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VGTech: Resident Evil 2 Demo Framerate Comparison
- Thread starter MauroNL
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So will RE2. The softness in RE2 has nothing to do with performance. It's entirely down to it's TAA implementation...RE7 was the exact same so I'm not sure why people were expecting it to be any different with RE2, especially since you could see the heavy TAA and post processing in the gameplay footage itself.
While TAA naturally causes some blur, it's the implementation that matters. Gears 4 uses TAA as well and it's one of the sharpest games I've played this gen because UE4 has a very good TAA solution in general.
Yea basically you need a really high resolution these days to overcome the softness that comes from this fucking temporal AA that every developer seems to love these days.
Red Dead Redemption 2 spoiled me with that crisp and clean 4K image.
I think I will just buy it on Steam then for the G-sync, it's a shame because I would've preferred to play it on the big screen.
I don't know what's so good in UE4 taa, its also very blurry. But Gears 4 has sharpening filter which helps a little, but still not ideal (and Reshade Adaptive Sharpening filter helps with RE7 š)
Well UE4's TAA is good at eliminating pixel crawl, RE2/RE7 is the same but it's noticeable a bit blurrier than Gears. A sharpen filter I feel is pretty much needed when using TAA. I always use lumasharpen when I can, although I doubt it'll make RE2 as crisp as Gears 4 even with sharpening. Unless I use adaptive sharpening which I never liked because I find it to cause some artifacts in some games due to how strong it is.
At least we still have the resolution mode to look forward to. That should come close to RDR2 I think.
PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Yea fuck getting in on the Xbox, I'll play on PC where we can toggle this stupid shit off.PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Why do developers do this, is there absolutely fucking no one on the entire staff that just says "wait hold the fuck up, is this actually a good idea".
The PC version is actually a good case of why TAA works, playing it on anything but TAA will make everything look noisy/shimmery all over. TAA works, they just need to sharpen it up a bit or add a sharpness toggle for the player.
Been locked in on PS4 Pro since announce, but that's owing largely to me having bought and played all the other RE releases on PS4 this generation. It's one of my favorite series, and I wanted to keep it all on one platform (and have all the discs collected together -- I'm digital-only on XB1X), because I'm strange like that. I'll grab it again on my X on sale in the future, but probably not until it's going down to around $20 for the Deluxe Edition, so I imagine that's a couple years down the road at least. I hope the final version takes advantage of the X a lot better, and I do acknowledge that this demo build is far from final -- I'm guessing it's really just the playable E3 build with the 30 minute timer and online-connection-DRM added on.
PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Christ that looks awful on Xbox.
The blur on the XBX version is awful. It's even worse than the blur on RDR2 on Pro compared to the XBX version. Maybe they thought the XBX had enough grunt to use TXAA but it's not a good solution particularly combined with Chromatic aberration, vignetting and film grain.PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
It's really odd that Digital Foundry still didn't make an article about it (they didn't wait one second to make an article about the blur on the infamous RDR2 Pro version). Maybe they are waiting for the release build to see if the devs remove the heavy blur on XBX ?
NXGamer just put up a video
Can a mod please add this to the OP and change title as something general like Resident Evil 2 Demo Performance Analysis VGTech/NXGamer ?
PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Just cancelled my Xbox One pre-order due to this. If the final release is less blurry then I'll go for it but if not I'll just wait until I get a PC to play that version.
Guys don't forget this is performance mode though. Resolution mode will obviously look a lot better. But it definitely sucks for the performance mode players.
But is it true that the aliasing is significantly worse compared to X? I'm not sure which one I would choose if I had both Pro and X. I hate aliasing but a soft image isn't exactly great. Although if you up your TV sharpness you can get it to look crisper.
For some reason Chandoog's image aren't loading here. It's all empty for me.
But is it true that the aliasing is significantly worse compared to X? I'm not sure which one I would choose if I had both Pro and X. I hate aliasing but a soft image isn't exactly great. Although if you up your TV sharpness you can get it to look crisper.
For some reason Chandoog's image aren't loading here. It's all empty for me.
The green filter also seems more prominent on the XBX compared to pro:
They're all hosted on abload.de, do images from that domain normally don't work ?
They're all hosted on abload.de, do images from that domain normally don't work ?
Deciding between PS4 Pro and PC. My PC isn't good enough to max it out, gonna try the demo on both to help me decide where to get it.
TAA is great, primarily because it cleans up a lot of jaggies and maintains a smooth image. While the blur can be strong, I find it preferable to the alternative. And even then, you can use ReShade to counter the blur with lumasharpen. Used it in RE7, and it was a notable improvement.
They should at least put in the option to cap it, because I completely disagree with you, it's awful.
1080p/50 is only suitable if you're running on a 50hz display. Locked 50 FPS on a 60hz display will cause a lot of judder and make it really annoying to play. Locked 50 FPS on a 50hz display though, will look and play extremely smoothly, just about as good as locked 60 on a 60hz display.
One X version should reach 1800p by launch. This is where I'll play if it they fix the image quality.
30 minute raw-play of the XB1X version. Clarity seemed solid, and especially seeing a comment on the image supposedly having a higher green value, I'm wondering if the captures in the OP have some unrelated settings influencing them.
21:28 has my footage of the window approach shown in this post, and I'm not seeing what that still seems to be showing re: the green tint. It's possible this is down to display calibration.
21:28 has my footage of the window approach shown in this post, and I'm not seeing what that still seems to be showing re: the green tint. It's possible this is down to display calibration.
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I really hope the final version is much more polished, there were many inconsistencies. But the potential is grand! Lack of polish would be really jarring on a game like Resident Evil 2. I have waited so long for this game, I could have waited even longer if helped polish things up. But we will see, the built is really really old. Man I cannot believe we are getting REmake 2 in two weeks.... HYPE!
it's so sick that AAA devs are aiming for 60fps nowadays AND also making visually impressive games, next-gen is gonna be sweet
godspeed 30fps
godspeed 30fps
Did you turn off the film noise option on the console version?
I tried both the XB1X and PS4 Pro versions of the demo and while they both generally look about the same the noise my PS4 Pro creates during gameplay and even the title screen is ludicrous. Def going with the XB1X version because that machine stays whisper quiet even during intense action. I want to experience the audio of the game not a jet engine in the background about to lift off.
PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
Could this be because XBX version uses less detailed assets due to the base XBO build compromises?
Why are people constantly saying that the demo is an old build ? Do we have an indication for that to be true ?
PS4 Pro version looks and performs incredible for anyone who can't or doesn't have a capable PC of running this.
Also, while things *may* change in the final game, for this demo, the TAA in the XBX version is really heavy and makes it look a worse compared to the Pro version in terms of IQ/Clarity.
Pro to the left XBX to the right.
Pro above, XBX below:
What the heck is going on with the X version? It should be at least on par with the Pro in asset quality if not exceed it.
Something tells me that the X patch is not present on the demo so it's not using the higher quality assets. That's just a guess though, not sure if that's been confirmed or not.
I think it's time for Sony to step up their firmware. 50 fps with Freesync is amazing.
NXGamer put out a detailed analysis and they didn''t mention anything like difference in asset/texture quality.
Wasn't there a debug trick to see if a game is Scorpio enhanced on the XBX's dash ? can someone check that please ?
For someone who doesn't have a Gsync/Freesync device, on PC (if you have a supported monitor) 50hz gaming is also pretty great. If your game cannot maintain a solid 60 but you don't want to make visual compromises, 1080p/50 feels neigh indistinguishable and gives your CPU/GPU more breathing room.
The only real indication is that it's the same chunk from the E3 show floor.
Though to counter that, the safe and padlock codes have been changed from E3, so it could very well be a chunk from the final game .. which is just 12 days away.
I noticed you mentioned blacks, so do you have an HDR set ? HDR only look good on the room where the cop gets torn in half before you obtain he's note book.
Is the HDR in this good enough to pass on a PC version? My pc is great but my monitor doesn't support HDR.
Edit: sounds like it is
Edit: sounds like it is
Not really, the game on pc at native 4k still has this problem regardless of the AA method used.