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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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You're absolutely right. They're more than likely lying, but to disregard everything as fake seems foolish. I'm not suggesting you take everything and run with, more of a sit and wait for more details approach.
Lol, not surprised in the slightest that he was in the process of crafting a more elaborate apology after giving one before the whole blackface and beard thing happened.
Not feeling a ounce of sympathy for him for losing his money and the rest of his dignity on this case tho.
Houston has a lot of alternatives for anime cons actually. Delta H Con happens in the fall while Oni-Con takes place in Galveston, an tour's drive away.
So basically Vic was going to do the right thing but then all this happened and he threw redemption out the window?
Dude is probably holding on to hope that the lawyers can salvage what little of a career he has left so he's not doing appearances at random malls and dojos, so he's not going to dump them outright
He probably also knows in the back of his mind that his lawyers are A class grifters and are only going to make things way worse
I predict when all of this is over, Vic's gonna slide into his final form: a televangelist.
To this day, I still cannot believe Nick Rekieta is a successful grifter, and then I remember Donald Trump is president.
At this point, it's not about anime, it's about the culture war Vic happened to fall ass backwards into, and grifters taking advantage of it.
Holy shit.
I can't wait until he comes on stage with a motorcycle and pierced ears to really reach the youth with how hip he is. Talking about how the greatest T-Pose was the one Jesus did to sacrifice himself for our salvation
If I'm not mistaken,
"motion to extend time to dismiss" - as in, trying to get more time before the judge just throws the whole fucking thing in the trash
"depo dates set for Vic, Monica, and Ron" - dates set for these three to be interviewed in order to obtain testimony to be used as evidence
Previously Percy Beard had this whole thing where he tried to move the depo dates after agreeing on a date that was convenient or himself and Vic, and then tried to get a confidentiality agreement at the same time. He failed with the confidentiality, I forget if there was a known result regarding the dates (and had no idea why he was suddenly so afraid of the original agreed date anyway).
Wait, I looked at the actual filing and it seems to be a little different than the tweet. It says "agreed motion to extend time to file motion to dismiss". So that gives the defense more time to request that the case be thrown out? Or could it be a minimum amount of time before they file it? I'll look over the whole thing in a bit.
Okay, so what I get from this thing is:
- both sides filed this thing
- they've agreed on certain dates (June 26-28) to get the testimony
- they want the date to motion for dismissal to be moved in accordance
- I don't see any particular tactical reasoning here; the case Monica/Ron/Funimation's side makes is that this allows a timely process for information to be gathered, whereas Vic's side is saying that it's in accordance with regulations
- if the request goes through, July 19 is the relevant date (I think it's the deadline at which the defense can file for the case to be dismissed, but I'm not 100% on that)
- "and grant Plaintiff and Defendants Rial and Toye all other relief to which they may be entitled." seems like it could be important, no idea what it could be. Could be nothing and just necessary to put in, or could be that there's something else associated with this
- both sides filed this thing
- they've agreed on certain dates (June 26-28) to get the testimony
- they want the date to motion for dismissal to be moved in accordance
- I don't see any particular tactical reasoning here; the case Monica/Ron/Funimation's side makes is that this allows a timely process for information to be gathered, whereas Vic's side is saying that it's in accordance with regulations
- if the request goes through, July 19 is the relevant date (I think it's the deadline at which the defense can file for the case to be dismissed, but I'm not 100% on that)
- "and grant Plaintiff and Defendants Rial and Toye all other relief to which they may be entitled." seems like it could be important, no idea what it could be. Could be nothing and just necessary to put in, or could be that there's something else associated with this
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Need an actual lawyer to chime in to describe how much of this is actually significant.
To me it sorta just seems like a formality- depositions are taking long enough to happen that they reasonably want to still have time to file for dismissal after. And it's not clear if Vic/Beard going along with the extension matters, or if fighting that would seem unreasonable (to the point that even they understand that). Guessing that last bit indicates it's a matter of being reasonable, but idk.
To me it sorta just seems like a formality- depositions are taking long enough to happen that they reasonably want to still have time to file for dismissal after. And it's not clear if Vic/Beard going along with the extension matters, or if fighting that would seem unreasonable (to the point that even they understand that). Guessing that last bit indicates it's a matter of being reasonable, but idk.
Not a lawyer either, but my hunch is pretty much the same; it's just something everyone knows the defense is entitled to but for some reason the defense doesn't get it automatically and has to file a motion.
But since some people have been asking how long this is going to go on, at least we have some dates. End of this month, they give their testimony. Halfway through next month, the defense can try to get the thing killed right then and there.
Since when has anime had anything to do with Christianity? You've got Superbook yeah, but most of it is either "Shinthism" flavored, anti-worship, or not concerned with religion at all.
You can tie Christianity to pretty much anything if you try hard enough. Vic has been doing Christian panels/sermons at anime cons since the beginning. I always thought it was weird but now it's clear that it was just another way he could gather more members into his cult.
You're right for the most part; this is literally all just scheduling for discovery's sake.
The relevant portion of the statute is this:
In short, the Vic's attorney and the Defendants have already been in contact on arranging deposition dates. However, things can easily fall through, scheduling conflicts can arise, etc, etc, which may push things beyond the 60 day default for Defendant to file a dismissal. Now as for why the Plantiff would agree to this, it's more a professional courtesy and also due to how a Judge would likely allow likely one continuance even over their objection, so why waste the time even going down that road (plus, the Judge may also not be happy if the Plaintiff's objected because showing good cause for a continuance in this circumstance isn't that hard).
This way, Vic's attorneys can still depose the Defendants to try to prove whatever it is they want to prove, and the Defendants can still depose Vic and still file a timely motion to dismiss depending on what goes down in these depos.
Shinthism?
And it was usually just a request of his which cons obliged with because they didn't want to upset such a big draw, as I understand it. As has been shared, he's always been a bit of a diva, even if certain cons' staff never saw that side of him.
That mix of Shinto (local gods, statues, holy sites/purified people, prayers) and Buddhism (reincarnation... i thought I had more) that seems to inform the religon and afterlife of a lot of anime/video games
What in the actual fuck lmao, just when you thought things couldn't get any weirder and more pathetic on their side.
I can freaking believe I'm siding with the goddamn Duck Dynasty people on something, that's the true power of blackface lawyer I guess.
Omg! LOL Seriously people think these two fools are the best lawyers?
Ah. I see that referred to as Shinto-Buddhist mostly. But gotcha.
As an aside, I thought the debaters here were rather polite (maybe they had just lost their confidence by now) so I looked at their twitter feeds. On has has screencaps from Shield Hero saying how it unintentionally parallels #IStandWithVic, the other has a retweet of a guy stanning for that N-word spouting NRA kid that got his acceptance rescinded from Harvard.