The issue is that unless Lindeloff gets the bug again, this is it for him and Watchmen, and I would rather have his vision for him than another showrunner.
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Watchmen |OT| This is the Moment
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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The issue is that unless Lindeloff gets the bug again, this is it for him and Watchmen, and I would rather have his vision for him than another showrunner.
So far I don't think it is in the same way but that's not the point. It's still an easter egg laden, cryptically dense follow up for the obsessive fan to a story that Moore didn't want.
Oh I am sure Moore hates the idea of it and wouldn't like it if he saw it. But not because it's some love letter to superheroes. It isn't.
Moore himself *did* a lot of comics which were love letters to superheroes himself, as a sort of atonement for how most comics went overly grim after Watchmen.
1 criticism about the show is NOT ENOUGH PANDA!
Never have me and the main character been in sync when angela said that.
I love her. So happy she's getting this platform. She is amazing and has always been.
Mostly, I just really hope the wacky adventures of the man formerly known as Ozymandias lead to somewhere... that matters. At all. Because it seems increasingly likely that it's just an excuse for absurd vignettes while the circumstances leading to it are s l o w l y explained over the course of the season.
I liked the Ozy stuff at first but it's way too much now. Just get on with it.
I liked the Ozy stuff at first but it's way too much now. Just get on with it.
It's obviously the black freighter analogue, which similarly had no immediately obvious point or link to the rest of the plot until the end where it was explicitly tied to the themes of the book.
Last week, after having watched episode 3, I had this weird thought:
There was a strange scene transition between with Veidt and the senator...
So, could the senator be related to Veidt, could he be his son?
There was a strange scene transition between with Veidt and the senator...
So, could the senator be related to Veidt, could he be his son?
No, the senator's father is the former senator that wrote the bill outlawing masked vigilante's during the 70s, who was also likely a Klan member that knew Judd's father.
Everything relating to Jon is way more interesting in the (in my case) motion comic, yeah. Blows the movie out of the water.
This has been my favorite thing Lindolof's done up to this episode.
Lindelof tends to annoy me as a writer because, to me, his penchant for mystery-box plots tends to hide overambitious (and sometime just plain lazy) storytelling. It often doesn't seem like he has an end goal in mind, so he gives you a little bit of everything, and whatever the endgame consensus is that's most flattering to his story...well, that was the point all along!
But I've said to friends I watch this show with, Watchmen is the first thing I've watched by Lindelof that actually felt like it was going somewhere. There's a ton of mystery, but the narrative feels tight, like this is all going to matter in the end.
Until this episode.
I like that they didn't waste time with Lady Trieu's character and establishing where she fits in with the other characters. But the mystery is starting to feel overly obfuscated just to keep the audience in the dark (which, to me, is Lindelof at his worst), which made the conversation between Trieu and Will pretty hilarious and meta.
And I'm already tired of Veidt. So he's in a prison. That much is obvious. Why the hell should we care? We were introduced to a new character this episode and already have a better grasp of her purpose for the story than Veidt, who's just been doing a different version of the same thing for 3 episodes now. Get on with it.
Lindelof tends to annoy me as a writer because, to me, his penchant for mystery-box plots tends to hide overambitious (and sometime just plain lazy) storytelling. It often doesn't seem like he has an end goal in mind, so he gives you a little bit of everything, and whatever the endgame consensus is that's most flattering to his story...well, that was the point all along!
But I've said to friends I watch this show with, Watchmen is the first thing I've watched by Lindelof that actually felt like it was going somewhere. There's a ton of mystery, but the narrative feels tight, like this is all going to matter in the end.
Until this episode.
I like that they didn't waste time with Lady Trieu's character and establishing where she fits in with the other characters. But the mystery is starting to feel overly obfuscated just to keep the audience in the dark (which, to me, is Lindelof at his worst), which made the conversation between Trieu and Will pretty hilarious and meta.
And I'm already tired of Veidt. So he's in a prison. That much is obvious. Why the hell should we care? We were introduced to a new character this episode and already have a better grasp of her purpose for the story than Veidt, who's just been doing a different version of the same thing for 3 episodes now. Get on with it.
According to reports from journalists and reviewers who have seen up to episode 6, episode 5 is when a lot of things get clearly explained. I can't wait, though I'm more than happy to go along with the ride. With how amazing Leftovers was from start to finish, and with Lindelof repeatedly definitively stating that basically all the mysteries get answered by the end of this 9 episode miniseries, I have utter faith that he (and his writers room and everyone else involved with the crew), will deliver.
We have nine episodes. I was intrigued at first, but now his story just getting a bit...ok come on now.
Fair enough, but I'm withholding judgement until the end on the chance it all pays spectacularly.
Eh he's done a different thing each episode that has revealed something new about his situation and his mind set.
Given that the Veidt scenes were all the first stuff shot for weather reasons before they had a chance to script out the rest of the series, I believe they have an endgame in mind where it all ties into everything eventually.
Just that we start to see Trieu's tie to Veidt (by buying his company and having a statue to the currently aged version of him) as well as how she knows Will makes me think that we'll see how things connect sooner than later.
I don't either but my 70ish parents both started watching this before I did and they had never heard of the comic and could care less about comics in general, my dad was a huge lost fan though. I told them about the basic ideas in the comic and told my dad "Veidt is kinda like Lex Luthor and I don't know what's going on with him either". They're still very on board.
Say what you will about Veidt's plan to kill millions, it provided a convenient way for this guy to get out of a potentially very embarrassing situation.
Am I the only one who half expected him to drive some old beater instead of a modern vehicle.
The worse thing about Blake when your sitting across from her is you know she's right on the money with what shes saying.
So they're going with the theory on Hooded Justice being gay huh. There was no if he was or not aside from the Comedian making a quip once.