liquidmetal14 Member Oct 25, 2017 1,004 Florida Jan 27, 2020 #401 Envelope said: Clearly there's a lot more to be said about the "hoopla" Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, and it was when it happened. And btw, I was a hater too when that happened. I just didn't yell it from the rooftops. Nor do I feel like arguing about it now.