Definitely. There are lot of complaints can make about this show and if you want to complain about thematic execution, cool, but the idea that the racial commentary was in anyway half-hearted or tacked-on is so obviously ridiculous that it's not even worth taking seriously as a statementEven if we didn't have any of the huge Dr. Manhattan plot twist, I think focusing on this world and the way racism plays a huge role would have still been an interesting show. The racism feels relevant and makes certain aspects of the show feel more personal to me. It doesn't feel forced, it feels grounded.
So what do you guys think: is Veidt Trieu's dad and is he the thing that fell out of the sky on the farmland she bought? Did Looking Glass swipen that one missing Rorschach mask and is he now undercover in 7K?
I can imagine Veidt being 'cast back' to Earth; he crashes in a capsule or something similar, Trieu is 'in' on the plan somehow. She captures him. He is in a form of stasis. Trieu actually keeps him around as a living statue :P
I probably did the Jack Nicholson headnod in real life, and Laurie's eyeroll was perfect.When I heard the line from Keene, "Its hard to be a white man these days", I got a fucking huge grin because you know there are motherfuckers who think that. Man the balls to make your villain practically an alt-right incel.
I was wondering about the low ratings for that game on Xbox Live Marketplace the other day, and it turns out it was review bombed by alt-right snowflakes for being "too political" and "leftist propaganda."I love how hard they're leaning into making the 7K just the most loathesome alt-right shitheads. Reminds me of the Nazi-punching stuff from the Wolfenstein ads. Fuck those people and their feelings.
Well that's because it is. It's a show made for an audience comprised in large part of children. With dialogue to match.As good as The Mandolorian is, watching The Watchmen makes that show feel like fluff and light entertainment.
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Show is becoming lost goodThis episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
No.This episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
This episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
no but THIS was the momentIt's based on a comic that has an evil genius transport an interdimensional squid into New York and kill thousands of people.
Nobody who still uses that phrase even knows its meaning. The original usage was for a single moment signifying a TV show past its prime changing up its formula in gimmicky ways to get attention and shirking what made it good in the first place—Fonzie jumping the shark in Happy Days epitomized the stunts they were pulling for publicity along with the loss of focus on the ensemble as Fonzie became a, well, a Fonzie. It then broadened to a more general idea of a piece of media losing sight over time of what made it great originally. The tenor of your post sure makes it seem like you never liked the show much in the first place, and even if you did it's impossible to say that the previous 6 episodes (each of which has largely focused on a different character) established a pattern of what works for you that episode 7 then violated.This episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
Imagine having this opinion.This episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
Nah, LOST was its own level of stupidThis episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
It's based on a comic that has an evil genius transport an interdimensional squid into New York and kill thousands of people.
Ah, let's compare Alan Moore's masterpiece graphic novel to Lindelof's increasing silly fanfiction. You know the thing with the squid - is that it was built up properly.
I really liked this show at first - despite some qualms about the first episode. Every episode since the third has been getting worse and worse IMO. Even last week left me cold despite some neat moments and good concept. It continues to learn harder and harder into stupid comic book shit instead of getting us invested in a show that should be continuing to deconstruct superhero culture and address the racial reality in America.
Mesmerism? The 7K turning from a realistic hate group based on a problematic figure's views TO a nefarious super advanced KKK that wants to rule the world by becoming Dr. Manhattan? It's becoming groan worthy.
And of course, Cal is Dr. Manhattan! Because our main character has to be involved with EVERYTHING. We can't just have a compelling protagonist thrust upon a situation she seems outmatched for... no its "all connected" and her previously-nothing character husband just happens to be God with just about zero narrative buildup to that reveal! (In before little hints that "do I know you?" and the nickname for a dildo is appropriate foreshadowing.)
Also the Veidt plot - interesting at first - is a narrative wet far so far. They need to do something great with that in the last few episodes for it to be worth anything.
This is show is leaning into the cape shit down the stretch, opposite of what is appealing from the original work. It feels like the final seasons of Lost - weak payoffs, narrative contrivances, and full of goofy technology.
I think this show in particular is less of a cape crowd thing and more a Lindelof crowd thing. So far this show has been the cleanest and most coherent iteration of his mystery box style of storytelling that has taken painstaking care to answer most questions in short order while not posing too many more questions. This episode in particular, for people paying attention, was a particularly satisfying beat in the story.Ahh imagine dissenting criticism! The cape crowd doesn't have much of it I know.
everyone, it's okay to stop reading hereAh, let's compare Alan Moore's masterpiece graphic novel to Lindelof's increasing silly fanfiction. You know the thing with the squid - is that it was built up properly.
I really liked this show at first - despite some qualms about the first episode. Every episode since the third has been getting worse and worse IMO.
I think this show in particular is less of a cape crowd thing and more a Lindelof crowd thing. So far this show has been the cleanest and most coherent iteration of his mystery box style of storytelling that has taken painstaking care to answer most questions in short order while not posing too many more questions. This episode in particular, for people paying attention, was a particularly satisfying beat in the story.
The show so far has been two trilogies of episodes. Then theres this one that segued us into the endgame, which was one of the most exciting episodes of TV I have seen since since maybe Season 4 of LOST.
Hahaha I literally thought the same as I was reading.
Fair enough - I think I am finding I just can't do the mystery box stuff anymore I suppose. These reveals just feel so unearned to me. I hated Westworld as well...
The 3rd episode was the most competently directed, while advancing the story with interesting new characters.
And of course, Cal is Dr. Manhattan! Because our main character has to be involved with EVERYTHING. We can't just have a compelling protagonist thrust upon a situation she seems outmatched for... no its "all connected" and her previously-nothing character husband just happens to be God with just about zero narrative buildup to that reveal! (In before little hints that "do I know you?" and the nickname for a dildo is appropriate foreshadowing.)
Ahh imagine dissenting criticism! The cape crowd doesn't have much of it I know.
If I were you I would wait and watch the next two episodes at the same time. If you plan to watch them at all.Fair enough - I think I am finding I just can't do the mystery box stuff anymore I suppose. These reveals just feel so unearned to me. I hated Westworld as well...
This episode completely jumped the shark. Show is becoming "Lost" stupid.
every episode since the third has been worse and worse?
bruh, episodes 5 and 6 are masterpieces