Not gonna lie, The Excalibur thing is clever as hell. Give the writer who came up with that a raise.
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Watchmen |OT| This is the Moment
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There are no press screeners past E6, so that's cast & crew leaking
It was mentioned at the end of Sepinwalls review.
That's my thought as well. What are the chances they would actually become "friends"? Think about it, Dr. M being Cal could be his cry for humanity. He is so desperate to feel what humans feel. He even mind wiped a human so he can start fresh apparently. Him coming across a being like himself might be the exact kind of thing he'd want. They could literally dominate the universe together if they felt it.
I loved this episode and the Manhatten twist doesn't bother me at all. I'm confused a bit though, was Cal's body some random person that has been in a car accident and maybe had died, or had DrM actually taken the form of that body?
Anyway, my only real gripe with the episode was Laurie just spilling her guts like she was in a confessional or something.
Anyway, my only real gripe with the episode was Laurie just spilling her guts like she was in a confessional or something.
The 7K knew who he was since this attack and Reeves knows because he was watching the group afterwards in him trying to find their plans is what I'm going off of
Jon Osterman was a scientist intellectual, and his disassociation took time and -- as far as anyone can say -- deliberate effort on the part of Ozymandias.
Keane would literally scrape Africa off the face of the planet and toss it into space before he would have the time to go introspective.
Keane would literally scrape Africa off the face of the planet and toss it into space before he would have the time to go introspective.
Yes they did write Laurie super dumb this episode. This is a good example of writing in service of the plot and not the character. If you thought there was a possibility of a man being part of a terrorist organization, wouldn't you think his wife would be part of it too....
I think you could charitably read it as Laurie being ambushed due to her feeling of superiority to the whole investigation (she has been pretty spot on thus far). The way she leaves Petey hanging on the phone as to where she's going is basically the clue that this characteristic is about to catch up with her. I could maybe buy that as a reason to not expect Jane to admit to everything so quickly.
But ultimately, I agree it does feel like it's just in service of the plot.
Edit: Laurie is Hillary (really Dems in general in 2016) and also a boomer. The modern day KKK/Nazis are having a resurgence and taking political power, but because she's never had any stakes in the ingrained racism of America she's blind to it aka she white. And her boomer shit comes through with her thinking these new heroes are jokes especially compared to Jon.
I'm mostly joking with this comparison but on a rewatch I will prolly keep it in mind ha
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One thing I don't like so far is the complete lack of Daniel (Nite Owl).
I know they said he was locked up (IIRC) but it would still be nice if he were involved in this series somehow.
I know they said he was locked up (IIRC) but it would still be nice if he were involved in this series somehow.
This is the best piece of score this year. My god. This is TSN-levels of good. Trent really can retire right now.
Thinking about Doc being in Tulsa but also having video of him on Mars - he had duplicates of himself in the graphic novel when he was getting down with Laurie while working on stuff, and having that multi-Manhattan make out session.
Kinda wondering if they play with that idea - I could see him fragmenting himself to collect lots of experiences, with Cal just being one among the many.
Kinda wondering if they play with that idea - I could see him fragmenting himself to collect lots of experiences, with Cal just being one among the many.
Since a Manhattan is also a drink I propose a twist on another drink.
Dr. White Whine
It would fit with the whiny little "it's hard to be a white man in America" bullshit.
Well, this is terrifying.
I haven't wanted a villain to get their just desserts in awhile.
Lube Man is going to save the day, just watch it.
EDIT : Also, I don't think they're going to succeed in making a new Dr Manhattan. Jon coming back from the dead felt like a fluke in the comics (to me at least), it's going to be some anti-climatic shit to dunk on these KKK dumbasses.
EDIT : Also, I don't think they're going to succeed in making a new Dr Manhattan. Jon coming back from the dead felt like a fluke in the comics (to me at least), it's going to be some anti-climatic shit to dunk on these KKK dumbasses.
Petey (laurie's partner and dude she boned) is definitely lube man right? lol
Yeah, I think so too. I can't imagine the cyclops klan having any real chance against Manhattan in fooling or controlling him. They seem competent and dangerous, but I think things are gonna get out of hand quick for them.
If anything, Trieu is probably the real wild card.
Yeah, I think so too. I can't imagine the cyclops klan having any real chance against Manhattan in fooling or controlling him. They seem competent and dangerous, but I think things are gonna get out of hand quick for them.
If anything, Trieu is probably the real wild card.
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Some of the press has got screeners up to episode 8 now, the pilot TV podcast mentioned it yesterday
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Nah, it's probably the best theory right now. Her father is going to be someone we already know of.
Bear in mind she could be talking figuratively. Her 'father' being someone who gave birth to who she is, rather than genetically. In which case Dr Manhatten could easily be it.
But yeah, it's probably Veidt.
Has the show ever actually referred to Cal as "Cal Abar"? I can't remember. Peteypedia medical documents list his name as Calvin Jelani. Obviously he could take her last name since he'd have no attachment to "Jelani", just curious if the show ever officially said it.
Also are these Petey = Lube Man posts based on sonething other than him being tall, skinny, and currently unexplained?
Also are these Petey = Lube Man posts based on sonething other than him being tall, skinny, and currently unexplained?
He'll never watch it. He's been super pissed off about DC's handling of Watchmen since long before the 09 film.
And it's kind of a bummer because Lindelof worships the man and has done right by his work, but he hasn't been in the headspace to be able to look at something like this fairly for decades.
Young women? He literally admits he cheats on his wife with Laurie because his wife got old.
theres only 2 episodes left and there is no other character with lube man's physique aside from Petey. It was obvious the second the lube guy was introduced.
Isn't he publicly on record as liking as David Hayters screenplay for the movie? If he liked that, how could he not like the show?....not that he'll ever admit to have watched it.
I'm rewatching the latest episode
And Angelas fathers name is 'Abar'. That is, his last name on his tag.
So..she named him after her dad?
Yeah, Moore hates DC more than whatever feelings or curiosity he might have towards the series. Maybe if somebody close to him or whom he trust recommends the series, but I don't think he would even say he likes it publicly anyway, so as to not give DC any credit.
Whether or not he likes it, at least the show directly addresses themes that Moore has been worried about in modern superhero movies:
I didn't like this revelation because I don't understand why she didn't use his help for any other crisis in her life before and during the show.
It was like she's a relatively regular person (relatively speaking) who discovers her family's past...oh and BTW I have a god in my house I forgot to mention!
It was like she's a relatively regular person (relatively speaking) who discovers her family's past...oh and BTW I have a god in my house I forgot to mention!
It's pretty clear that Manhattan wanted to live as a human for a period. To get him to use his powers would be to rob him of that experience, which isn't exactly fair. Not to mention nothing has really been insane up until this point, and Angela is hella capable on her own. What Manhattan level problem has she had to deal with so far?
he's a pandora's box once she opens that up she can't keep him to herself
Could it be that Veidt is dreaming all of this? Part of how having tomatoes and taking babies from a swamp can make sense.
He's in a prison of his own mind? Maybe he's in that statue, because that transition from Angela's eyes to the courtroom could be a clue.
This is because it doesn't make sense for Dr Manhattan to put him on Europa since he became Cal in 2009.
He's in a prison of his own mind? Maybe he's in that statue, because that transition from Angela's eyes to the courtroom could be a clue.
This is because it doesn't make sense for Dr Manhattan to put him on Europa since he became Cal in 2009.
I thought he might be in the statue. He was declared missing in 2012 after Trieu Industries purchased his companies.
Not a lot, but the story framed her as a relatively normal person (for this universe) who first finds real weird stuff around her with the conspiracy and her grandfather's past...it's just weird to me that it was "hey btw I lived with a god this whole time".