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L Thammy

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While also inspired by Godzilla, I always thought Tyranitar more resembled Bemular.

As for a few other Ultraman inspirations:

Dorako/Scyther
Takkong/ Golem
And while not exactly the same, Electabuzz got a lot from Eleking

Embarrassingly, while I have the whole original Ultraman series on DVD, I haven't really committed the monsters to memory enough to have made these connections myself. I think you're right though; not only has Satoshi Tajiri mentioned growing up on Ultraman in his interview with Time magazine, but Pokemon emerging from Pokeballs is clearly based on the Capsule Kaijuu from Ultraseven. Hell, the original name for the series was Capmon (Capsule Monsters)!



Not sure if anyone will care about this but me, but it occurred to me a while ago that the Battle Clash series on the Super Nintendo was inspired by the works of Ryosuke Takahashi and Sunrise. On a general level, the post-apocalyptic setting is more in line with these than the militaries and politics of Gundam. The first design of the ST Falcon from Battle Clash is similar to the Scopedog from Votoms; a squat pot-bellied machine. The speed and inertia on your first-person camera makes it seem like it has a similar skating movement.

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Then you have a new design in Metal Combat, which I think emphasizes the influence of the Dougram from the anime of the same name. More lean, tall body and a long shoulder-mounted cannon. The faceless rectangular isn't new but it's more in line with the Dougram than the rounded Scopedog head.

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Additionally, an invincibility powerup you get in the games - which allows the ST Falcon to fly through space in the second game - is called the V-System. I suspect that it's inspired by the V-Max from Blue Comet Layzner, which also gives the ST Falcon its blue colour. In Metal Combat it plays a vaguely similar theme when you activate it.





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gforguava

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Yeah the whole movie really. Anyone's whose seen it will feel the similarities from top to bottom. But more importantly I think this wasn't really that evident until the games became 3D, starting from Ocarina of time. That game really laid its inspiration on thick.
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The whole Triforce Trio (notice Cruise's lack of pants, which will forever become a trademark of Link):
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The eccentric woodland side characters...
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Yeah, I was going to come in with this. It is incredibly striking just how much Legend feels like Zelda, specific details are different of course and the tone is completely its own, but you can't help but feel the connection between the two.

Jack himself as solitary 'nature aligned boy' with no pants, Oona(the fairy) when in her tiny orb-of-light form, the storybook style 'only characters who exist are the ones needed for the story' feel.

Link, meet Jack.

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L Thammy

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Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear) / Lars Ul Meta-Licana (Bastard)
Having never made this connection before, Bastard! and Guilty Gear are both inspired by heavy metal to the point of taking several character's names from heavy metal music in some way.

Ky Kiske - Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske from Helloween
Lars Ul Metal-Licana - Lars Ulrich from Metallica

I believe Bastard has a spell called Helloween (possible just Halloween) which is invoked by reciting the names of members of the band, including Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske.

Of course, there are countless more references than this. Sol Badguy, for instance, is named after a Freddy Mercury album (Mr. Badguy) and wields his sword like Freddy Mercury swordfighting with his microphone stand in the Princes of the Universe video. In canon, Sol Badguy's real name is Freddy and he's a huge Queen fan so it's potentially intentional with him.
 
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Devil

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I have scrolled through pages 1, 5 and 6 (but not in between) and was really surprised to not see this one...

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Hey, this is "M. Bison", totally not Mike Tyson.

THE ripoff which got the whole name change thing going for the three characters now also known as Boxer, Claw and Dictator.
 

Fritz

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Is Legend actually any good? Never seen it.

It's stunningly beautiful, that's for sure. In the production design department it was probably as influential on the fantasy genre as Bladerunner was on sci fi.

The story is nothing to write home about though. Really basic fairytale imho. Curry's performance is godly though. All in all it's really worthwhile if you can enjoy a film purely for it's aesthetics.
 

L Thammy

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Oh, about Bruce Lee clones in fighting games. I don't know if it was a spoof of the concept generally or a specific reference to Fei Long, but there was a chapter of early Yu-Gi-Oh about that. This was from the first Kaiba arc, before the series became about the card game and was just a general game-themed manga.

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Yugi goes to an arcade - where it later turns out Kaiba has the high score on every machine - and decides to play a fighting game. He mains the Bruce Lee clone, Bruce Ryu, and rambles to Joey about how awesome Bruce Lee movies are.

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Another player hops on the machine who also plays as a Bruce Lee clone. He sucks at fighting games so Yugi repeatedly destroys him every time he puts another coin in. The guy then steps out from behind the machine and turns out to be a real life Bruce Lee wannabe, who then beats the shit out of Yugi.

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The "game" they play in the chapter is a street fight where Joey and this guy both have a knife held in their mouths tip pointed inward, and they try to punch each other so that the knife stabs though the other guy's throat.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh, about Bruce Lee clones in fighting games. I don't know if it was a spoof of the concept generally or a specific reference to Fei Long, but there was a chapter of early Yu-Gi-Oh about that. This was from the first Kaiba arc, before the series became about the card game and was just a general game-themed manga.

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Yugi goes to an arcade - where it later turns out Kaiba has the high score on every machine - and decides to play a fighting game. He mains the Bruce Lee clone, Bruce Ryu, and rambles to Joey about how awesome Bruce Lee movies are.

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Another player hops on the machine who also plays as a Bruce Lee clone. He sucks at fighting games so Yugi repeatedly destroys him every time he puts another coin in. The guy then steps out from behind the machine and turns out to be a real life Bruce Lee wannabe, who then beats the shit out of Yugi.

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The "game" they play in the chapter is a street fight where Joey and this guy both have a knife held in their mouths tip pointed inward, and they try to punch each other so that the knife stabs though the other guy's throat.

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They really need to do an OVA of early Yugioh.
 

Linkura

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So curious to note, and it's kinda the opposite but figured I'd mention this.

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Mint from Threads of Fate (Dew Prism), would ultimately serve to be used as the basis of of Asuna from Negima.

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What happened reportedly was as follows (provided I'm not misremembering anything). Originally Ken Akamatsu was supposed to work on a manga adaptation of Dew Prism (his younger brother had been involved with the game, along with a couple other Square Enix games at the time), but reasons unclear, the project was scrapped. Aspects of his design works and stuff would end up being re-worked into the Negima! manga, including Asuna's looks and personalities likely being based off of what he intended to do for his adaptation of Mint.

My guess is originally Dew Prism was supposed to be a bigger multi-media project for Square Soft but a lot of plans fell through for various reasons. The deal with Kingdom Hearts could've been one of the things that killed it, honestly. But who knows.
Does Ken Akamatsu do anything original at all? I was rereading some of AI Love You and Love Hina while looking through my old manga and they are clear rips of Oh My Goddess and Maison Ikkoku.


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During the Big Bad Game-A-Thon this weekend, someone played Last Alert. The dude on the left in the middle picture looks almost exactly like one of the villains in Shadow Hearts 2, Hien. I'm wondering if they both ripped something else off or just SH2 ripped Last Alert off, because the other two in that middle pic very slightly resemble other villains in SH2 as well- Ouka and Raiden. They also work as a trio just like in Last Alert!

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Shadow Hearts 2:

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Ithil

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The classic Doom enemy Cacodemon is like cropped straight from the cover of the Dungeons & Dragons expansion book, Manual of the Planes.
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Very different time for video games of course, a little more of a Wild West where you'd get away with this kind of thing, given they also were not subtle about copying numerous Metallica, Slayer, Pantera etc songs for the soundtrack.
 

Evilisk

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Fighting games are so, so bad about this tbh. Like, Mokujin is just from this:

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And some others:

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(From Battle K-Road)

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(From World Heroes)

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(From Street Fighter 3)

I also ran into this at one point:


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(From Metal Slug Attack)
 

Iori Loco

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L Thammy

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Do the people who learned about Jojo through the anime know about Araki's other work? The World Heroes series borrowed from an earlier manga he did for Shonen Jump.

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Neo Dio from World Heroes versus Hirohiko Araki's Baoh.
 

Barn

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Can't find a really good pic, but Samus and Kim Basinger.

Sakamoto has said as much about Basinger, but it's kinda hard to see it in the older pixel art. I feel like Retro Studios really took the Kim Basinger reference to heart with Metroid Prime, though (and I wish both Sakamoto and Retro had kept on that route, honestly):

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Thought of another -- Link in Ocarina of Time was probably inspired by young Leonardo DiCaprio (via Kotaku):

Kotaku said:
So when you were illustrating Link, was there an inspiration for the character?

NAKANO:
Yes. A rather world- famous Hollywood actor . . .

TAKIZAWA: Huh? You mean that actor?

HARUHANA: He is one good-looking guy.

NAKANO: Yeah. At that time, if you were to talk about a really good- looking actor, people immediately thought of this guy. So I recall keeping in mind the point of his nose and that strong-willed look in his eyes when I was drawing.

TAKIZAWA: Actually, I remember Koizumi saying something similar as well. When the watercolor version was being worked on, that actor's name also came up.

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In regards to the Ultraman/Pokemon stuff, it's also worth noting that those Ultra monsters were kept in capsules, and could be freed to do battle (a tradition starting in Ultra Seven). Satoshi Tajiri cites "Ultraman with his capsule monsters" as an inspiration.
 

L Thammy

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Another fighting game example. Makoto Mizoguchi from Fighter's History:

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Momotaro Tsurugi from Sakigake!! Otokojuku:

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Granted, Momotaro Tsurugi is himself blatantly ripped off of Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star, but Sakigake!! Otokojuku started off as a satire of Japanese imperialism and their traditional view of masculinity, so it came across more as a gag than as totally shameless at first.
 

L Thammy

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Actually, I think that Protoman's based on Hakaider from the tokusatsu series Kikaider. He's the maybe-evil "brother" of the robot hero, and he always signals his appearance by whistling. I think the later anime played up his similarities to Protoman:

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While we're on Mega Man, Rush is based off of Friender, Casshern's transforming dog. Quickman's based off of Casshern too. There are a few other references to Friender in the franchise. There's an enemy in Mega Man 2 with the name that's also a dog that also breathes fire, and Sigma's dog Velguarder in the first Mega Man X game has a very similar look.

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And Tron Bonne's team is probably based off of Time Bokan's typical villain groups, as are Team Rocket from the Pokemon anime and - more blatantly - Devilotte de Death Satan IX from Cyberbots.

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There are even Pokemon based on Doronjo.

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butalala

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This is less about characters and more about the setting/vehicles/world, but F-Zero bears an uncanny resemblance to the much darker Running Man segment of 80s anime OVA, Neo Tokyo:

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This vehicle certainly reminds me of Black Shadow's F-Zero Racer

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Falcon (especially SNES Falcon) reminds me of Judge Dredd

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flak57

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Yeah the whole movie really. Anyone's whose seen it will feel the similarities from top to bottom. But more importantly I think this wasn't really that evident until the games became 3D, starting from Ocarina of time. That game really laid its inspiration on thick.
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The whole Triforce Trio (notice Cruise's lack of pants, which will forever become a trademark of Link):
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The eccentric woodland side characters...
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I don't know about later Zelda games, but Legend came out in the UK 2 months before Zelda in Japan, and that was after Zelda was put on the backburner to complete Mario because it was coming along so well, otherwise it probably would have been released in mid/late 85 like all the other Hydlide inspired games.

Stuff like the Triforce is straight out of Hydlide btw, fairies and all that stuff too, although there were obviously other games as well.
 

Nakenorm

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Oh, about Bruce Lee clones in fighting games. I don't know if it was a spoof of the concept generally or a specific reference to Fei Long, but there was a chapter of early Yu-Gi-Oh about that. This was from the first Kaiba arc, before the series became about the card game and was just a general game-themed manga.

rykzy.png


Yugi goes to an arcade - where it later turns out Kaiba has the high score on every machine - and decides to play a fighting game. He mains the Bruce Lee clone, Bruce Ryu, and rambles to Joey about how awesome Bruce Lee movies are.

p0k1i.png


Another player hops on the machine who also plays as a Bruce Lee clone. He sucks at fighting games so Yugi repeatedly destroys him every time he puts another coin in. The guy then steps out from behind the machine and turns out to be a real life Bruce Lee wannabe, who then beats the shit out of Yugi.

ljjvt.png


The "game" they play in the chapter is a street fight where Joey and this guy both have a knife held in their mouths tip pointed inward, and they try to punch each other so that the knife stabs though the other guy's throat.

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Man.. as someone who got introduced to Yu Gi Oh Through the manga, i gotta say im still so damn disappointed that they went all in on the card game.


But what do they have in common except the white hair and both using, different kinds but still, swords?
 

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Kcannon

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Huh I never connected those dots, but now it seems unmistakable. I guess F-Zero is inspired by all kinds of dystopian cyberpunk.

Its primary inspiration is Batman though, as confirmed by the original devs. The original concept is likely inspired by the Batmobile. Vehicles driven by superhero-like people.

Black Shadow is a blatant Batman ripoff too.

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butalala

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Its primary inspiration is Batman though, as confirmed by the original devs. The original concept is likely inspired by the Batmobile. Vehicles driven by superhero-like people.

Black Shadow is a blatant Batman ripoff too.

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Feels more like Dredd since Black Shadow didn't show up until the 2nd game.
 

Kcannon

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Feels more like Dredd since Black Shadow didn't show up until the 2nd game.

The story is that director Shimizu was in America during the late 80's and got influenced by the Tim Burton movie (which does have a dystopian look to it).

He also bought a bunch of Batman comics, so it's possible they could've stumbled into Dredd.