Barbara Streisand would be proud
Is that room named after Al Jolson? The guy that made his fortune through blackface?Don't really get exposed to Vic stans too often since I don't use Twitter, but I was looking at the timeline of one and I saw a retweeted gotcha that I genuinely can't figure out. It was this segment from I forget which deposition, presumably Vic's:
MR. LEMOINE: The Fuhrer.
MR. BEARD: The Fuhrer?
MR. LEMOINE: Yeah.
MR. BEARD: As in Adolph Hitler?
MR. LEMOINE: I don't know.
MR. BEARD: Is that how it's spelled?
MR. LEMOINE: Yes.
And the comment along the lines of "lol, lemoine is so stupid". But I don't see how you're even supposed to get that from this excerpt. My first thought it is it's supposed to be duh it's obviously an anime thing, except it was Beard that brought up Hitler. The next thing is that he said he didn't know if Fuhrer was referring to Hitler, so maybe it's calling him stupid for that. But if he's stupid for that, then what, he's supposed to say "of course your client's fanclub is referring to him as if he's Adolph Hitler"?
That's new info. You have to rent those meeting rooms from what I can see, and I can't imagine it'd be cheap especially given the location. They don't give general prices but I'm seeing mention of a $5000 voucher; I'm wondering if it's actually going to be profitable for Vic.
To get an idea of the size, the room is Barrymore, in the bottom left corner. It's not the smallest but it's far from their biggest meeting room.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Well, I don't want to write that off, either. I still think it's possible that he's more of an enabler than we've been told so far. But I don't think we know he did that from this story.
To clarify, I agree the potential power abuse is more concerning -- I came across the Harry Potter anecdote on Kanzenshuu and given Huber's involvement has been a hot topic, I thought both stories were worth sharing given how out there they were.Honestly, as far as the topic of this thread is concerned, I have to admit that I still don't think that's relevant enough to be the smoking gun on Chuck Huber. Vic's behaviour was enabled for years by people within Funimation and the convention circuit, which Chuck Huber might have been a part of. That's personally what I'm concerned with with regards to Huber. While him running an ultraconservative school is absolutely bizarre, I don't think it in itself gives us any more concrete idea about his relationship with Vic and his abuse than it did before.
It was already known that he had wacky beliefs (flat earth theory isn't a traditional Catholic belief), it was already known that he was a religious guy which might have led to him being sympathetic to Vic. But if the optimistic read of the situation was that he was a naive guy who ended up taking an atrocious position in order to be the middleman, I don't think this particular information provides anything that kills that reading.
Although with his proximity to Vic, I think this school of his is more concerning to me because it's a position of power that could potentially be abused. Like, his treatment of the teacher deserves criticism in and of itself.
On Feb. 19, Rial tweeted a lengthy post in which she alleged that Vic grabbed her in a hotel room and forcibly kissed her without her consent at an anime convention in 2007.
Rial said that she decided to go public with her account of Mignogna’s actions “to put a face to the voices.”
“There were so many stories out there, but because they were these faceless voices on the internet, nobody wanted to believe them,” Rial said in an interview with The Dallas Morning News on July 24.
Rial, who has lived in the Dallas area for about a decade, and Marchi, a North Texas resident for 15 years, talked in the July 24 interview about the relentless harassment from Mignogna’s fans. Marchi said, “It’s been really hard. But I would do it again.”
“The greater good was way more important than either one of us in this,” she said. “I’m standing up for so many women and victims who feel like they can’t say anything.”
Rial and Marchi each recounted examples of the backlash since they released their stories on social media: the posting of private information and harassment online and in phone calls, efforts to have the women fired or banned from fan events, and a barrage of death threats.
Marchi said that staff at conventions and studios tell her that they "are constantly getting harassing emails about us. Even our friends or colleagues we've simply done a panel discussion with — they are doxing those people and making it very known ... that they will get the same treatment we are."
Doxing refers to the online posting of personal information, such as home addresses and photos of residences and vehicles. Lemoine said Mignogna's online supporters are using this tactic "in a transparent attempt to intimidate witnesses in this war against two women."
Rial’s allegations about the verbal abuse against her in the past six months were similar to Marchi’s, and she, too, was steadfast about her actions.
“With everything I’ve been through — the death threats, the hatred, the trying to ruin my career, trying to get me fired because I came out and told the truth,” Rial said. “That is worth it if it saves one woman, one girl from having to deal with this kind of situation again.”
Both women also said they were thankful to be in this together. “We know this is going to be awful and who knows how long it’s going to be this awful,” Rial said. “But as long as we’ve got each other, and we’re standing together strong, let’s get the truth out there.”
That's one of the worst parts in all of this, not only you come forward with something that most likely makes you uncomfortable to talk about (I haven't met or seen someone who is comfortable talking about being sexually harassed) but in their case they have to deal with unhinged shitstains doing a bunch of terrible things to them, their family and friends thinking they are defending the honor of their rapist idol. Just awful.Both Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi needs to be applauded for going public to give women and girls who were assaulted by Vic a voice amid all the awful shit they're being put through by Vic fans:
In the world of English-dubbed anime, Grapevine resident Vic Mignogna is a voice to be reckoned with.Mignogna once again voiced fan favorite...www.dallasnews.com
Yes Vic, those kids need you to hug and kiss them. Just like the women you’ve sexually harassed. You were doing them all a favor by pulling their hair and forcing yourself on them.
If Vic Mignogna was the type of person who would reflect and change his ways, he would have done in years ago. We know he's mocked the idea of consent, deliberately undermined efforts to keep him away from women, and gotten passive aggressive to women who have gotten away from him before. His pattern of behaviour is extremely well established and so it's easy to make inferences from it. The only thing that's shocking to Vic is that he's actually facing some kind of consequence for his actions.
God, even the thumbnail is skeevy. Vic's totally the kind of dude that hugs a girl just to make breast contact without realizing that you're supposed to grow out of that mentality in high school.
It's hard to reflect when you're insulated by a cheerleader squadron reassuring you that you've done nothing wrong.
UGHHH. I didn't even need sound to know exactly what tone of voice Vic was using. It's the exact same attitude he had YEARS ago when he held an entire panel at some convention to defend himself against """accusations""". I wonder if it's still on YouTube; it's gotta be impossible to find now that searching "Vic Mignogna defense" probably returns nothing but stuff from this trial...
I'll tell you; I was working (in an extremely casual small business atmosphere, mind) with an Italian friend who told me that she was more comfortable with hugs than handshakes and tried to negotiate a deal where I got to have handshakes some of the time and she got to have hugs some of the time.
Hell no, that would be gay, and gayness is dark and evil as commanded by his Lord and Savior (who never actually said anything of the sort, but whatever).