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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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The likelihood is that he'll be the only clear winner once all the stupidity is over.
Vic is 99% going to lose his case, Beard embarrasses himself and given his lack of knowledge, may accidentally breach a code of conduct somewhere along the way. The general opinion among the US based lawyers is that Blackface's state doesn't really have any professional codes of conduct that he's in breach of. In some ways, it wouldn't matter even if he did get disbarred. He might be a terrible lawyer, but he's clearly skilled as an outrage merchant, which will likely be his real job going forward
First of all he conceded he was a public figure which means you have to prove actual malice. Actual malice is a very difficult thing to prove because you need clear and convincing evidence about what the defendant was thinking not what a reasonable person believes.
The second thing is he conceded that the defendants were just a small part of a larger backlash:
That's pretty much any competent defamation lawyer watching his client's case go right out the fucking window. When you're pointing fingers you don't say it's a result of all these little things. You're alleging that the defendant's specific knowingly reckless and malicious conduct is the cause of the situation. This basically contradicts that entire argument.
That's been his job since before Vic, it's just that the last outrage he was on didn't gain much traction.
Ahh alright. I've never watched his stuff and wasn't sure if he actually ran a law explainer at any point or was always on the outrage train
He does those too, though I imagine those videos are full of errors.
He was one of the people that was pushing the wet fart known as ComicsGate.
Regarding the first point, it's particularly amusing to see because his lawyers are currently very much trying to move away from him being seen as a public figure. There's no way he can get away with claiming that to begin with, of course. But this deposition now includes, for example, him talking about how conventions work and how he's special enough to get re-invited several years in a row at times even when that's not the norm. It was probably the one thing Beard actually prepped him for, and he still failed to handle it well!
And adding to the second point, he also constantly admitted he has no idea whether the defendants actually had anything to do with conventions canceling him and such. Really doubling down on "it is completely arbitrary that I sued them over this".
Oh and having no idea how much he was suing for when they asked how much his reputation was worth. That was funny af.
That bit of the transcript was hilarious, because you can practically see the moment when it registers that he's about to do something his attorney told him not to do, but he's basically too late to stop it and so he just kinda meanders off since he knows he shouldn't say the obvious point he was working towards.
I'd love to see the video of that exchange, now that I think about it.
How much of an idiot is screech? Granted, he did Blackface, so I guess that answers my question
Apparently Screech leaked Monica' Depo last night.....and said this during the part where she was talking about her encounter with Vic in the hotel room..........
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Except it was done by one man who wasn't even a lawyer AND he was still more competent than Beard.
Christ. Like I already knew it to be the case but fuck me, Rekieta is a truly vile human being. Fucking scum.
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I was gonna say... you should probably place some warnings and spoiler tag when quoting that stuff directly. Both for what she's describing and his rape apologism.
Not faulting people for sharing it, but we should be careful about how we do so.
Not faulting people for sharing it, but we should be careful about how we do so.
...I need a fucking shower after watching that. I honestly didn't think he could go much lower but here we are.
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Thank you mods for putting in spoilers, in my anger I regrettably forgot to do so. I'm still angry at that fucker, I can't fucking believe it. Just completely fucking loathsome, horrendous behavior.
What? I meant, not like literally, just like he's a crappy guy. Or are you making a joke?
They are making a terribly unfunny joke, yes.
Also kinda gross too.
I feel sick.
Before, I'd call any Rekieta follower's moral character into serious question; now, I have no qualms in calling them out as the monsters they are.
This would be a good moment to remember that, as ridiculous as the legal side of this is, the central issue here is a serious one. Similarly, as much as Rekieta wants to use his law degree to be the bully he always aspired to be, him using his platform to spread rape myths is probably the most dangerous thing about him. It's in the territory of hate speech where it should have you considering where if almost totally unrestrained free speech is really a good idea.
There's something about his delivery that reminds me of when my relative brought up Vic and didn't think I'd have taken the other side. Maybe it's just a nerd thing, but I don't think that's it. Like, the delivery feels a little dragged out and stilted, like once the thoughts are hitting his brain it leads him to have doubts about whether he's in the right here, but then he decides that if he's going to be the bad guy he's going to be so shamelessly.
There's something about his delivery that reminds me of when my relative brought up Vic and didn't think I'd have taken the other side. Maybe it's just a nerd thing, but I don't think that's it. Like, the delivery feels a little dragged out and stilted, like once the thoughts are hitting his brain it leads him to have doubts about whether he's in the right here, but then he decides that if he's going to be the bad guy he's going to be so shamelessly.
Remember this bone-chilling piece of awfulness from the Gizmodo write-up? Same exact rhetoric.
It makes you wonder if Rekieta and Mignogna first became friends over their shared misogyny.
I have no doubt that is the case. The tired ''innocent man being attacked by them evil females'' narrative is what attracted that grifter to Vic in the first place.
Yes a big thanks to the mods...and my apologies to those that were upset with what I posted.
Thanks for sharing -- I saw this come up on Twitter, but hadn't seen any video.
Love his screenshot of the chat comments recognizing how screwed Vic is.
Thanks for sharing -- I saw this come up on Twitter, but hadn't seen any video.
Love his screenshot of the chat comments recognizing how screwed Vic is.
Good. Expose this guy.
I swear there's a tiny moment when he's saying "it always does, doesn't it?" that there's actually a conscience somewhere in that husk of a man trying to re-assert itself.
Grabbing a woman's hair and whispering in her ear ''I love it''. Yep, that's certainly helps his case. So playful.
Get fucked Mignogna.
Rekieta pausing the video to pray Vic lies, then sloooowly reaching for (I'm assuming) alcohol once Vic spills the beans is killing me.
maybe his chat realized it that night but did hte whole i stand with vic community do?Thanks for sharing -- I saw this come up on Twitter, but hadn't seen any video.
Love his screenshot of the chat comments recognizing how screwed Vic is.
"See, Vic admitting to the accusations and sinking his case is the kind of 4th dimensional chess you dumbass SJW libcuck snowflakes are too stupid to understand! 😤😤😤"
I believe Greg estimated around September? Something to do with FUNi filing a TCPA first, I believe.
Greg mentions how Beard's likely in violation for the former, but as for the latter...well, I'll lend the reins to Mr. Dunford:
