Man, chrono cross was always one of my absolute favorites as a kid. Such strong memories of this game, actually liked it better than trigger, much to the shock and dismay of my buddies, but I attribute that mostly to playing it first, and then playing trigger years later, so that probably had a huge impact. Honestly, even just a ff8 level remaster would be awesome, and in all likely hood is what is most probable. I really hope this ends up being true. Tried going back to the ps1 game a few years back and it was pretty tough.
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(VGC) The upcoming "big PlayStation remake" is reportedly a Chrono Cross remaster
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Ok nice, as the more I think about this the more I want it to just be a remaster and not a remake.
there isn't an exact science, unfortunately. We just have to weigh all aspects of a rerelease and compare them to those of its original release, and, from that, gauge if the improvements to the rerelease were enough to warrant the label remaster. It's not quantifiable, so I can't say "this is the threshold beyond which all rereleases can use the term 'remaster'". But what I do know, is that, in my book, Dark Souls Remastered does not meet that threshold.
- A game is ported with respect to its source code and target platform.
- A port may have performance adjustments that result in better or worse visuals.
- A game is remastered with respect to its assets.
- A remaster may look better, worse, different, or the same as its original counterpart.
- A remaster is usually a port.
- A game is remade with respect to its conceptual design.
- A remake may play different or the same as its original counterpart.
- A remake may look better, worse, different or the same as its original counterpart.
- A remake is usually not a port.
- A rerelease to a new platform that is not achieved through emulation and is not a remake is inherently a port, and may also be a remaster.
- Any rerelease, be it a port, a remaster, a remake or an emulation, may include new content, exclude content, or be exactly the same as its original counterpart.
To me a remaster is when you take the original game and make it look as good as it possibly can in its original form. High definition rendering resolution, texture filtering, integer scaled 2D elements, redrawn stuff here and there.
It's like how Blade Runner Definitive Cut took the original movie, shuffled some scenes around, fixed the special effects goofs (visible wires) then spit it out in 1080p.
Something like OOT 3D straddles the line since it's the original game with a significant graphical overhaul. It's still the N64 original running under the hood though.
It's like how Blade Runner Definitive Cut took the original movie, shuffled some scenes around, fixed the special effects goofs (visible wires) then spit it out in 1080p.
Something like OOT 3D straddles the line since it's the original game with a significant graphical overhaul. It's still the N64 original running under the hood though.
Remaster: an ambitious port that updates aspects of the original game and cleans it up. Can have new music, assets, QoL features added to it, etc. but at it's core, it is that original game. It's, on an financial level, a smarter thing to go at when bringing a game to a newer audience but not wanting to just port it.
Example: Xenoblade Definitive Edition, Alan Wake Remastered and GTA 3 Trilogy which just released (in a poor state)
Remake: a game that is much more ambitious than a remaster, in that it can be as faithful to the original or as ambitious as possible. It is a completely different game from the original and more of a copycat of the original to varying degrees. The overall concepts, philosophy, plot, etc is recreated in this other game. The scope of that recreation is up to the developer. A game can attempt to be like the original or take liberties and add extra or take away something from the original source, but still follow the original plot in the overarching way.
Example: RE2 Remake, Shadow of the Colossus, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond.
Retellings fall under or are extension of Remake, except they just have the same characters and settings but the plot is not really like the original, this is what Final Fantasy 7 RE is.
That's *my* definition of course. Neither are bad.
Developers go about it their own way of how they want to do remakes and remasters. Nintendo is more faithful with their remakes, as to not alter a title away from the source. Square Enix was ambitious with its remake of 7, not really sticking to the original.
granted the original couldn't be stuck to really considering how ancient it was. :p
Example: Xenoblade Definitive Edition, Alan Wake Remastered and GTA 3 Trilogy which just released (in a poor state)
Remake: a game that is much more ambitious than a remaster, in that it can be as faithful to the original or as ambitious as possible. It is a completely different game from the original and more of a copycat of the original to varying degrees. The overall concepts, philosophy, plot, etc is recreated in this other game. The scope of that recreation is up to the developer. A game can attempt to be like the original or take liberties and add extra or take away something from the original source, but still follow the original plot in the overarching way.
Example: RE2 Remake, Shadow of the Colossus, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond.
Retellings fall under or are extension of Remake, except they just have the same characters and settings but the plot is not really like the original, this is what Final Fantasy 7 RE is.
That's *my* definition of course. Neither are bad.
Developers go about it their own way of how they want to do remakes and remasters. Nintendo is more faithful with their remakes, as to not alter a title away from the source. Square Enix was ambitious with its remake of 7, not really sticking to the original.
granted the original couldn't be stuck to really considering how ancient it was. :p
Been wondering about something since this was posted. It looks like Chrono Cross Remaster is likely true (nvidia leak, being validated by gaming journalists etc).
That aside, what are the odds that someone actually got confirmation that the song that Irish singer was referring to was Chrono Cross? I'd think this information would be fairly hard to get a hold of and you'd need some sort of connection with the musicians working for the game.
Do you think it was actually confirmed the singer's game is related or that someone just made an assumption based on some of the similarities between the two reports/leaks?
That aside, what are the odds that someone actually got confirmation that the song that Irish singer was referring to was Chrono Cross? I'd think this information would be fairly hard to get a hold of and you'd need some sort of connection with the musicians working for the game.
Do you think it was actually confirmed the singer's game is related or that someone just made an assumption based on some of the similarities between the two reports/leaks?
It may end up being a remake
From those quotes it's definitely a Trials of Mana remake rather than an FFVII Remake.
Who is NateDrake?
I don't wanna speak for them, but from my time at Era they seem a trustworthy insider that often hear about stuff before coming out.
Personally, i'd vouch for their info.
I know why.... its because Cross is a highly rated game and deserves 1 shot where Trigger already got a few. Both of which are very good games.
You are right, very trustworthy. Doesn't speak riddles or make vague comments like a lot of insiders, just pops up every now and then with some news and that is it. He is up there for reliability.
Chrono has gotten a few "enchanced" ports, no remake yet. This ain't Final Fantasy IV.
"Fairly certain Chrono Cross is a remake. Not a remaster."
What's unclear about this quote lol?
We don't deserve it.
I'm assuming it's a remake. I don't think the games mechanics have aged that well compared to FF games. But I'm excited either way.
Based on what Nate said, a Trials of Mama remake. He said it wasn't big budget.
I think this is what it took for me to finally figure out how to properly fold a shirt.
If its like trials of mana they'll have a remastered OST and option to switch back to original OST.
Cooking Mama got hardcore huh. Can't wait.
(in all seriousness, Cross deserves a Trials of Mana remake more than Trigger. Something like Pixel remaster is perfect for Trigger).
I don't want to link it as they might be problematic sites, but you can see the headlines when googling "chrono cross remake".
Their deal with SE was to develop multiple remakes for a single IP, so Chrono doesn't seem like a fit:
Square Enix taps Forever Entertainment for remakes
Square Enix has signed a deal with Forever Entertainment to remake some of its catalog titles.The studio today confirme…
www.gamesindustry.biz
Getting more than 50% of revenue also makes it seem like a lower priority SE IP? Their last game with SE was Fear Effect Sedna.
Mmh, unless they're also doing Trigger, and/or Radical DreamersTheir deal with SE was to develop multiple remakes for a single IP, so Chrono doesn't seem like a fit:
Square Enix taps Forever Entertainment for remakes
Square Enix has signed a deal with Forever Entertainment to remake some of its catalog titles.The studio today confirme…
That would be great and the best outcome.
I guess I still have PTSD when I think about how Square butchered FFX Remaster soundtrack.
I know, and I trust he will do a great job.
What I meant is remastered soundtracks (as most things remastered, really) often end up being worse than the original counterpart.
As for Hamauzu, in retrospect it's kind of a miracle FFVIIR OST turned as good as it did.
But that's another topic.
Interesting... Uematsu's recent works have been pretty subpar in general but many people don't want to admit it...
Ehh I disagree. The Pixel Remaster soundtracks have all been stellar.
Who did "Fight with Seymour"?
That's by far the biggest stinker.
I was so pissed when I first listened to it.
Where can we see who composed specific tracks? It's not listed in the game credits, as far as I've seen.
SQEX-20015 | FINAL FANTASY X HD Remaster Original Soundtrack - VGMdb
Commercial (Blu-ray) published by SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. on Dec 25, 2013 containing original soundtrack, arrangement, vocal from Final Fantasy X HD Remaster, FINAL FANTASY X-2
you need to check arrangers as they're the ones that did the remaster. Composer is just who did the original melody or who did the original track in 2001
Their deal with SE was to develop multiple remakes for a single IP, so Chrono doesn't seem like a fit:
Square Enix taps Forever Entertainment for remakes
Square Enix has signed a deal with Forever Entertainment to remake some of its catalog titles.The studio today confirme…
Getting more than 50% of revenue also makes it seem like a lower priority SE IP? Their last game with SE was Fear Effect Sedna.
For what it's worth, a producer working at a Forever owned company has been Tweeting about Chrono Cross recently. He was also asked about it directly, but only responded with some coy GIFs. Although I got the impression the Forever deal was announced pretty much as soon as it was signed, so it seems odd they'd be announcing a remake of any kind in such a short time if they are indeed working on it.
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thanksSQEX-20015 | FINAL FANTASY X HD Remaster Original Soundtrack - VGMdb
Commercial (Blu-ray) published by SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. on Dec 25, 2013 containing original soundtrack, arrangement, vocal from Final Fantasy X HD Remaster, FINAL FANTASY X-2vgmdb.net
you need to check arrangers as they're the ones that did the remaster. Composer is just who did the original melody or who did the original track in 2001
Chrono Cross is my favorite JRPG of all time, I was already happy with the rumors of a remaster, now I'm even happier knowing it could be a remake, even if it's in the same lines as Trials of Mana (another favorite of mine).
Am I reading this right?
Fight With Seymour is so fucking hype 😭