Warhammer 40,000 |OT| In the Grim Darkness of the 40K Era There Is Only War

Keasar

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Dark Mechanicum working hard.



Just got a bunch of the Ravenor books for Audible and gonna listen through them all now after finishing the Eisenhorn series. Must say, listening to a Warhammer book without Toby Longworth reading it would feel wrong at this point, quite warmed up to his voice. Then I just gotta wait for them to make all the Gaunt's Ghosts books into audiobook form.

Any other Imperial books available (preferably) in audiobook form I should listen to while shopping around? I got Dark Imperium loaded up as well but I still have a bunch of credits on Audible I'd love to spend on more Warhammer books now that Black Library have been branching out so well. I've read Helsreach, before anyone suggests that (a favourite). Maybe it's time to start diving into the Horus Heresy series?
 
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Nazo

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Dark Mechanicum working hard.



Just got a bunch of the Ravenor books for Audible and gonna listen through them all now after finishing the Eisenhorn series. Must say, listening to a Warhammer book without Toby Longworth reading it would feel wrong at this point, quite warmed up to his voice. Then I just gotta wait for them to make all the Gaunt's Ghosts books into audiobook form.

Any other Imperial books available (preferably) in audiobook form I should listen to while shopping around? I got Dark Imperium loaded up as well but I still have a bunch of credits on Audible I'd love to spend on more Warhammer books now that Black Library have been branching out so well. I've read Helsreach, before anyone suggests that (a favourite). Maybe it's time to start diving into the Horus Heresy series?
You can’t can’t go wrong with both Dante and Devastation of Baal. They’re great listens. Though be ready to hear the word blood a lot. I mean A LOT.

Blood of Iax is a fun read. Though it often reads like a big advertisement for Primaris Marines it’s still plenty enjoyable with a really fun Ork antagonist.

The audio drama about the Beastman bounty hunter from Necromunda is pretty good too. A bit on the short side but it’s fun.
 

Keasar

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You can’t can’t go wrong with both Dante and Devastation of Baal. They’re great listens. Though be ready to hear the word blood a lot. I mean A LOT.

Blood of Iax is a fun read. Though it often reads like a big advertisement for Primaris Marines it’s still plenty enjoyable with a really fun Ork antagonist.

The audio drama about the Beastman bounty hunter from Necromunda is pretty good too. A bit on the short side but it’s fun.
I ain't put off by a bit of blood! I'll put these on the wishlist then so I have a bit of a library to pick from with my next credit spending.
 

Nazo

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Something I noticed while looking at the Codex: Daemonkin in the Shadow Spear box is that on the two pages showing off the other legions and war bands brief lore and color schemes they omit both the Emperor’s Children and World Eaters. This might be our first hint of a coming codex for both of them in the future.
 
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Got my marine half of Shadowspear built, there’s some really nice sculpts in there. For all the online bitching about Suppressors I really like the minis. Makes me want to get some Space Wolves painted once my gargantuan squiggoth’s finally finished.
 
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As well as Abaddon, there are new Chaos Space Marines up for pre-order next week!
The new Chaos Space Marines set builds you a squad of ten of these superhuman reavers, realised in baroque and terrifying splendour. Just as awesome-looking as the models from Warhammer 40,000: Shadowspear and Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress, these models have been made with customisation in mind, allowing you to build units of close-combat raiders, long-ranged fire teams and anything in between. If you’re looking to field smaller squads, there are enough parts inside to build two units of five, each with a special or heavy weapon, Chaos Icon, and appropriately sinister-looking Aspiring Champion.

Fittings on this set are compatible with much of the Chaos Space Marines and Space Marines ranges, allowing you to go crazy with conversions and head swaps to make your Legion your own. Maybe you’ll mix in Mk III armour to make some Iron Warriors, or stir in parts from a Tactical Squad to make some more recent renegades. Indeed, the diversity within the set is such that you could probably build a Legion of Chaos Space Marines from the kit with each model looking different.



Love 'em!

The Noctilith Crown:

As well as new units, Chaos players can look forward to a new terrain piece. Taken as a Fortification, the Noctilith Crown is more than just an awesome centrepiece, but a tactical lynchpin for the Heretic Astartes, giving nearby units an invulnerable save and making it easier for Chaos Psykers to cast their fell magics…

The Noctilith Crown also represents some exciting developments in the lore. Last year, in Forgebane, we found out Blackstone can be attuned to weaken or strengthen the power of the warp. The Noctilith Crown is one example of what happens when the Heretic Astartes get their hands on this miraculous mineral, used to sunder the veil and allow ingress for their daemonic allies…
Looks like a Chaosified Stargate.

Vigilus Ablaze:

With Abaddon leading the Black Legion in their latest brutal assault on realspace, the war for Vigilus enters its final, terminal phase…

In this latest campaign book, you’ll follow the thrilling conclusion of the war for Vigilus. Lore, maps and art bring this latest conflict to life in rich detail, while a number of missions and rules allow you to fight the most epic battles for yourself – or just spice up your regular games of Warhammer 40,000.

Vigilus Ablaze is absolutely packed with new rules content for Chaos players. Like Vigilus Defiant, the book rewards you for taking narrative-themed forces with a number of Specialist Detachments, like the terror-bringing Host Raptorial or the mysterious Fallen Angels. That’s not all – the book also contains vastly expanded rules for the Black Legion, offering you your very own Stratagems, Relics and Warlord Traits that fit this storied Legion’s legendary record in battle.

Vigilus Ablaze also breathes new life into the Renegade Chapters – those raiders and corsairs who have joined the ranks of Chaos since the dark days of the Horus Heresy. You’ll find new traits for fan-favourites like the Red Corsairs and Crimson Slaughter, plus rules for niche but beloved renegades like The Purge, Brazen Beasts, Flawless Host and The Scourged. Each has their own rules, including a bespoke Relic and Stratagem. WIth Vigilus Ablaze, you’ll have more freedom when building your Chaos army than ever before, allowing you to create a dread host to suit your tastes.

And there’s still more. Vigilus Ablaze also serves as a sizeable update to Khorne Daemons, with new rules for the Bloodmaster, Skulltaker and the Skull Altar, giving you another excuse to use these incredible new models in your Warhammer 40,000 army.
There's also an updated edition of the Chaos Space Marines codex:
The Heretic Astartes have expanded a lot since their codex was released in 2017, so we’ve given Codex: Chaos Space Marines a spruce-up! We’ve combined the previous codex with recent rules releases – including new datasheets, psychic powers, and Chapter Approved points changes – for your convenience.
 
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Mikeside

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Yeah they are making me seriously thinking about starting a chaos project.

You know. Just a kill team...
it's tempting isn't it!
I get that damn feeling with nearly every release these days

Ooh cheap Knights, I'll get a new force
Ooh Blackstone Fortress
Ooh Mad Max Orks
Ooooh they're fleshing out Genestealer Cults
Ooooooooh look how good the new chaos range is...

I had to stop at Orks. I'm sure there'll be something fighting for my attention again in the next month or two, but I'm barely halfway through any of my projects so its time to double down and get shit done!
 

StaffyManasse

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Oct 28, 2017
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it's tempting isn't it!
I get that damn feeling with nearly every release these days

Ooh cheap Knights, I'll get a new force
Ooh Blackstone Fortress
Ooh Mad Max Orks
Ooooh they're fleshing out Genestealer Cults
Ooooooooh look how good the new chaos range is...

I had to stop at Orks. I'm sure there'll be something fighting for my attention again in the next month or two, but I'm barely halfway through any of my projects so its time to double down and get shit done!
This. I got a reasonable backlog as it is and the Sisters release is getting closer day by day.

It's a good thing they seem to really supporting Kill Team, so it is a reasonable way to cut down on new projects you just cannot resist.
 

LTWheels

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Nov 8, 2017
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I’ve stopped buying for army building unless it’s kill team. Instead I buy models that I want to paint so I have a weird mismatch of units. I want to buy the new blood master model despite not having my Korne models.
 

Ohnonono

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Oct 29, 2017
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Holy Terra
This. I got a reasonable backlog as it is and the Sisters release is getting closer day by day.

It's a good thing they seem to really supporting Kill Team, so it is a reasonable way to cut down on new projects you just cannot resist.
I am right there for sure. I want to have my Death Guard and Deathwatch done or very close before I get a sisters army. I hope Sisters are timed before the holidays so I can just make it my project next year.
 

Mikeside

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I'm definitely not going to collect Sisters of Battle.
If I manage to get caught up, my next painting project would probably be Dark Wolves - a CSM successor to Space Wolves with some nice heavy weapons.

It's a long way off and I'll probably change my mind, but that's the current thought
 

Bombless

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Given how awesome these new kaos bois are makes me very excited about the new Sisters because they were also very gothic(c). I've decided not to get the Blackstone expansions just so I can put that money towards the Sisters.

Do not fail me now GW!
 
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I keep saying it but the pace GW operates at these days is incredible. Even if you've got quite specific tastes in the particular games and factions that interest you, chances are that there's something to pique your interest every few months.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, I decided to start a new Army and use Kill Team to help with that. I want an army that is easy to paint since it has been years since I have painted anything.

...this is why, in my infinite wisdom, I decided to buy some Harlequins. I'm not that bright...
 
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Battle Sister Bulletin 3 - Adding Character: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/battle-sister-bulletin-3-the-charactersgw-homepage-post-4/
We’ve seen iconography, our first plastic Battle Sister and we’ve peeked at the rules – now, in today’s Battle Sister Bulletin, we’re looking at the heroes. Join us as we explore how the new range of models brings the strange, terrifying world of the Adeptus Ministorum to the tabletop…

Heretic Astartes Focus - The Black Legion: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/18th-mar-heretic-astartes-focus-the-black-legiongw-homepage-post-1/
The Chaos Space Marines are set to receive a huge wave of new reinforcements – not to mention the amazing Daemonkin units in Warhammer 40,000: Shadowspear – so this week, we’re taking a closer look at the Traitor Legions themselves. First up are the main antagonists of Vigilus Ablaze, the dreaded Black Legion…

New Chaos Terminators:


VoxCast Episode 8 - Max Faleij: http://voxcastpodcast.com/voxcast-episode-8-max-faleij
'Eavy Metal painter Max Faleij talks about how he joined the 'Eavy Metal team, his work on a number of 41st Millennium painting projects, and shares his insights as a Golden Demon judge.
 

Nazo

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Really like the new Chaos Termis. They have much better proportions and much more dynamic than the old ones.
 

Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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I wonder if the Noise Marine upgrade sprue will work on the new larger Chaos Marines. If they don't then their will be no way of getting legit Noise Marines, until Games Workshop release their new line of poseable Noise Marines based on the original 91 design, (come on GW! You know you want to make it happen).

Interestingly enough, I was digging round the GW site and looking at all the discontinued Chaos models. Included stuff you expected, Terminators, origional Abaddon etc. But among them were Havocs (I presume you can build them in the new CSM kit) and the easy build Cultists. Might be the signal of a new Cultist range on the horizon.
 

Bizazedo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Battle Report incoming - Death Guard versus Imperium (Astra Militarum, GREY KNIGHTS?!, Assassins)

I once again entered battle versus my buddy who loves the Imperium. Standard preface, as normal, that to his credit he chose the Guard before their current era of dominance and refuses to buy a Castellan Knight. Unfortunately, for me, this game also ties into his strengths ever since he learned how to build meta decks in Magic the Gathering before he knew what the word Meta was in the 90s. ANYWAYS….

My Death Guard list was Death Guard was a whacky list inspired by a poster I read elsewhere loving their Possessed. I say inspired only in the sense that it uses Possessed. Any flaws in the actual list are mine, not his. I decided to run –
3 Rhinos (beta bolter rule amirite?!)
10 Possessed
2 Foul Blightspawn
1 Lord of Contagion (!) with Plaguereaper
10 Cultists
10 Plague Marines in two squads of 5 with two Blight Launchers each
3 Fetid Blight Drones (Plaguespewers, naturally)
2 Helbrutes (twin lascannon and missile launcher)
1 Tallyman
1 Malignant Plaguecaster

The general idea was threat saturation! Give each Rhino some threats, so one Plague Marine squad and two 5 man Possessed were split between the three. Foul Blightspawn were separated and in two of them and the Tallyman and Plaguecaster were similarly situated. Then, with the speed of the Rhinos and the Blight drones, just bumrush like I’ve never bumrushed before and see what happens?! With 9 CP, seemed like fun.

Opponent had a Vigilus artillery park with 3 Basilisks, Harker, and two Wyverns. 60 Guardsman were arrayed around the map with two mortar squads as well, but not as much as previous battles. The reason? An assassin (an Eversor he wanted to try) and a Grey Knight contingent of a squad of Grey Knights, a Storm Raven, and a baby carrier (Dreadknight). Kaldor Draigo also decided to show up, “emerging from the warp”, causing us all to giggle.


Ah, Draigo.


Death Guard go first. As this was a fun game, we rolled for seize, and the Imperium actually won it….but as we actually wanted to play the game, we ignored it. The Imperial player had already chosen the deployments, going first per CA 2018 rules would’ve ended it quickly. Speaking of, the mission actually ended up mattering. It was Vital Intelligence, the mission with 5 objectives, one in the center, one in each other quadrant, and each is worth one point per turn except for whichever objective is rolled for at the beginning of the turn (that one being worth 2 that turn). Roll a 6 and they’re all worth 6. This made the Imperium player spread out a bit more.
Anyways, DG rushes. The Rhinos speed forward, popping smoke, moving 15, 14, and 13 inches. The Bloat Drones also aggressively push forward along with most other things. The Helbrutes, bless their hearts, either miss or have their wounds saved and do nothing against the Vigilus artillery park which used the 2 CP Cover stratagem at the beginning of the game. Ruh roh, Shaggy.

The Imperium retaliates. The Stormraven roars out and uses its massive base to block one of the Rhinos. The Dreadknight is teleported out to block the second. The artillery park opens fire on the third. The -1 to hit helps a lot here. One Rhino is killed (no one dies getting out) and one Rhino is dropped to 3 wounds. Additional shots are taken at the now vulnerable Possessed, but losses are limited. Shocking. The Dreadknight, utilizing psychic shenanigans and stratagems, is able to charge and has a 2++ (wtf?!), but does not kill the Rhino it attacks.

The Death Guard go. The Rhino blocked by the Stormraven is thankfully able to deploy the Plague Marine squad and a Foul Blightspawn. Due to the terrain, they’re hemmed in pretty well, but the Foul Blightspawn does his best to start moving around. He also has Nurgle on his side, rolling a 10 STR 4 hit all wounded Plaguespewer against the Stormraven, singlehandedly dropping it from 14 to 2. The two remaining Plague Marines squads and the Rhino figure, hey, four blight launchers, ton of blight launchers, we got this, right? No. The Stormraven survives on one wound.

The Possessed dismount from the other Rhino and start moving around the DreadKnight (barely / controversially) using some wobbly model shenanigans. The Rhino remains in melee and shockingly survives yet again with 2 wounds now, meaning the baby carrier cannot charge the Possessed. Lord of Contagion drops in with the other Possessed and makes his charge into the Guard. The Possessed with him? They fail in such a way that a re-roll would have a poor chance of working. That’s not a good thing, especially as the LoC then decides rolling two 1s on wounds is a good idea against GUARDSMEN.

Helbrutes do nothing, but the Fetid Blight drones roar in, bathing three squads in plague and destroying most of them. They also charge in where they can, eviscerating the front line. The Imperium’s left flank is shredded with three of the four guard squads being brutalized. The artillery park is so close….

The Imperium goes! Remember the mission? The Grey Knight squad teleports to attack an objective in the back held by cultists and the Eversor drops in to take on the Plague Marine squad on the other. The cultists disintegrate to the storm bolters and Wyvern fire, but the Plague Marines hold up disgustingly well to the Eversor charge. The guardsmen fighting the LoC fall back, but not enough to stop the LoC from heroically intervening again during melee. Will he survive the Basilisk fire? Yes, yes he does, but only due to making 4 of 6 Disgusting saves during the final shots.
The Imperium fire is somewhat disjointed, here. The Death Guard has a lot of targets they want dead, but nothing is actually falling. Two of the three Blight drones drop to below five wounds, but one is still at eight. The LoC is still a threat at one wound and chops up four more Guardsmen in the melee. The Dreadknight finally frees itself from the Rhino and is able to consolidate into the Possessed (my fault, darn it!) and the 2++ allows him to shrug off 15 Possessed attacks re-rolling all hits and wounding on 3s. The bright side is that the deployment and blocking moves of the Stormraven and the Dreadknight are holding off Death Guard from rendering the artillery park donezo.

Half the Death Guard possessed are tied up with the Dreadknight, so they try and make a go of it with the Talleyman (they got 3 wounds, wtg guys). The Stormraven attracts some errant fire, but refuses to go down, with the Helbrutes still being saved against (one Basilisk does die, finally). Worse, the backlines of the Death Guard are being pressured and the Death Guard is now starting to slip in points. The still free squad of 4 Possessed go for an objective, making their charge and eradicating a weakened Guardsmen squad, but the retaliation from Imperium fire once the Guardsmen are killed rips them apart. Kaldor Draigo gets into things and helps put down one of the blight drones, but eats a lot of plaguespitters and is down to 2 (I think) wounds.

And then the devastating part. The mission rolls a 6, meaning all of the objectives will be worth two, and the Eversor has forced the Marines off an objective.

Unfortunately, we had to stop due to time. I am convinced that, despite the LoC finally breaking the AM squad he was fighting and consolidating into a Wyvern and a Basilisk, that I could never come back. Could I table them? Yes. The Helbrutes were unhurt, their line was buckling, I still had two of three Blight Drones, and Kaldor Draigo, while mighty, is hurt and the Daemon Prince has just arrived and is about to charge….
….but he had a lot of points and we were about to hit turn 4. I don’t think I had enough time to claw myself back via points. The Imperium player did believe I’d turn the corner and come back. I don’t see it, but we ended both saying the other had it. In short, that means it was a great game!

The Death Guard survived mainly due to how many targets had Toughness 7 and Disgustingly Resilient. The Imperium fired so many times, yet wounds constantly sloughed off as if it was nothing. The Eversor also was probably not the best assassin to use, but hey, fun games, have to try them out.
The blocking moves by the Stormraven and the Dreadknight, though, prevented the Imperium from being in a bad situation too early and I despise 2++ Dreadknights (he was built for melee). The Lord of Contagion, despite being stuck with Guardsmen, still did better than anticipated, mainly due to sucking up so much Basilisk fire. 2+, 4++, Disgustingly Resilient isn’t bad.
Leftover random pics, including closeup of Eversor -



 

Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nice battle report. I collect DG myself so it was an interesting read, haven't got any Possessed yet but might be soon. Especially since next month me and a mate are splitting Shadowspear and I can see myself getting some regular Possessed if I like the Greater Possessed in that kit.

Apologise for being a bit nosy here but could I ask where you got the trunk-like head for your Daemon Prince from? I got a Nurgle Prince from ebay a few months back with the same head and was always curious where it came from since it seemed like it didn't originate from the DP kit.
 

Siggy-P

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Awesome Batrep, these things are always appreciated.

And that's a really good looking Deathguard army. Especially the paint job on the Rhinos and drones, it's a really neat little touch making them slightly different shades of green as it comes across as different stages of rot.
 

Bizazedo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Nice battle report. I collect DG myself so it was an interesting read, haven't got any Possessed yet but might be soon. Especially since next month me and a mate are splitting Shadowspear and I can see myself getting some regular Possessed if I like the Greater Possessed in that kit.

Apologise for being a bit nosy here but could I ask where you got the trunk-like head for your Daemon Prince from? I got a Nurgle Prince from ebay a few months back with the same head and was always curious where it came from since it seemed like it didn't originate from the DP kit.
Nurgle Plague Drones if memory serves.


Awesome Batrep, these things are always appreciated.

And that's a really good looking Deathguard army. Especially the paint job on the Rhinos and drones, it's a really neat little touch making them slightly different shades of green as it comes across as different stages of rot.
I wish I could take credit, but I have Muscular Dystrophy, so I always have other people assemble / paint my stuff. It turned out well, though!
 

Nazo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, after spending far too much money on 3D printed squad markings and heraldry for my Blood Ravens that don't actually fit their fucking shoulder pads properly I think I'm just going to paint my Space Marines as Ultramarine's from now on. Which is fine, I got into 40k with the Space Marine video game all those years ago so it's all kinda coming full circle so I'm not too broken up about it. Not to mention almost all the models I own I'll be using for my Wrath & Glory campaign so having generic Space Marines is probably a good idea on my part.

I miss you captain Titus... :'(
 

Chairdeath

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Oct 29, 2017
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Hey Warhammer ERA, didn't know this was here! Recently did a Hawkshroud Knight for a local store and it was hard to part with I liked it so much. Was like giving away one of my children.

 

Mikeside

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Well, after spending far too much money on 3D printed squad markings and heraldry for my Blood Ravens that don't actually fit their fucking shoulder pads properly I think I'm just going to paint my Space Marines as Ultramarine's from now on. Which is fine, I got into 40k with the Space Marine video game all those years ago so it's all kinda coming full circle so I'm not too broken up about it. Not to mention almost all the models I own I'll be using for my Wrath & Glory campaign so having generic Space Marines is probably a good idea on my part.

I miss you captain Titus... :'(
could you not just get Blood Raven transfers instead of 3d printed?
If you need help with transfers and making them look good, there's plenty you can do!
 
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Hey Warhammer ERA, didn't know this was here! Recently did a Hawkshroud Knight for a local store and it was hard to part with I liked it so much. Was like giving away one of my children.

Very nice work. The detail and color variation are quite impressive. I don't think I could paint for someone else, I'd hate to part with it as well.
 

Chairdeath

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Very nice work. The detail and color variation are quite impressive. I don't think I could paint for someone else, I'd hate to part with it as well.
Lovely work and welcome to the thread!

Thanks! The money helps but the big pieces are always a bit hard to part with. I'm currently painting a gentlemen s Stormcast army and all the infantry doesn't stick with me but the riders and heroes do.

I just got the Shadowspear box and that spider crawler has got me thinking about a personal army 4. Was originally going to sell the Chaos half but man he is a pretty spider demon thing.
 

Nazo

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Oct 25, 2017
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could you not just get Blood Raven transfers instead of 3d printed?
If you need help with transfers and making them look good, there's plenty you can do!
I probably could, but at this point I kind of don't feel like spending any more extra money on stuff like that. I actually tried to make my own awhile ago too but they came out looking like shit and any source I could find that you could order customized transfer sheets online from felt kinda sketchy so I shied away from it. It's not a big deal honestly. I actually like the Ultramarine's. Not to mention they have a really nice and well established and consistent visual design unlike the Blood Ravens like I was ranting about on the last page. So it'll definitely be nice to satisfy my OCD. lol
 

Fright Zone

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Hey guys, new-ish to Warhammer (well, like most people I was into for a year or so when I was 12/13, painted a handful of miniatures badly then lost interest).

I've always loved Nurgle (had the original tiny metal Great Unclean One back in the 90s) so when I saw that Warhammer Conquest would be coming with Death Guard models I started grabbing them where I could and have quite a few now.

Been down the rabbit hole this week spending hours looking at models on eBay/Pinterest etc and it's bringing up a lot of (probably dumb) questions!

Is converting just customising models? I'm seeing loads of cool models online and wondering what they are but I'm guessing they're customs.
Can I theoretically convert anything to Nurgle? I have a space marine Dreadnought model, can I turn it into a Hellbrute?
If I bought, say, squigs or trolls, could I customise them into Nurgle beasts?

I'm mainly just interested in the models and painting them, but if/when I actually have a painted army I might want to try my my hand at playing, so would those type of custom units not be allowed?

Also a bit confused about what exactly is/isn't Nurgle. The Death Guard are right? I saw models called Gellerpox online and couldn't fine them on the GW site at first so thought maybe they were third party or something, but they're part of a box set that doesn't come up when you search Gellerpox or Nurgle or anything which is quite confusing. As is all the lore!
And there are actual third party models too right?
All a bit overwhelming right now haha, should probably just stick to painting the ones I have before I branch out.
 

Chairdeath

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Oct 29, 2017
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Hey guys, new-ish to Warhammer (well, like most people I was into for a year or so when I was 12/13, painted a handful of miniatures badly then lost interest).

I've always loved Nurgle (had the original tiny metal Great Unclean One back in the 90s) so when I saw that Warhammer Conquest would be coming with Death Guard models I started grabbing them where I could and have quite a few now.

Been down the rabbit hole this week spending hours looking at models on eBay/Pinterest etc and it's bringing up a lot of (probably dumb) questions!

Is converting just customising models? I'm seeing loads of cool models online and wondering what they are but I'm guessing they're customs.
Can I theoretically convert anything to Nurgle? I have a space marine Dreadnought model, can I turn it into a Hellbrute?
If I bought, say, squigs or trolls, could I customise them into Nurgle beasts?

I'm mainly just interested in the models and painting them, but if/when I actually have a painted army I might want to try my my hand at playing, so would those type of custom units not be allowed?

Also a bit confused about what exactly is/isn't Nurgle. The Death Guard are right? I saw models called Gellerpox online and couldn't fine them on the GW site at first so thought maybe they were third party or something, but they're part of a box set that doesn't come up when you search Gellerpox or Nurgle or anything which is quite confusing. As is all the lore!
And there are actual third party models too right?
All a bit overwhelming right now haha, should probably just stick to painting the ones I have before I branch out.
I'll take a shot here.

1 - Converting is indeed customizing a model. From changing out a head or weapon, cutting parts off or adding bits to a model.

2 - Anything can be converted to Nurgle? Well, you can make other models as stand ins for current Deathgaurd units. Check the codexes for units list (Or battlescribe) to see what you could field and make stuff match. Using other models as as stand in (Like your Hellbrute example) just make sure the model base is the same size as what you are playing it as. This is normally perfectly fine but you would want to talk to your opponent about your custom units so they are on the same page.

3 - Gellerpox is a unit of Nurgle units from a boxed set from the small scale game Kill Team They have Nurgle Demon unit rules for the big game.

4- 3rd party models are a bit of an odd one. Yes, lots of them are out there and most people wont really mind as long as they fit the description and base size of what they are being used as, again, talk to your opponent. Now some stores, and very much GW stores will not allow them to be used.

Remember in the proper game there are two armies you are talking about, Deamons are an army and Deathgaurd is another army.
 

Bombless

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey Warhammer ERA, didn't know this was here! Recently did a Hawkshroud Knight for a local store and it was hard to part with I liked it so much. Was like giving away one of my children.

Looks fantastic, I understand your reluctance to part with it, lol.

I once spent a full night assembling and painting a tiny diorama for the wedding of one of my cousins the next day (barbarian and woman duo from Hasslefree + treasure chest base) and despite being a gift from me I still sometimes regret giving it away, especially considering it was probably thrown away almost immediately.
 

Mindwipe

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Oct 25, 2017
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London
I definitely understand that reluctance too. I got stuck in a rut of painting far too much stuff for other people in my late teens and early twenties, and not really charging enough for it in retrospect. Painting became too much like a job on top of my other job, and I parted with quite a bit of stuff I was proud of and miss.

But the variety was definitely helpful for my development as a painter.
 

Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Also a bit confused about what exactly is/isn't Nurgle. The Death Guard are right? I saw models called Gellerpox online and couldn't fine them on the GW site at first so thought maybe they were third party or something, but they're part of a box set that doesn't come up when you search Gellerpox or Nurgle or anything which is quite confusing. As is all the lore!
And there are actual third party models too right?
All a bit overwhelming right now haha, should probably just stick to painting the ones I have before I branch out.
The Death Guard are Nurgle followers through and through. If you are interested in collecting a Nurgle themed army then they are a great backbone to get started. Now the Gellerpox Infected are models from a boxed game called Kill Team: Rogue Trader (a thematic expansion for their Kill Team game). These guys are generally expected to be run as a Kill Team but you can run them in 40k as a mini army to go along with a larger Chaos force. If you are interested in the Gellerpox they are currently only in Rogue Trader but if you wanted a cheaper option they do have their own mini codex with all their 40k rules so if you dig about on ebay for 'Gellerpox models and codex' then you might get a good deal on them.
 

Mikeside

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Oct 25, 2017
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UK
I think going for Gellerpox is quite niche and awkward for list building.
Primarily, buy what you want to paint, but if you're thinking of that army you could be building towards, then I'd say stick to Death Guard and Nurgle demons to start with - there's plenty of fantastic models to choose from & you can even throw in some regular marines/chaos marines and convert them to be plague marines if you want some experience converting
 

Ohnonono

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Oct 29, 2017
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Holy Terra
I am finally getting a scheme down to use for my Space Wolves I have had sitting around for almost a year. That said I also accidentally learned to two brush blend by coincidence so that has been really fun! They will take a while but it is nice to be excited about something you already own for once!