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She shouldn't have done this

WASHINGTON — Senator Elizabeth Warren has released a DNA test that provides "strong evidence'' she had a Native American in her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations, an unprecedented move by one of the top possible contenders for the 2020 Democratic nomination for president.

Warren, whose claims to Native American blood have been mocked by President Trump and other Republicans, provided the test results to the Globe on Sunday in an effort to defuse questions about her ancestry that have persisted for years. She planned an elaborate rollout Monday of the results as she aimed for widespread attention.

The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warren's critics. If her great-great-great-grandmother was Native American, that puts her at 1/32nd American Indian. But the report includes the possibility that she's just 1/1024th Native American if the ancestor is 10 generations back.

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ANOTHER EDIT:

Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 10th generation relative. It should be 1/1,024.
 
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Hoo-doo

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This would undercut a shitton of Trump mockery about her being scared to do a DNA test, but instead he'll just target the actual results instead.
 

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This is playing right into these asshole's hands. I can't help but feel that this won't help her one bit. The damage was already done and now they have more fodder.
 

Templeusox

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I feel like she should have stayed above the fray. Let him be racist, accurate or inaccurate.
 

DevilMayGuy

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Whoops

So now you face the possibility that Trump was right in mocking the potentially very minimal Native American influence on her family tree. 1/32 isn't even enough to get a scholarship in many places.

He was always going to latch onto something to attack you; don't play into his hands.
 

Replicant

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Bad move on her part of this report is true. I really wish she would stop considering running and hopefully she doesn't. I like her, but man she just doesn't have what it takes to go up against Republicans at this point.
 

Hoo-doo

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She could run on a platform of absolute transparency. Depends on how many skeletons she has in her closet still.

Would be a ridiculous contrast to Trump and his ever shrinking palace built on lies.
 

Dierce

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So fucking dumb. Why do democrats give into republican bullshit demands. Especially coming from someone as progressive as her.
 

Fallout-NL

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Yeah, 1/32 is hardly significant. It's the kind of shit that gets played for a cheap laugh in films and sitcoms.
 

mutantmagnet

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Thinking it over it makes sense to release this. Even some liberals throw shade at white looking people for making use of their native american ancestry to get certain benefits in college. Even though they hate Trump in the back of their minds they would be annoyed with Warren as well due to their predispositions.



OTOH If Warren primarily did this to undercut Trump himself among his fanbase that is a mistake. She instead should be attacking his tax dodging inheritance and insinuate eventually he's going to pay all those taxes and give them back to the people including his fanbase.
 

sangreal

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Next you're going to tell me Obama released his college transcripts. The people this is for aren't arguing in good faith in the first place. They wouldn't have given a shit if this showed she had native ties but they will certainly give a shit now that it shows she doesn't
 

JealousKenny

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I don't understand what she thought this would accomplish. 1/512 percent Native American. She just validated Trump to a large portion of this country.
 

ElectricBlanketFire

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Xx 720

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This will probably backfire but in fairness, she does have some in her, she didn't lie
 

TyrantII

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In politics if you're explaining, you're losing.

You need to set up your own frame of debate, stick to it, and define the rules imposed on the other side.

Defense isn't a good offense in the political landscape.
 

Masoyama

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She is supposed to be one of the best hopes for Democrats? Lol, that's so fucked
 

BrokenFiction

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My kids are 3/256 Choctaw and are members of the tribe and can vote in the tribe when 18. They're also 1/16 Cherokee but not members.

He would mock her no matter what. What this does is instill pride for NAs and push back on his racist ass.
 

Tito

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So between 0,2% and 3% of native American blood.

I can't imagine how this could backfire.
 

VariantX

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This is stupid. She could be 1/4 th or 1/8th and it wouldn't change trumps tune on this. Now he has a number to point to in his mockery. I mean shit, you're never getting his tax returns what good does it do you at this point to give him this?
 

Window

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Despite what people may say I think this was a good move. People will care less about her flub to claim NA ancestry if it's out in the open vs constantly questioning why she doesn't be reveal the truth. Any subsequent attacks will be a lot less effective.