By a slim margin.He lost by less to Cruz in Texas then McCaskill did to Hawley in Missouri. No one predicted that kind of performance
In fucking Texas.
By a slim margin.He lost by less to Cruz in Texas then McCaskill did to Hawley in Missouri. No one predicted that kind of performance
After last election "are you good at running a campaign" is a pretty high priority for me in a candidate :)Is there anything particular anyone here actually likes about Beto in terms of policies that make them prefer him over other candidates, or is it mostly just tentative support/excitement over his ground game abilities?
After last election "are you good at running a campaign" is a pretty high priority for me in a candidate :)
He almost didn't lose to Ted Cruz in TEXAS. That's substantial
Dems really wanna play themselves again, rallying around Beto, huh? Another centrist dem with a personal fortune and tons of corporate money (no, not PAC, but still corporate). Hard pass.
Dems really wanna play themselves again, rallying around Beto, huh? Another centrist dem with a personal fortune and tons of corporate money (no, not PAC, but still corporate). Hard pass.
I have a really bad feeling about this. Cruz's general election strategies were a joke, Beto ran a pretty localized campaign, and Texas is a terrible route to 270 in the electoral college.
Maybe if he can prove his national appeal in the primary race I'd feel better, but not if establishment gives him a leg up like they did for Hillary.
You all do realize that it is 2018 still, right? No one is on the ticket.Ah yes, meeting with Obama the coward empty suit who got us into this situation in the first place. I'm sure Beto learned a lot about how to please the 1% and how to maintain the status quo.
You realize he's been a US Representative for TX-16 since 2013, right? He actually has more national level experience than Barack Obama, and also served more than one term in that national office.No. I think he has a future and he'll be a successful Presidential candidate EVENTUALLY, but I don't think 2020 is the time. Dude needs to get more experience.
What's your point? I don't see how any of those statements implied that.You all do realize that it is 2018 still, right? No one is on the ticket.
The worrying about Beto possibly running.What's your point? I don't see how any of those statements implied that.
Why do people throw all logic, context and reason just to get pessimistic edge points?
The worrying about Beto possibly running.
1. It hasn't happened
2. He would be a million times better than Trump.
He isn't even a candidate!If this is the best thing you can say about your centrist candidate you might as well not say anything at all lol.
Do we really need to say "worth voting for over trump" in every single criticism of a Democratic Primary candidate?The worrying about Beto possibly running.
1. It hasn't happened
2. He would be a million times better than Trump.
Then why do you focus on his critics when everyone here is talking about his potential 2020 campaign because that's litterally what this topic is about?
In Texas, a red state, in which it would ordinarily never be that close.
You must not know how things work in Texas
Because they don't want this candidacy happening, because they're either on the far right or left.Why do people throw all logic, context and reason just to get pessimistic edge points?
And Beto served in national public office 6 years compared to Barack Obama's 3, so the experience question is a moot one.experience shouldn't be an issue, Trump had zero years of public service
Why don't black voters vote for Bernie? I would have thought that his socialist policies for the middle class and lower income groups would resonate more with them than Hilary. Bernie's anti-poverty initiatives, raising minimum wage etc. would seem like it specifically helps minority groups.It's going to be Beto's first real test. Not just winning over Bernie supporters but locking down quickly support from the Hillary coalition as well (older Latinos, African-Americans, older women). Judging by how well he resonated with black Democrats in Texas, I say he at least doesn't have to fear any competition from Bernie there, but Kamala and Booker might help Bernie in that respect, by taking away Beto's possible strength among black voters and suburban women.
Is this a serious post?If this is the best thing you can say about your centrist candidate you might as well not say anything at all lol.
Because they see the groundswell of support of him from the grassroots. It's not the other way around. Are we already revising history here? It's so darn early to do that already.Every rich dem donor and the centrist wing of the party has been pushing for this man very hard in the last few weeks. Tons of articles about how they're all very excited for him. Right now he certainly seems to be the candidate that centrist dems are rallying behind.
Its the third one in like a week.That attempt of a smear against Beto from a *certain* part of the progressive base today made me like Beto even more. I hadn't actually looked into where his donations came from, but seeing him being supported by people from practically every single sector is pretty impressive.
And for being a Texas Democrat, his legislative record isn't that spooky, centrist-wise.
But, that won't stop a lot of Bernie supporters from trying to torpedo Beto as he gains momentum. It's going to be Beto's first real test. Not just winning over Bernie supporters but locking down quickly support from the Hillary coalition as well (older Latinos, African-Americans, older women). Judging by how well he resonated with black Democrats in Texas, I say he at least doesn't have to fear any competition from Bernie there, but Kamala and Booker might help Bernie in that respect, by taking away Beto's possible strength among black voters and suburban women.
Oh boy, here we go, 2020.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/be...l-the-drugs-african-american-”-read-op.34423/Why don't black voters vote for Bernie? I would have thought that his socialist policies for the middle class and lower income groups would resonate more with them than Hilary. Bernie's anti-poverty initiatives, raising minimum wage etc. would seem like it specifically helps minority groups.
"We need to take these people on, they are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators. No conscience. No empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel," Clinton said in 1996.
I guess he's the 2nd best option now that the lawyer guy is out...
Beta O'RourkeWould Trump call him Baby Beto or would it be something like R'ittle Robert?
really showing your ass by asking this question like there weren't countless think pieces written about this specific subject (most recently this one by the AP that mentions his total lack of black outreach, still, beyond a handful of mayors he likes)
His travel itinerary has been void of state and local party galas where lower-level party players are accustomed to welcoming would-be presidents. Clinton attended such events for decades, and by her presidential campaigns often could call several attendees by name.
"We haven't heard from him at all," said Alabama's Joe Reed, who leads an influential black caucus within his state's party.
Georgia's Nikema Williams, her state party's vice chairwoman and a first-term state senator, said the same. Sanders came to Atlanta last year to campaign for a black mayoral candidate who ultimately lost, but didn't reach beyond Vincent Fort's campaign circle.
As a comparison, Williams said Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a possible 2020 candidate, called to congratulate her after her election. "It struck me that she'd be calling a new state senator in Georgia," Williams said.
Sanders answered that he doesn't need "the establishment," regardless of race, and said most voters are "estranged" from the two-party system anyway.
As with Sanders' comments on Obama, some of the rub is as much about emphasis as substance. Seated with Lumumba, the senator was asked about the marginalization of black LGBTQ citizens. He shifted the question to people "you didn't talk about" like "people working two or three jobs" and "people who spend 50 percent of their limited income on housing." He repeatedly turned discussion of fighting racism to fighting poverty.
"If all I hear about is 'the working class,' and it seems he's talking to just one segment, then it's easy to feel he's not talking to me," said Williams, the Georgia Democrat, explaining that she cannot "separate my blackness" from where she fits in the economy.
experience shouldn't be an issue, Trump had zero years of public service
Just what we need, more centrism. It'll be hilarious when the libs will vote for him expecting Single Payer or Free College when he voted against both. But he skateboarded at Whataburger so of course he should be president. If our dying planet doesn't cook us all alive we may even get a second term out of him.
Read my post, he's against single payer and free college. Not to mention he voted for continuing to sending money to Israel which is the farthest thing from the left you can vote for.To be fair, that's part of why he has been so ineffective at ruining the country. With a Republican House and Senate for 2 years all he accomplished was ripping up Executive Agency regulations and a shitty tax bill that just helped Republicans lose the House in one of the most historic swings in history. Someone experienced and competent would have done a lot more damage to be honest.
Explain to me how Beto is a centerist. He's further left than Bernie on several issues important to the Democratic base—racial issues and gun control being big ones.