sick dunk my friend. i too hate when parents try to contextualize films and educate their children about history.
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Wait... Did Pocahontas "both sides" things?
- Thread starter Boogiepop
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sick dunk my friend. i too hate when parents try to contextualize films and educate their children about history.
The fuck is wrong with you? Was an insult necessary?
It was the 90s, we went to see the next animated Disney film because it was Disney. We didn't get to research the film thoroughly like we do now on forums. We went to see it and as we came out my dad tought me how what I just saw was completely Disney-ified. I was 9 and not an American so his very quick history of the real mistreatment of Native American Indians was welcomed and needed.
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Not to dogpile on you, but Disney did put out a G-rated animated family movie a year earlier about a brother who murders his sibling, his nephew finds the corpse and is scared off into the wilderness where he lives in self-exile for years.
And then they followed up Pocahontas with a G-rated movie about church corruption, sexual perversion, human deformity and ostracized minorities, and the importance - and dangers - of religion and religious zealotry.
Colours of the Wind should be remembered as a standalone Disney song.
Torch the movies. They never happened 👀
Torch the movies. They never happened 👀
Hunchback deserves far more love and study. Disregard the gargoyles and it's a seriously dark, depraved story that explores a tale of "a man, and a monster".
All while, you know, the main villain is a lusty pervert who tries to murder a girl for rejecting his advances while aiming to use church power to commit genocide against her people, while the deformed child he tried to kill and only held onto to misuse and mistreat eventually takes action against him. That's not really an "interpretation". That's, like, the main plot of the movie.
Your pops should have balanced out the Disney with some Maiden
JonTron talking about how the US should be able to protect its culture and not let immigrants pollute the white breeding stock, or something of that nature.
Probably the most absurd Katzenberg story I heard was his feedback to Bill Farmer (Goofy's VA) during the production of A Goofy Movie.
He told him he needed to use his natural voice because no one would take it seriously.
He was concerned no one would take a character named "Goofy" seriously, in a movie called "A Goofy Movie," if he had a goofy voice.
I find this endlessly fascinating. I hope all of this is true and not made up. Wow.
It's also telling that Pocahontas is probably the only real life figure that Disney animated as they realised that they can't disnefy it and expect to get away with it.
The entire movie was tone deaf from start to end.
God Boogie is a fucking idiot.
Peter Pan used to be my favorite Disney movie but the fact that the song exist and Disney hasn't really acknowledged that it's racist makes it really uncomfortable to watch.
The entire movie was tone deaf from start to end.
There ya go.
God Boogie is a fucking idiot.
Peter Pan used to be my favorite Disney movie but the fact that the song exist and Disney hasn't really acknowledged that it's racist makes it really uncomfortable to watch.
Internet celebrity JonTron got himself in a ton of hot water by revealing himself to be a White Supremacist.
Boogie suggested that maybe America should learn from White Supremacists like JonTron (because of course, White Supremacists are rational people, who have valid opinions, and some really good ideas, once you sit down and really listen to them), teach the White Supremacists (because of course, nobody has ever tried teaching these people, and White Supremacists are clearly reasonable people who are open-minded and willing to learn), and then America can come to some sort of compromise position with White Supremacy (like, maybe instead of killing all the Black people, or allowing them to live in peace, we could come to the less extreme middle-of-the-road position of merely enslaving them and forcing them to work on cotton farms?).
Pocahontas is an awful, awful film and one of the most irresponsible creative decisions Disney has made.
I actually hadn't watched this in a long time and mostly just remembered the chorus and the premise. Even more then the sterotypical "red man" for native american the blatant sexism of the song is mind blowing.
