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Washington Post: Obama met with Beto about running in 2020
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After last election "are you good at running a campaign" is a pretty high priority for me in a candidate :)
Yep. The most progressive candidate in the world doesn't do anyone any good if they can't actually win the general election. Despite his loss to Cruz, the signs are all pointing to Beto being the candidate that's great at running a campaign and energize the base.
He also swept a lot of Democrats into office in down-ballot races.
It's worth noting a bad governor race hurt Beto
Abbott actually intentionally ran a low key campaign because they found out groups of his voters would ticket split for Beto
Abbott actually intentionally ran a low key campaign because they found out groups of his voters would ticket split for Beto
Centrist? How do you figure?
EDIT: Not that it would even be a bad thing. But I don't think he is.
I have a really bad feeling about this. Cruz's general election strategies were a joke, Beto ran a pretty localized campaign, and Texas is a terrible route to 270 in the electoral college.
Maybe if he can prove his national appeal in the primary race I'd feel better, but not if establishment gives him a leg up like they did for Hillary.
Maybe if he can prove his national appeal in the primary race I'd feel better, but not if establishment gives him a leg up like they did for Hillary.
You all do realize that it is 2018 still, right? No one is on the ticket.
You realize he's been a US Representative for TX-16 since 2013, right? He actually has more national level experience than Barack Obama, and also served more than one term in that national office.
What's your point? I don't see how any of those statements implied that.
The worrying about Beto possibly running.
1. It hasn't happened
2. He would be a million times better than Trump.
Why do people throw all logic, context and reason just to get pessimistic edge points?
If this is the best thing you can say about your centrist candidate you might as well not say anything at all lol.
Do we really need to say "worth voting for over trump" in every single criticism of a Democratic Primary candidate?
Then why do you focus on his critics when everyone here is talking about his potential 2020 campaign because that's litterally what this topic is about?
Every rich dem donor and the centrist wing of the party has been pushing for this man very hard in the last few weeks. Tons of articles about how they're all very excited for him. Right now he certainly seems to be the candidate that centrist dems are rallying behind.
In Texas, a red state, in which it would ordinarily never be that close.
That's like saying if Obama lost to Ted Cruz for Texas Senator, he shouldn't have run for president.
He broke Texas from full Red to a tossup state Cruz won 56% in 2012, Trump won 52.3% in 2016 and down to 50.9% in 2018. That's insane for one candidate.
Because they don't want this candidacy happening, because they're either on the far right or left.
The trolling bad faith stuff on this started full force a week ago from the left side.
Beto knows how to campaign. Other presidential candidates and their supporters are rightfully terrified of him running.
I'd be willing to take almost anyone over Trump. Beto could win. Thats pretty much all that matters at this point is getting Trump out. That said, I really like Beto. I'd get his back over anyone else I've seen.
That attempt of a smear against Beto from a *certain* part of the progressive base today made me like Beto even more. I hadn't actually looked into where his donations came from, but seeing him being supported by people from practically every single sector is pretty impressive.
And for being a Texas Democrat, his legislative record isn't that spooky, centrist-wise.
But, that won't stop a lot of Bernie supporters from trying to torpedo Beto as he gains momentum. It's going to be Beto's first real test. Not just winning over Bernie supporters but locking down quickly support from the Hillary coalition as well (older Latinos, African-Americans, older women). Judging by how well he resonated with black Democrats in Texas, I say he at least doesn't have to fear any competition from Bernie there, but Kamala and Booker might help Bernie in that respect, by taking away Beto's possible strength among black voters and suburban women.
Oh boy, here we go, 2020.
And for being a Texas Democrat, his legislative record isn't that spooky, centrist-wise.
But, that won't stop a lot of Bernie supporters from trying to torpedo Beto as he gains momentum. It's going to be Beto's first real test. Not just winning over Bernie supporters but locking down quickly support from the Hillary coalition as well (older Latinos, African-Americans, older women). Judging by how well he resonated with black Democrats in Texas, I say he at least doesn't have to fear any competition from Bernie there, but Kamala and Booker might help Bernie in that respect, by taking away Beto's possible strength among black voters and suburban women.
Oh boy, here we go, 2020.
I like Bernie. I also like Beto.
I have no qualms with either.
purity tests are pointless at this point. whats more important is that we get someone with enough charisma and popularity to take out the trash that occupies the WH come election day. we can worry about the finer details AFTER we take out the traitorous swine and his stooge pence.
I have no qualms with either.
purity tests are pointless at this point. whats more important is that we get someone with enough charisma and popularity to take out the trash that occupies the WH come election day. we can worry about the finer details AFTER we take out the traitorous swine and his stooge pence.
And Beto served in national public office 6 years compared to Barack Obama's 3, so the experience question is a moot one.
Why don't black voters vote for Bernie? I would have thought that his socialist policies for the middle class and lower income groups would resonate more with them than Hilary. Bernie's anti-poverty initiatives, raising minimum wage etc. would seem like it specifically helps minority groups.
Because they see the groundswell of support of him from the grassroots. It's not the other way around. Are we already revising history here? It's so darn early to do that already.
This isnt aimed at you in particular btw but this needs to be said to remind others in this thread: Do. Not. Do. The. Job. Of. The. Republicans.
Its the third one in like a week.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/be...l-the-drugs-african-american-”-read-op.34423/
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So it's because he holds racist views against African Americans? Do black voters think that Hilary and Beto don't hold racist views or do they think these people just cover up their racism better?
Has Hilary done anything with respect to prison reform or started any anti-poverty initiatives? What about this statement of hers:
Pretty much all these white people are going to hold racist views. But the fact remains that Bernie's socialist policies would still be more helpful to minorities and lower income groups, single women, the middle class etc. So why not vote for him because his policies would help them? Is that not what is more important? Muslim Americans voted for Bernie because of his non-interventionist foreign policy that would lead to less blowing up of the middle east, less terrorism and hence less Islamophobia. We don't attack them and they don't attack us. Muslim-Americans understand that unlike the so called white liberal democrats who support Hillary Clinton because she's not racist.
Take Hillary Clinton - A war monger who does not give two shits about all the brown people she blows up in the middle east - she basically destroyed Libya and then tells Europe to stop letting in the refugees she bloody created with her policies as secretary of state. But if given the choice between Hillary and Trump, would not all the people here vote for Hillary? People overlook her murderous foreign policy because her policies in the US are progressive and more liberal than what Trump offers. Why not apply the same concept to Bernie? Yeah, he's a racist, old white man. But what he is proposing would benefit lower income groups, single mothers (of whom a large proportion are black in the US), possibly raise the minimum wage, help with better health care etc. Should that not be what is important for black voters?
If Beto offers the same progressive policies that Bernie is and proves to not hold racist views then yeah, I would say go for him. But several people here have called him centrist. Which ....yeah. Same old same old as Obama and Clinton.
Just what we need, more centrism. It'll be hilarious when the libs will vote for him expecting Single Payer or Free College when he voted against both. But he skateboarded at Whataburger so of course he should be president. If our dying planet doesn't cook us all alive we may even get a second term out of him.
really showing your ass by asking this question like there weren't countless think pieces written about this specific subject (most recently this one by the AP that mentions his total lack of black outreach, still, beyond a handful of mayors he likes)
and then launching off into a full-page relitigation post that absolutely nobody's gonna fuckin' read let alone break down
not because anyone particularly wants to defend her superpredator comments from the mid-1990s but because she's functionally irrelevant to anything being discussed, much like half of the rest of your posting history in political threads
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To be fair, that's part of why he has been so ineffective at ruining the country. With a Republican House and Senate for 2 years all he accomplished was ripping up Executive Agency regulations and a shitty tax bill that just helped Republicans lose the House in one of the most historic swings in history. Someone experienced and competent would have done a lot more damage to be honest.
Explain to me how Beto is a centerist. He's further left than Bernie on several issues important to the Democratic base—racial issues and gun control being big ones.
Read my post, he's against single payer and free college. Not to mention he voted for continuing to sending money to Israel which is the farthest thing from the left you can vote for.
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