I can't say that my expectations were high, but my thinking was that GT would probably be most like the Z movies. Overly derivative, maybe a bit more generic and formula, but still having a lot of cool action sequences. Instead, the thing that struck me most is just how dedicated the show seemed to be to making sure every character that isn't Kid Goku fails to impress.
Pan is introduced fighting crime, then spends three quarters of the series crying. It's like they took Videl, but instead of just benching her, they drag her out into the open so you're constantly reminded of how useless she's become.
The "why does everyone suck" question doesn't even really apply here because the producer said outright that Pan's role is for Goku to save her.
Trunks is really just aggressively mediocre. He's set up as the smart guy and does some smart guy stuff, but then he becomes one of Baby's victims and the show kind of forgets about him. I can barely remember anything he did by the end.
General Rilldo is probably the character that gets the best moments in the series just because of his fight as Meta-Rilldo. He's got an interesting power set as a Dragonball villain. But it's like the show just gets bored of him, so it just skips the conclusion of the fight with him and moves on. Everyone goes to see Baby's introduction even though Rilldo's still farting around outside. Then he gets blown away in two seconds while they're going on to the next planet.
This man doesn't even get himself involved in the main plotline and he still dies. He spends all his time getting nagged by his wife and kid, and then he gets killed by his brother-in-law.
As the reincarnation of Dragonball Z's ultimate villain and seemingly possessing his power, it seems like a fair assumption that Uub would be one of the most powerful members of the group. He trains with Goku at the beginning, but only gets his first real fight in the Baby saga... where he's immediately defeated and has to fuse because he's already irrelevant. Then he ends up getting his attack reversed and turned into candy, but it's okay because he told us he meant to do that afterward.
Honestly, I kind of like the SSJ4 design, so I was a little hyped to see it. I think this form did well against Baby Vegeta? I barely even remember. But then then Baby Vegeta turns into a Great Ape and it becomes a big dragged out stalemate, and SSJ4 Goku gets beaten so badly that he needs his friends to give him a Saiya Power infusion. That in itself wouldn't be too bad, but the form goes on to lose against just about every other villain, including a member of the jobber squad (Rage Shenron).
Super 17's brief period of success seems to be entirely based on the fact that SSJ4 Goku is too stupid to stop using ki attacks on him even after he's realized that they don't work. He ends up getting killed by one punch-kamehameha combo from base form Kid Goku when Android 16 distracts him for a minute. If I haven't miscounted, he only survives for four episodes.
One things I knew going in was that Vegeta gets a new signature move. I can dig it; in the manga Vegeta never calls the same move twice, so I think this is one area where GT is an outright better successor series than Super. Except the show can't resist its urge to make everything suck, so after being sidelined or possessed for half the show, Vegeta shows off a new move and it doesn't even work. He comes back the next arc after his wife builds him a machine so he can gameshark his way to the latest Super Saiyan form, except he has to suggest fusion right away because his new form's already irrelevant.
He gets wrecked early on in his fight, which doesn't help, but most of it is okay. The way he's finally totally defeated deserves special mention though. A battle-weary Kid Goku charges up a Spirit Bomb and throws it at him. Okay, the Spirit Bomb is a powerful move and it's defeated villains before, that much isn't unusual. But it also has a huge glaringly obvious weakness in that Goku needs to hold himself in a position where he's completely defenseless for a while in order to use it. Omega Shenron somehow can't overcome this problem. He isn't being distracted by anyone else, he isn't too worn out to fight, his attacks just inexplicably don't work. He's attacking a defenseless, injured child and can't pull it off.
shit sandwich
Pan is introduced fighting crime, then spends three quarters of the series crying. It's like they took Videl, but instead of just benching her, they drag her out into the open so you're constantly reminded of how useless she's become.
The "why does everyone suck" question doesn't even really apply here because the producer said outright that Pan's role is for Goku to save her.
Trunks is really just aggressively mediocre. He's set up as the smart guy and does some smart guy stuff, but then he becomes one of Baby's victims and the show kind of forgets about him. I can barely remember anything he did by the end.
General Rilldo is probably the character that gets the best moments in the series just because of his fight as Meta-Rilldo. He's got an interesting power set as a Dragonball villain. But it's like the show just gets bored of him, so it just skips the conclusion of the fight with him and moves on. Everyone goes to see Baby's introduction even though Rilldo's still farting around outside. Then he gets blown away in two seconds while they're going on to the next planet.
This man doesn't even get himself involved in the main plotline and he still dies. He spends all his time getting nagged by his wife and kid, and then he gets killed by his brother-in-law.
As the reincarnation of Dragonball Z's ultimate villain and seemingly possessing his power, it seems like a fair assumption that Uub would be one of the most powerful members of the group. He trains with Goku at the beginning, but only gets his first real fight in the Baby saga... where he's immediately defeated and has to fuse because he's already irrelevant. Then he ends up getting his attack reversed and turned into candy, but it's okay because he told us he meant to do that afterward.
Honestly, I kind of like the SSJ4 design, so I was a little hyped to see it. I think this form did well against Baby Vegeta? I barely even remember. But then then Baby Vegeta turns into a Great Ape and it becomes a big dragged out stalemate, and SSJ4 Goku gets beaten so badly that he needs his friends to give him a Saiya Power infusion. That in itself wouldn't be too bad, but the form goes on to lose against just about every other villain, including a member of the jobber squad (Rage Shenron).
Super 17's brief period of success seems to be entirely based on the fact that SSJ4 Goku is too stupid to stop using ki attacks on him even after he's realized that they don't work. He ends up getting killed by one punch-kamehameha combo from base form Kid Goku when Android 16 distracts him for a minute. If I haven't miscounted, he only survives for four episodes.
One things I knew going in was that Vegeta gets a new signature move. I can dig it; in the manga Vegeta never calls the same move twice, so I think this is one area where GT is an outright better successor series than Super. Except the show can't resist its urge to make everything suck, so after being sidelined or possessed for half the show, Vegeta shows off a new move and it doesn't even work. He comes back the next arc after his wife builds him a machine so he can gameshark his way to the latest Super Saiyan form, except he has to suggest fusion right away because his new form's already irrelevant.
He gets wrecked early on in his fight, which doesn't help, but most of it is okay. The way he's finally totally defeated deserves special mention though. A battle-weary Kid Goku charges up a Spirit Bomb and throws it at him. Okay, the Spirit Bomb is a powerful move and it's defeated villains before, that much isn't unusual. But it also has a huge glaringly obvious weakness in that Goku needs to hold himself in a position where he's completely defenseless for a while in order to use it. Omega Shenron somehow can't overcome this problem. He isn't being distracted by anyone else, he isn't too worn out to fight, his attacks just inexplicably don't work. He's attacking a defenseless, injured child and can't pull it off.
shit sandwich
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