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Warren Refuses to Shake Bernie’s Hand After Debate, Bernie Throws Up Hands After They Speak
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Literally the first time I've wanted Tom Steyer to weigh in on anything at all.
Also, Warren is a liar and I didn't think she was dumb enough to pull this.
Also, Warren is a liar and I didn't think she was dumb enough to pull this.
Refusing the handshake seems like a bit of a stretch by the reporter (this is a very common stance/hand holding by Warren as far as I remember). But otherwise...yeah that seems like a disagreement right there.
Holy shit, his reaction is amazing. He just wrote SNL's skit for them.
He did, he said he didn't hear what they were discussing and was just trying to say goodnight.
This is really just one persons word against the other
we can't claim to know who the actual liar is.
we can't claim to know who the actual liar is.
Since the start of the campaigns, Warren has been saying Sanders is her partner in crime, her closest friend in the Senate, her compatriot in pursuing meaningful change. Warren went from that to refusing to shake Sanders' hand over an issue that apparently happened over a year ago. It took less than two days of news cycle. Is the mere fact that an issue she'd apparently dismissed a year ago now becoming public forcing her to react a certain way? Or is this a planned effort?
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He hasn't said anything specific yet but it sure sounds like he thought it was a tense exchange
He's just not a snitch. He heard it, or at least enough of it :P
The only things I can make out from the clip are really obvious - Bernie is surprised by what she initially said or maybe just didn't hear it ("What?") and then at one point motions back and forth between them and says "You and me".
Anybody who actually knows how to lip read want to weigh in?
Anybody who actually knows how to lip read want to weigh in?
This was always going to happen sooner or later. They can't both be the democratic nominee. It's a shame it has to be such a bitter breakup though.
This was probably some benign "we need to talk later in private" or some shit.
Liz was 100% in the right to refuse the handshake. Bernie and his campaign have handled this horribly.
I believe Warren.
I believe Warren.
Obviously you believe the man. It's absurd, after all, that a man would ever question a woman's ability to lead. That would imply that the patriarchal system is inherently sexist or something.
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Yeah, that was kind of unprofessional, IMO.
What Bernie said was bad, but she could've handled it better. Hillary had handled her loss in an unprofessional matter back in 2016 as well after the election.
Yeah Bernie handling of the whole thing has been pretty gross.
In the past few weeks, we've had
Bernie walk back his promise to release his full post heart attack evaluation.
Bernie say the anti-warren pamphlet was not him yet it went out to two states suggesting it came from staff involved at a high level in his national campaign
Bernie supporting Cenk then walking back the endorsement because Cenk wanted Bernie not to suffer in optics from him rather than because Bernie doesn't support his misogyny
Bernie lying about suggesting a woman can't beat Trump.
Bernie walk back his promise to release his full post heart attack evaluation.
Bernie say the anti-warren pamphlet was not him yet it went out to two states suggesting it came from staff involved at a high level in his national campaign
Bernie supporting Cenk then walking back the endorsement because Cenk wanted Bernie not to suffer in optics from him rather than because Bernie doesn't support his misogyny
Bernie lying about suggesting a woman can't beat Trump.
Oh this says everything. That's all I needed to know to know if he did it or not lol.
The disputed conversation's three sides are that Bernie either told Warren a woman can't win, told Warren it would be difficult for a woman to win because of sexism, or didn't tell her a woman couldn't win at all. Nobody, even Warren's team, said that Bernie "questioned a woman's ability to lead", and he's been saying for decades that a woman can be president, and he pushed her to run in 2015.
That's why nobody knows what's going on!
Isnt that a bit disingenuous? They both know that men are very capable of doing that, and this isnt about those men. This is about Bernie.
The questions worth asking are whether you genuinely believe that Bernie thinks a woman cant win the presidency, and whether Warren thinks that Bernie thinks that.
If Warren's only point was "look I know Bernie doesnt *actually* think that, but I do recall him saying it" then this is, indeed, a fucking terrible thing to be talking about.
Most people still think Biden and the other clowns are a good pick.
This Sanders/warren feud is going to be real ugly though
I don't know who is telling the truth.
But I feel like this feud is going to lead to Biden winning the nomination.
But I feel like this feud is going to lead to Biden winning the nomination.
We're one 86 year old's death away from abortion being banned, voting rights being rolled back, and progressive reform being dead in the water. Who the fuck cares about this.
oh boy....looks like Biden is going to get it for sure then.
The Warren and Sanders camp are about to enter a civil war just as planned by the corporate media.
Billionaires: "You fell for it."
The Warren and Sanders camp are about to enter a civil war just as planned by the corporate media.
Billionaires: "You fell for it."
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