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ElectricBlanketFire

What year is this?
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Oct 25, 2017
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Not exactly breaking news if you're at all familiar with his past, but it does a good job laying everything out.

Vice said:
In the following years, WWE proceeded to make Warrior a centerpiece of their burgeoning corporate philanthropy efforts, creating the Warrior Award, to be given out at an elaborate ceremony every year to a recipient who "exhibited unwavering strength and perseverance, and who lives life with the courage and compassion that embodies the indomitable spirit of the Ultimate Warrior." This year, the company merged its Warrior branding into its longstanding partnership with the Susan G. Komen Foundation with the #UnleashYourWarrior campaign. Various WWE Superstars and several breast cancer survivors have been sporting the likeness of the Warrior on television all month as part of the campaign and the company has been relentlessly promoting it on social media. Unleash Your Warrior.

Now is probably a good time to quickly go over a few of the things this man said during his stint as an aspiring conservative firebrand in the 2000s. All of these blog posts have been deleted, but through the magic of internet archiving, we were able to track them down.

On the injustice of Martin Luther King Day:

"Martin marched a few times from Selma, AL to Montgomery, AL. It's only about 40 miles and he walked along paved roads with security escorts and modern comforts and conveniences. He wrote a few jailhouse letters, plagiarized a great many speeches, and played up his last name "King" as if he was ONE. He led his best rally amid the monuments of Washington, DC. He preached proper, righteous behavior while he at the same time committed adultery many publicly verifiable times — oh, and he had "a dream." One to see a race of people freed completely from discriminate oppression."

On famed WWE Announcer Bobby "The Brain" Heenan (who had recently been diagnosed with throat cancer at the time):

"As for you, Booby Heenan, it's just too difficult to keep a straight face talking about the pure two-faced bag of sh– you are (and have always been), what, with you also actually wearing one as a piece of body jewelry. You are dying, dis-eased on the inside, and no more time is left to get back any of the integrity that matters the most on death's bed. Imagine what it will be like, lying there taking in your last breaths, knowing you whored yourself out your whole life, and had to, in your final years, be faced with emptying your own personal sh–– bag affirming to you the true value of what you achieved in your life. Not even Vince could come up with a better finish than this. Karma is just a beautiful thing to behold."

This one is particularly relevant given that, by sheer coincidence, Heenan's recent death coincided with the launch of the #UnleashYourWarrior campaign. It's unclear whether the Susan G. Komen Foundation is aware of Warrior's past statements — they declined to comment on this story.

More at the link.
 

spindashing

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Queens, New York

HarryDemeanor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well...wrestling is fake. /s

WWE is notorious for their revisionism of their talent. Check out anything involving Benoit and the WWE network.
Oh absolutely. It's just amazing to me that they're willing to forget the past of one man and yet make another completely disappear. I'm not equating Warrior's hatred to Benoit's murder but they're both bad. Honoring courageous people through Warrior's memory might be even worse.
 

Just_a_Mouse

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wow, as someone who doesn't really follow wrestling I had no idea he was such an awful person. Those excerpts from him are shocking to say the least.
 

TemplaerDude

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Komen foundation is a notoriously shitty charity as well. WWE sure knows how to make themselves look good.
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah making a breast cancer campaign based around a man who celebrated someone getting cancer is pathetic.

And then you factor in all the other bigoted stuff Warrior participated in
 

BFIB

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Oct 25, 2017
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Listening to a lot of wrestling podcasts, I've yet to hear anyone say anything positive about Warrior as a person.
 

Kost2coast

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Oct 27, 2017
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Well...wrestling is fake. /s

WWE is notorious for their revisionism of their talent. Check out anything involving Benoit and the WWE network.

I remember 2K Games deleting and banning players who created a Chris Benoit character in WWE 2k15. They just don't want to acknowledge the past if it doesn't suit their company. I really feel for David Benoit because of what the WWE has done to his fathers legacy
 

Sibersk Esto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Give it all to Macho.

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One of the biggest names of the EXACT same era as Hogan and Warrior, but without the shit baggage. By all accounts, he was always willing to do what was right by up and coming talent. But because he didn't die after slurring out a speech on RAW, he gets shit. Fuck Warrior.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Warrior is an absolute bastard. WWE should be ashamed of trying to paint him positively.

Give it all to Macho.

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One of the biggest names of the EXACT same era as Hogan and Warrior, but without the shit baggage. By all accounts, he was always willing to do what was right by up and coming talent. But because he didn't die after slurring out a speech on RAW, he gets shit. Fuck Warrior.
I mean, he's not as bad as Warrior, but by most accounts Savage was an abusive husband to Elizabeth.
 

DiceHands

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I get that they are trying to do a good thing, but partnering with the most evil cancer corporation in Susan G should tell you all you need to know.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Jesus, really? Ugh... :( I swear too many of the wrestling superstars I used to admire when I was a kid, have turned out to be real scum.

As if watching certain PPVs wasn't difficult enough (Wrestlemania 4/5 being hosted at Trump Plaza, with the dictator in chief being in visible front row)

The more I hear about things, the less I want to rewatch my classic WWE events :/
 

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Hard when your childhood heroes turn out to be asses.

Hopefully savage isn't found out to be similar

All I have left is mr t and Optimus prime

Don't let me down
 

Dali

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Haven't watched wrestling since I was a kid, but Ultimate Warrior was one of my faves. Sucks to hear he was a piece of shit. I mean I've heard he was like a roided out douche or something before, but to know he was like that piece of shit Hogan on top of being roided out is a drag.
 
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Dark Ninja

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If there was ever a person that could have used insanity and drugs as an excuse for being an asshole it was Warrior. Also about 70% of other wrestlers.
 

Violence Jack

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Yep. I was waiting for an article like this. Regardless of how awesome 10 year old me thought the Ultimate Warrior was, he was one of the worst human beings associated with wrestling up until his death. Maybe they'll successfully erase the horrible person he was and make his image stand for something great, but all I've been seeing WWE do is tie breast cancer survivors to him because his name is Warrior.

I still think they should name their cause after an actual woman wrestler. Someone like Wendy Richter, then have her and Cyndi Lauper show up to present the award every year.
 

greenbird

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Hopefully this picks up and more casual fans can learn about all of this. WWE trying to whitewash the past is nothing new, like the Moolah stuff referenced in the previous post.
 

Baji Boxer

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A problem with naming any charitable org or "movement" after a classic wrestler is how many of them were roided up brain damaged carnies. Not a great pool of people when looking for moral fortitude. When thinking of all these wrestlers I loved as a kid, it's just sad.
 

thefro

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's also a dick, even subtracting the racism, he's just a dick

That's most pro-wrestlers from Hogan's era, unfortunately. Either they were dicks by nature or they got so drugged up to work so much on the road that they were out of control pricks. Or they were "fun" to hang out with, but sexually harassed/assaulted women, drank a crazy amount, got in bar fights, drove cars at a hundred miles an hour, etc. Or they were nice to their friends, but good luck if they decided they didn't like you (i.e. Andre).
 

MoosiferX

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To echo the general sentiment, yeah eff that guy and the warrior award.

Wasn't the whole impetus for the warrior award that comment he made in his hall of fame induction? He said something along the lines of they should make an award to honor the hard working people behind the scenes. Guys who worked like crazy to make the production of the show work. And then when he died WWE chopped up/edited that whole bit to fit their narrative.
 

Valkyr

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I get that WWE is a public company but they are just so sleezy sometimes when it comes to this stuff. They white wash everything when it comes to wrestling history. Of all the people to honor, why choose Warrior? He was a known shitbag. Seems like pretty much everything that company does these days rubs me the wrong way.
 

Bronx-Man

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It's been known for a while in WrassleERA that Warrior was a sack of shit. Fuck him, fuck SGK, and fuck this company for trying to lift him up as some hero.
 

lacer

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This stuff is indefensible, and the Warrior award and how they've flipped from shitting on him constantly while he was alive to venerating him now that he's dead, but the stuff he wrote on that blog was during his time outside of the company. They're not going to voluntarily bring it up, let alone try to atone for it. This is a company that has a murderer in it's Hall of Fame and employed a couple of Nazi dudes in the late 90s.
 
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I stopped watching wrestling before the internet took off so I had no idea about the wrestlers behind the scenes.I saw a video a few years ago of the Warrior speaking at a university and saying some bullshit like "Queering don't make the world work" which made me glad that I always preferred Macho Man over Ultimate Warrior.

I mean, he's not as bad as Warrior, but by most accounts Savage was an abusive husband to Elizabeth.

Noooooooooooooo. Next you'll tell me that The Bushwhackers were terrible people too.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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With Wrestlemania being in New Orleans this year a local newspaper should also bring up to them the shitty stuff Warrior said about the city in the aftermath of Katrina, calling it "no great loss". He sounded like Rorschach:

"If we could be shown what general conditions they lived in before the hurricane, we would see that had little respect for what they did have. We would see just how unorganized, unclean and dysfunctionally they lived. They never gave a care for order, cleanliness or function before, but now that they can get someone's attention who will possibly take over the responsibility of their life for them, they go on these tirades about how their life has been ruined. Their lives were already in ruin — self ruin. Ruined by the bad choices they made over and over.

And they are fat. Have you ever seen so many fat people? Poverty? Poverty of what? Having enough to buy so much food to eat that you become obese — this is poverty? Only one TV? This is poverty? A house with a roof over your head? This is Poverty? Indoor plumbing? Electric appliances? Refrigeration? Phones? Cell phones? Computers? Designer clothes made by rap stars? $200 Nikes? Free medicine and medical care if you really need it? Is having all this poverty? What the hell, then, do we call the scenes they shoot out of Africa that they use to lay guilt trips down on all of us?"
 

sibarraz

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I'm kinda glad that warrior made peace with the WWE so his family would at least get some money from it. But sadly, the Price for this (plus Hogan being banned of the WWE and Savage making formal peace with the comapny) is that now Vince is selling Warrior as the most important figure of the era, and is awkwardly selling him as a positive figure, when his homophobia or overall shitiness is wildly known, it doesn't help that he is used as a figure against cáncer when he wished the same ill towards Bobby Heenan

Sometimes I wonder if Vince is really out of touch or he just likes to do things like that just to show how powerful he is while getting away with horrible shit like this
 

NinjaScooter

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He's a piece of shit but so are the people that run the WWE so it's like super unsurprising. WWE operate on a bubble where they rarely if ever have to answer for their fuckery.
 
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As grim as it sounds it will probably happen after his death. They'll take advantage of the sympathy and use it to put him in a positive light.

I doubt it. Hogan isn't that old. I mean he is a pro wrestler but he's probably not going to die for a long time. Vince is older than Hogan by 8 years and I doubt Vince is going to die without making up with him.