Right but these leaks are controlled by the campaign outside of the occasional hostile leak.
I'm not asking her to do anything. Read the rest of the posts for context.
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Warren Refuses to Shake Bernie’s Hand After Debate, Bernie Throws Up Hands After They Speak
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I'm fucked. These are my choices lmao. Okay just lemme know who wins the primary. Might have to go vote in the primary....
As a Black man I just glad I got to see the first Black President in history who was also my commencement speaker.
I will probably never again have a viable candidate I identify with.
As a Black man I just glad I got to see the first Black President in history who was also my commencement speaker.
I will probably never again have a viable candidate I identify with.
That's a very generous view of a news cycle and political system that's rife with people acting in self interest and also having an unfortunately novice view of matters they really should be more aware of
Reminder. Both are our best candidates regarding the policies they promote. Since they don't seem to be defending each other anymore we need to defend them both. DONT TAKE SIDES ON THIS ONE. have an opinion that's fine, but don't tear either one down. That's my stance and I want to promote this idea.
Nice detailed contribution.
Just like Warren's description of what happened in their private meeting.
I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that four low level, inexperienced (ex?)staffers heard about this exchange and decided to go to the media in order to smear Sanders right before a big debate?
I'm saying that there's a number of possibilities and that campaigns are not as tightly "secure" as the post of yours I was replying to made it out to be.
Honestly I'm also kinda sad to see this rift happen between the two of them. They seemed like such good friends.
But oh well, they're both still great.
But oh well, they're both still great.
I really want to congratulate Warren for her efforts these last few days to seemingly nominate Joe Biden. Great work, Liz!
Ask Warren. She's the one who refused to shake Bernie's hand, setting a great example for her supporters.
Since Sanders has publically denied having said that before, independent of if the statement is true or not*, I am pretty sure Warren was not legitimately surprised by him saying he did not say it: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bern...ren-woman-cant-win_n_5e1cb47bc5b650c621e32798
* and to be fair, I have little doubt he hasn't said that. Not because I am a Sanders supporter (which I am), but because such a statement would make little sense, both with Clinton almost winning few years ago and such a statement being in no way beneficial to Sanders, because he can hardly think she would drop out just because of him making such a prediction.
Lol give me a fucking break. Still prefer bernie but would vote for liz no problem. Fuck this mudslinging nonsense
Its not even the worst part
By engaging in this stupidity they have made it the only thing they will ever be asked about as long as the media considers it prudent to do so
They are going to have to explain the details of this feud a thousand times over
By engaging in this stupidity they have made it the only thing they will ever be asked about as long as the media considers it prudent to do so
They are going to have to explain the details of this feud a thousand times over
Eh i believe her side of it. So if this really is some type of snub or whatever I don't blame her.
Also reading these past Bernie Warren threads over the last 3 days is something else. Apparently she's a vile evil women etc. And that it's pretty much impossible for Bernie to have said something that tonedeaf, which is laughable.
Also reading these past Bernie Warren threads over the last 3 days is something else. Apparently she's a vile evil women etc. And that it's pretty much impossible for Bernie to have said something that tonedeaf, which is laughable.
Why are so many shitting on Warren over this? Bernie seemingly lied about something and obviously Warren was upset about it.
Is Warren supposed to be "the bigger man" and forget about it? Maybe Sanders should own up to his mistake.
Elizabeth could very well be lying, but Sanders has a history of shit throwing and fucking things up.
Is Warren supposed to be "the bigger man" and forget about it? Maybe Sanders should own up to his mistake.
Elizabeth could very well be lying, but Sanders has a history of shit throwing and fucking things up.
I think the conversation was way more nuanced than Bernie alleging that a "woman can't be president", and I don't really think it was mansplaining for him to respond to an impugning of his character. Perhaps she saw it differently and that is totally fair as well. Things get mixed up in communication, and in competition, things that are inherently touchy subjects can be exacerbated. I just find it hard to believe that he would be so foolish as to say something like this, and I don't think he believes that based on everything I perceive that he stands for (at least based on public statements/writings).
It sucks that this is going to definitely take up a lot of the talk on these two going into the first caucuses.
It sucks that this is going to definitely take up a lot of the talk on these two going into the first caucuses.
Biden looking good, almost spry in this picture.Joe Biden is like:
Gonna look like TROS Palpatine by the end of his presidency...
Gonna side with Bernie in this whole ordeal. I seriously doubt Warren is the type of person to have such a comment flinged at them and let it slide for over a year while also propping up her primary opponent, and I also doubt Sanders is the type of person to give a fuck about Gender, just that they are a strong enough opponent to face Trump and slowly fix the country. Right now its looking to me like Warren saw the opportunity in this smear campaign to get one over Bernie and chose personal ambitions over country and a united front, and right now that is the thing we need the least of going into the Democratic primaries.
Bernie isn't sexist he just understands... like most of us do that a significant part of our country, culture, and voting block still is
Maybe it was fruitless to even bring it up. Its not like Warren needed a fucking reminder especially after how things went down with Hillary
So yeah at worst Bernie is just fumbling with a sensitive topic but I am firmly rooted in believing that the entire democratic field understands and is on the right side of this shit morally
This mudslinging over gaffes and misunderstandings is just weaponizing shit that isn't fucking important. Its a media driven circus
if campaign staff leak withiut authorization, a candidate says so and fires them, especially after previously insisting that the conversation should stay private. those things haven't happened. Acting like Warren herself had nothing to do with this, especially right after the volunteer script "controversy" and on the eve of this debate, is pretty naive.
Then tell them to vote in the primaries. Whoever wins the primary fair and square is who we vote for to defeat Trump. If Biden wins the nomination that means the base of the party wanted Joe, not Bernie.
Wanna know what the difference between racist MAGA fans are and you if you don't vote for the Democrat in the general?
NOTHING.
The blood of the children who will die in camps at the border in a Trump second term will be on your hands. Abortion rights being destroyed because Trump gets to replace RBG will your fault. And you will have to live with that shame and blame the rest of your life. Think about that.
Like his chances?
Trump mops the floor with him in the general😂
And how would we be privvy to the particulars of this? If it happened it most certainly happened quietly I would think.
It definitely will. Biden is going to get the nom, and Trump is going to crush him. Democrats will never learn, and in 4 years, they'll pull the same shit trying to run corporate moderates again, and get crushed, again. This country is too stupid to elect anybody who will actually make things better. I hope you're all prepared for Republican fascism for the rest of your lives.
the fact that american media keeps reporting this instead of the real issues the country has ... oh my
Staff is fired publicly all the time, especially when someone needs to take a fall.
Also, there are tons of reporters flying around these campaigns like flies. They'd know if someone was let go. And they would connect the dots. Especially with this being such a 'big' story.
IDGAF. I have no confidence in anyone who's running atm. Even less so for the ego trains that threaten to derail this entire election.
That's normal for anything related to Bernie, he's never done anything wrong and anyone against him is the worst.
Sanders will never own up to his mistakes and that's why he's a bad candidate and will lose, he was never going to win even if some wanna blindly follow him.
it would not. If this was some rogue leak the campaign would have said so, distanced itself, and said so publicly. Instead they're doubling down and Essentially calling Sandere a liar. Nothing about how this has played out is consistent with your unauthorized leaker theory.
If a source inside a campaign leaks to a reporter and then is fired the reporter will put two and two together.
i am very tired and have not slept tonight so I can only say that you've given me something to think about
Yeah the guy who asked her to run in sixteen doesn't think she can win lol ok.
Warren stans i swear
Imagine thinking that any part of this shit is more important than what either of these candidates could do to benefit this country while in office
This whole thing is a fucking embarrassment
And if this is what is moving the needle for you as far as where your vote should go than you should be embarrassed too
This whole thing is a fucking embarrassment
And if this is what is moving the needle for you as far as where your vote should go than you should be embarrassed too
This whole thing from the Warren campaign is desperate and pathetic. Extremely disappointed in her as a candidate.
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