i have a feeling its just going to be Roboute though..its been 2 years and GW hasn't hinted yet who the next primarch coming back will be
Shadows of Prospero hinted at Lion, Corax and Khan.
i have a feeling its just going to be Roboute though..its been 2 years and GW hasn't hinted yet who the next primarch coming back will be
the only person he would probably know from the Heresy (not including Cawl) would be BjornIn story terms hasn't it been a hundred years + since Guilleman was ressurected? How time flies...
Yep, they have previews for 40K, AoS, specialist games and Middle-earth on Saturday and a Horus Heresy preview on Sunday.With Warhammer fest this weekend are they likely to reveal a lot of stuff?
No idea sorry!What are the chances of an Emperors Children Codex to go with the Slaanesh revamp?
No.now that i think about Space Marine 2, and what could of been a great game.. I wonder
could Titus of been transferred to the Gray Knights?
Seems plausible. From the novels, some chapters use Deathwatch to round out the abilities of command staff, or, perhaps more cynically if they have a lot of highly capable officer candidates but not enough openings for promotion, they can be detached to the Deathwatch and the issue put off for a few decades. It's high risk but I suppose not without potential rewards. Ultimately they have to send personnel if requested (unless specific individuals have somehow gained the attention of those pulling the strings), how they interpret that is up to them.
I would go even far as to say that Sigismund is the single greatest warrior that the Imperium has ever seen, excluding the Primarchs and the Emperor.He was respected so much that even Abaddon sent back Siggy's body with his sword to Terra
he was old, he was 1000 years old ancient and was still able to best Abaddon in a duel. Abaddon was just able to survive being stabbed through the chest and then used the talon to finish Siggy off
It's some bullshit meme stuff that the internet likes to talk about.why do people say that the Dark Angels might be heretics, what is this madness about?
why do people say that the Dark Angels might be heretics, what is this madness about?
Abbadon better pray that Dante doesn't get a primaris upgrade. Blood Angels are terrifying enough without the black rage- it's basically their super saiyan mode.
Horus vs Sanguinius 2.0 - Electric Boogaloo.
Lots of the more interesting chapters have stuff that makes them of interest to the Ordo Hereticus, it helps round out hyper-competent space-Knight armies if they've got a few skeletons in the cupboard (or lost in time and space in the case of the Lion's progeny). Hardliner Ecclesiarchy types might also suggest that Astartes not believing in the divinity of the Emperor is questionable at best (although good luck saying that to them, and particularly the Custodes or Robbie). :Dwhy do people say that the Dark Angels might be heretics, what is this madness about?
I've just ordered Dante and Devastation of Baal in my quest to get up to date on the modern 40k lore.In Devestation of Baal (spoilers but it's a really good book and you should read it):
Dante is pro-Primaris as he sees them as a cure for the rage. But they don't know for sure.
But Dante is also getting old and wants to be allowed to die or at least retire, but knows he can't because no one else is good enough to take his place.
but now that Roboute named Dante lord regent over Imperium Nihilus, shouldn't it be time he step down as chapter master of BAIn Devestation of Baal (spoilers but it's a really good book and you should read it):
Dante is pro-Primaris as he sees them as a cure for the rage. But they don't know for sure.
But Dante is also getting old and wants to be allowed to die or at least retire, but knows he can't because no one else is good enough to take his place.
but now that Roboute named Dante lord regent over Imperium Nihilus, shouldn't it be time he step down as chapter master of BA
Not as I read it. I suppose they lose their mind and go rage crazy, but in the BA case it is from reliving the death of their primarch in VIVID detail. The Butchers Nails cause constant horrible pain unless you are fucking shit up.now speaking about the BA...is it true that their red thirst and black rage is similar to the World Eater's Butcher's Nails?
Why keep the Fallen a secret though? that has always been my questionLots of the more interesting chapters have stuff that makes them of interest to the Ordo Hereticus, it helps round out hyper-competent space-Knight armies if they've got a few skeletons in the cupboard (or lost in time and space in the case of the Lion's progeny). Hardliner Ecclesiarchy types might also suggest that Astartes not believing in the divinity of the Emperor is questionable at best (although good luck saying that to them, and particularly the Custodes or Robbie). :D
Generally the Dark Angels are a loyalist chapter, but will always put their hunt for the Fallen and the perceived need to keep it secret first if the two conflict. This means they've silenced or abandoned Imperial forces, as they are in so deep in their moral 'sunk cost fallacy' that they can't see a way out. Something I find works quite nicely with El'Johnson's animalistic youth as this wild predator lost in Caliban's primordial forest. Hunt or be hunted, kill or be killed, all or nothing, etc.
The inter-factional rivalry of Imperial forces is makes it so interesting as a setting to me- half the forces you can field are Imperial ones and most of them need little excuse to scream 'die heretic!' at each other.
Because half of the legion fell and that the Lion is very much a secretive person who rather not let people know about certain stuff.Why keep the Fallen a secret though? that has always been my question
every legion, even loyalist legions during the Heresy had traitors. Why do the DA go to such lengths to hide the secret of The Fallen from the Imperium?
what i understand is that its an obsession that a DA will give up all duties to the Imperium if he knows there is a Fallen somewhere nearBecause half of the legion fell and that the Lion is very much a secretive person who rather not let people know about certain stuff.
In Devestation of Baal (spoilers but it's a really good book and you should read it):
Dante is pro-Primaris as he sees them as a cure for the rage. But they don't know for sure.
But Dante is also getting old and wants to be allowed to die or at least retire, but knows he can't because no one else is good enough to take his place.
I think it starts with pride and shock, in that the legion numbered 001, with a history of campaign success unbeaten by any except Horus returns home to find their brothers have turned, the battle costing them their home, their foundation myth, their sense of security, superiority and even their Primarch, the one guy that saw the final moments happen being an unreliable narrator (or is he? Of course he is! Or is he?).like the White Scars also had a significant amount of traitors but you don't see them whining about it or feeling self guilt about it constantly like the Dark Angels
Dang, I didn't know the DA was that successful I would of thought it would be the Ultramarines knowing Roboute's geniusI think it starts with pride and shock, in that the legion numbered 001, with a history of campaign success unbeaten by any except Horus returns home to find their brothers have turned, the battle costing them their home, their foundation myth, their sense of security, superiority and even their Primarch, the one guy that saw the final moments happen being an unreliable narrator (or is he? Of course he is! Or is he?).
The Heresy wasn't just Marine Legions, although they make up the central forces due to the Primarchs putting a face on the armies and having a personal connection. Stacks of worlds, support formations, Titan Legions etc turned too. Reprisals following the final battle would have been brutal, overwhelming, swift and horrific. I don't blame the surviving Dark Angel commanders, told to split their strength according to the Codex Astartes, feeling a touch paranoid and going 'yeah, maybe now isn't the time to talk about exactly what happened, let's just say 'a bigger boy did it (chaos wizards) and ran away'. I suspect the surviving loyal Primarchs and fledgling Inquisition started asking a few questions, and, if they suspected anything, thought little of it, something that's been borne out by 10,000 years of DA actions since.
On the DA side, that time has been spent indoctrinating every recruit with stories of 'And what do we do to turncoats?' and 'how do you regain honour if a (cough) ally turned on you out of the blue?', long before they know anything more than anyone else does. By the time that recruit joins the inner circle, they are primed to continue the deception, and by the time they are of high enough rank to go beyond that, centuries of psycho-conditioning have done the job.
This made me smile while reading the Deathwatch book, where they have their librarians put a lock on recruits investigating each other's secrets. Anyone want to bet on whether the Unforgiven have detached anyone from their inner circles to go hang out with Inquisitors and powerful librarians from other chapters? I can just imagine them in the 32nd millennium, going 'for the Lion's (our) sake, don't send them anyone who knows anything!' :D
There's a lot of overlap in the Primarch's abilities by design- just as both Dorn and Perturabo are excellent at siegecraft, the Lion is up there with Roboute in terms of strategy and might be even higher. However, it's a very cold form of strategy focused solely on martial victory, a 'the ends justifies the means' kind. Where Roboute always has an eye on rebuilding afterwards as a gifted diplomat and administrator, the Lion isn't much for empire-building and social skills, which are his weakness and why he didn't see Luthor's feelings of being slighted or turning coming. He's a great swordsman though, like many of them. Essentially, if you want to knock out a civilisation declared heretic's military and move on to the next target, that's the Lion's main skillset, he'll get it done quickly with as few losses as possible for the optimum result. Unless your optimum result is 'we want to repopulate it afterwards and have the new population think well of us as they farm in the fields we fought in, setting up slow and steady expansion and recruits in future', at which point he was not the great choice.Dang, I didn't know the DA was that successful I would of thought it would be the Ultramarines knowing Roboute's genius
Is the Lion a greater military mind than even Roboute?
Dang, I didn't know the DA was that successful I would of thought it would be the Ultramarines knowing Roboute's genius
Is the Lion a greater military mind than even Roboute?
by the way have I talked about how much of a badass SIgismund is?
If i did, well I'm going to say it again :)
seriously though, There's a reason there's an argument to call him the single greatest space marine to ever live. Not only was he probably the single greatest combatant in the entire history of the Astartes (pre-heresy, post-heresy) although Dante might come close
-He was such an important figure in Phall and the 2nd black crusade
-Black legion describes him as the "the finest duellist ever to wear ceramite" and "at his best he would have rivalled any being that drew breath."
-Sanguinius even says that he wasn't the "Son of Dorn" but the "Son of Death"
- Was the first "Emperor's Champion"
-he whooped Jubal Khan of the white scars Jubal couldn't even register that he was hit until his helmet was dented.
I have a theory that he is the one that kills Knarn during the Siege of Terra that ShadowSwordmaster has been hinting at
sorry for my fanboyism at the moment, i just love this character
nice niceCool cool. I'm personally not a natural fan of the sons of Dorn, but this is one of my favourite illustrationsof in all of 40k
And also come chibi stuff too. I will get some of the chibi stuff at least.Hmm Bandai Primaris Space Marine figure
https://www.warhammer-community.com...ammer4-our-powers-combinedgw-homepage-post-2/
Hmm Bandai Primaris Space Marine figure
https://www.warhammer-community.com...ammer4-our-powers-combinedgw-homepage-post-2/
Hmm Bandai Primaris Space Marine figure
https://www.warhammer-community.com...ammer4-our-powers-combinedgw-homepage-post-2/
That would explain a lot. I used to play the Deathwatch RP and the pre-errata fall damage was calculated so high it was very easy for your Space Marines to fall down a short staircase and just die on impact. Poor guys literally can't lift their arms up to protect themselves from the fall.This is how we discover that space marine armor has pretty basic design floors like not being able to sit down properly, bend over or reach across their shoulders or something.
That would explain a lot. I used to play the Deathwatch RP and the pre-errata fall damage was calculated so high it was very easy for your Space Marines to fall down a short staircase and just die on impact. Poor guys literally can't lift their arms up to protect themselves from the fall.