a quick look at the video above.
Any other patches would be very welcome if it fixes that, and any graphical oddities (like the missing tree shadows if that is doable).
Well that's not quite true. FF9s battle UIs we're updated due to complaints. I think it's worth a go.
The problem is less about how much of a fuck was given and more about budget and management.ps2
HD """"remaster""""
What makes you think they give a fuck ?
Started playing tonight and while I'm OK with the new font, I am NOT okay with this limited 8-way directional movement for analog. True analog movement in the original PS1 version was fantastic and it's been horribly omitted here. Really hope this is patchable because I'm really disappointed and feeling buyer's remorse :(
Realistically if it's a case of selling 500,000 with a bare-bones port that takes 10 minutes, vs 600,000 for an extensive do-over that costs significant money, the former just makes more business sense.
I presume that's the kind of logic operating here at SE.
I presume that's the kind of logic operating here at SE.
The only perfect FF remaster between X/X-2, IX and XII is just XII. The others have some issues here and there.
FF XII remaster adds International Zodiac Job System, that never reached West, while also being graphically much more nice. They also fixed Vaan's abs texture.
Added a new reorchestrated soundtrack with the option to choose original soundtrack.
Improvements to audio quality and choice between English and Japanese dub.
Everyone should buy FF XII remaster, because not only it's the remaster of one of the best FF out there, it's also a great remaster.
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I think this has a lot to do with the company contracted to actually do the port, the details of what that contract looks like, and the payment scheme.
What mini game is unplayable? Jump rope cause that was unplayable even without input lag :V
I hate to be a line crosser, but I can live with looping music and no analog controls. They should be patched but it's not a deal breaking issue for me.
Also doesn't this version drastically reduce the load times and speed up gameplay? I think that's a much bigger issue that was fixed.
So I stick with that one?
Cool.
Was gonna switch for better textures and a platform with a bigger backlog but if its that bad...
I think they mean jump rope which somehow (and it amazed me) is even more unplayable than before! i could usually do around 50 with 'some' effort and once i had the "patience" to actually do a hundred as a kid before saying screw it gamegenie! the only time since then was on the PC when i just put a macro on my mouse and let it auto win..........but the switch version? my best even when really really genuinely trying was...........8, i'd honestly like the option to just buy the card off them for the HD remake since its got cheats in
To be fair, even that game, iirc, was a dumpster fire degree of garbage at release, was it not? So, the only difference there is something was actually done about the release after they shoved it out in a horrible condition.
I have actually emailed Square Enix.
Nothing is guaranteed, but it IS worth reaching out to them. They fixed Chrono Trigger, AND FFIX - despite still having major bugs - was vastly had its UI improved from the original release and shrunk down so it didn't take up so much space on-screen. They've applied fixes before, so stay vocal.
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I emailed them informing them about the soundtrack bug, the loss of analog control, and the input delay. There are still OTHER issues - like the new font, the mobile platform carryovers (why are you bringing up emojis, game?), and the subpar background filtering, but the game should at the very least play and sound as good as the original version without excuse.
Precisely. It only takes a quick minute to send them a direct message. We spend more time complaining about the game on sites away from their ears.
And, again, they HAVE listened sporadically in the past. Fingers crossed.
Damn, I had noticed some problems like the analogue controls and ugly UI/font. But I hadn't noticed the music bug and the few reviews I checked out before purchasing mentioned none of these issues.
Feeling that buyers remorse now, but I've wanted to check out FF9 for years and thought the Switch version was the ideal platform for me :(
Feeling that buyers remorse now, but I've wanted to check out FF9 for years and thought the Switch version was the ideal platform for me :(
But if I'm Square I can just as easily say "it sold well so things must be great!"
The game is still absolutely playable and still a masterpiece, play it :)
I was gonna quadruple dip (psone discs, psone download, PS4 and then switch) but ya know... $27cdn for the same annoying problems, the same ugly cell phone game interface, the unplayable 3x speed boost that is a pain to turn on and off. Blah.
I skipped it and just started playing it on Vita/PS3 and it's been great. I got used to the slow battles and am just enjoying it.
Square did such a great job with FFXII that it sucks they won't put the same effort into their older games
I skipped it and just started playing it on Vita/PS3 and it's been great. I got used to the slow battles and am just enjoying it.
Square did such a great job with FFXII that it sucks they won't put the same effort into their older games
And let's not forget what they did to FFVI when they finally deigned to give it an updated release. Gross.
The greatest game of all time was treated like an App Store knock-off. Square Enix deserves to lose custody of their games for this.
Personally, I would rather a lazy port than no port at all. I wish more companies would port there games as often as Sqeenix does.
I want every game ever made ported, even the bad ones.
Let's get real though. Outside the bubble, no one cares. These ports are perfectly adequate to the vast majority of people.
I want every game ever made ported, even the bad ones.
Let's get real though. Outside the bubble, no one cares. These ports are perfectly adequate to the vast majority of people.
I have it on steam and didnt know about the muisc bug, becuase i still havent gone into a dungeon. That and the low quality backgrounds are/will bother me (and know I understand why I found bothersome the "running pressing B thing", I thought it was the same in the original but I see that was not the case), but i love how crisp everything looks apart from the backgrounds, I finally can discern that nearly every NPC in the game has wildly different designs with the new models with retextures, when i played in its hayday you could only see a bucnh of coloured pixels with the NPCs that were far from the camera.
I would have absolutely loved a full redrawn of the background in 1080p making the game all crisp and finally 16:9, but I knew sqaure enix will never do that sadly.
I would have absolutely loved a full redrawn of the background in 1080p making the game all crisp and finally 16:9, but I knew sqaure enix will never do that sadly.
This is minor nitpick next to the much more egregious bugs, but I hate how little personality the text font has now. FF9's text was probably my favorite in the series and it's boring-ass Arial or something now. I would vastly prefer the original PS1 discs with no upscaling and a scanline filter to the half-assed up-rezz we got instead.
Different port teams, different budgets, different scopes, etc. etc.
With that said, I sent an inquiry to Square Enix support highlighting the issues I have with the port (8-way analog movement rather than full 360 control, environmental music resets after battle, fast-forward toggle is hidden in a pause menu rather than mapped to a button). I encourage other people to do the same:
EDIT: Got a response, apparently this Switch release was handled / published by Nintendo, so they're gonna have to be the ones that need to be contacted for Support: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/index.jsp
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What? Hearing the same and only 10 seconds of every music is much worse than an arial font on a freaking text box.
I must be the only one who doesn't mind the new font. The old one was so low res that it doesn't look all that different from the new one.
I mean, I said in the very first clause of my post it is a minor nitpick.
Topics like this are a bit frustrating to me since people often ignore or give passes to other re-releases. For example, last year Capcom re-released DMC HD Collection, this time despite fixing DMC3HD's past issues, DMC1 had lots of new issues. And the collection as a whole had worse performance on PC than vanilla DMC4 and even the bad old port of DMC3SE. I can't even play DMC3HD, while broken-ass DMC3SE PC runs okay through bruteforcing and is at least playable. But the criticisms of the collection re-release came largely from a small group of DMC fans. And very little happened. To this day I haven't played more than a minute of DMC3HD on PC. I feel like when articles like this happen, it's usually too little, too late.
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FF VI looks like shit, it's pretty crazy to me.
From what I heard, it sounds like shit compared to the OG one.
From what I heard, it sounds like shit compared to the OG one.
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The worst part was some people were actually defending this artstyle. "It looks better on a phone screen" etc.
LOL.
Is it possible to do that on Switch? Its moddable on PC (Steam).
I read it wrong, sorry. Thought you were calling the music bug as a nitpick and the font change a bigger issue.
As close as you're going to get to 'hd' backgrounds, I recommend trying this for the pc version you have: https://steamcommunity.com/app/377840/discussions/0/1741105805743188237/
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I want to play FFIX on Switch (it'd be my first time!), but hearing about the bugs really stopped me in my tracks.
Unless they fix it (they won't), FF7 also has the music bug and some other issues like the wrong music playing in certain scenes.