I love Mass Effect 2 but will always be amazed at just how high it appears on every list out there.
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WatchMojo: Top 20 Best Video Games Of The Century So Far
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Not exactly a controversial series of picks per se, but failing to mention almost any multiplayer-focused title is not understanding what this century was about, especially when they make a point of pointing out that the games' legacy matters. Minecraft barely made it in the top 10 and League of Legends is in the honorable mentions, then stuff like PUBG, Fortnite, DOTA, Rocket League, Siege and so on are nowhere. So how exactly did Mass Effect 2 fit in? Why Arkham City that was far less influential than Asylum ultimately? Weird list, a set of 20 acclaimed titles from (usually) acclaimed franchises but the actual order and selection seems a bit to close to a "I basically only play single player stuff, here's some stuff highly ranked on Metacritic I enjoyed" list.
Jesus Christ these people have no taste in games.
I'm playing the Witcher 3 and it's like cold soup.
Everyone chooses the same bland games every list is milquetoast.
Never a Fighting Game, Racing Game, RTS, Sim,
I'm playing the Witcher 3 and it's like cold soup.
Everyone chooses the same bland games every list is milquetoast.
Never a Fighting Game, Racing Game, RTS, Sim,
There's some irony to proclaiming superior taste in games then proceeding to call one of the most beloved games "cold soup"
There's no genre variety quota for lists, and "never a fighting game"? .... SSBM is in their list lol
As expected don't agree with any of them besides ME 2 and BotW. BotW would be more of a contender than a guaranteed spot let alone third place and ME 2 would probably be a bit lower but still top 10.
MGS V used the cardboard box to sneak onto that list unseen.
It's brilliant at times, but obviously Kohima left Konami and it's only real legacy is a great engine for Pro Evolution Soccer games.
other than that, the list is pretty great actually. There will always be key omissions in every list, but at least all of the games that are present deserve to be in the list.
It's brilliant at times, but obviously Kohima left Konami and it's only real legacy is a great engine for Pro Evolution Soccer games.
other than that, the list is pretty great actually. There will always be key omissions in every list, but at least all of the games that are present deserve to be in the list.
They don't have much platformers either which is probably to be expected from journalists who don't really care about gameplay and only like mature/grey settings.
These people don't have my taste! Therefore they have bad taste!
Literally a super cartoony, colourful platform fighter @ 11th, as well as minecraft and WoW which are as far from "mature grey" settings as it gets. Portal is pretty goofy too.
I feel like Metroid Prime should be on the list, but otherwise great. It's hard to give Galaxy 1/2/3D World/Odyssey a ton of praise when they were kind of all somewhat an evolution of the king, Super Mario 64.
Most of these games are all-time greats with extremely wide appeal and appreciation, but outside of some obvious omissions that have already been mentioned (Mario, Mario Kart, Fortnite, LoL, Ass Creed, Metroid Prime, etc) it's exceedingly strange to not see a single rhythm or Wii waggle game on this list. Guitar Hero/Rock Band and Wii Sports defined gaming for a good 3-year period in the late aughts.
Halo completely changed the way FPS games were played on consoles. 100% deserves to be on that list.
Sometimes cold soup is refreshing like gazpacho.
This is more potato.
I don't see a fighting game on that list just a party game.
We've done this before.
You must not have been around in the 2000s. Nothing was more popular than Halo. And it's arguable that the Xbox wouldn't have survived its first iteration without Halo's popularity. On top of that, it influenced every single shooter in some way since then. Few games in the history of our industry have been more influential.
Yes exactly they are publishing "the big bad list of the best games".
I'm reacting, not entirely seriously, but even still it's frustrating how samey these lists always are.
It literally perfected the console shooter and every shooter has borrowed from it since then, even alot of third person/RPG games.
Maybe they're the same because a lot of people consider those to be some of the best games made in the last 20 years? Just a thought.
Nothing was more popular than Halo? Are you kidding me? It's like GTAIII never happened.
Halo 2 was the first game to break launch day record earnings for all of entertainment unlike GTA Vice City and San Andreas.
So even less reason to go make the effort of making a video.
Top 20 games of disparate genres is pointless anyway. But easy to do.
A Cinefix style list where they talk about specific elements of attributes that something does which is great is of far more interest.
None of these lists will appeal to me, I think Tetris Effect had the best Narrative in 2018, (it did), but part of the pleasure is the argument afterwards.
If we're keeping it 100, MW, UC2, and WOW are probably the most influential titles on that list. I'd entertain swapping RE4 in for UC2, but I feel pretty damn certain about the other two.
Can you recap the story of Tetris Effect for me? Been a while since I played it??
Okay, one game was as popular. You still haven't actually put forward an argument against Halo's influence.
Still, most of the games are pretty realistic and grey setting wise. And as good as Melee was for its time, I know it still has fans, but I really think it's a mistake putting it instead of Ultimate. Ultimate has way more character options, tight controls, etc.
It's basically the story of human civilization/life on Earth as we move from single cell organisms in the deep to through the wild life of the planet and develop culture, music, cities and explore space.
And at the same time we have to realize that given where we and everything on the planet come from, we"re all connected.
It's truely beautiful and it was told through Tetris.
Yeah, I remember like dolphins, and then there was that desert level. I was too busy playing tetris to think of the "metaphor" for each stage. Considering that this is your opinion of 2018's game narratives I'm not super shocked you dislike this list. I'm not trying to shit on your opinions but to me saying that Tetris had the best narrative is like saying oh Forza Horizon 4 was just a metaphor of people taking over land mass through the evolution of machines.
It has more content and better graphics (aside from no adventure mode, no break the targets, no trophies), but "tight controls" I can't agree with when there's significant input delay and a built in buffer that has even the best players SD'ing half a second after inputting the shield button. Sakurai has gone on record saying melee is the "sharpest smash" hes made. The jump from 64 to Gamecube was by far the most significant, while Brawl>4>5 the games feel like slight improvements rather than entirely new games.
You can shit on my opinions, no opinion is sacred.
That said Tetris Effect absolutely has a narrative, Tetris 99 doesn't (afaik, haven't played it)
I don't know if Forza Horizon 4 has a narrative, certainly it's more likely to than Forza 7 (which probably has little outside of a career mode, again I haven't played so I'm only guessing.)
But it's absolutely possible for a racing game to have a narrative and narrative doesn't have to mean cutscenes.
World design art direction, mood, music, reaction interactability, there's so much more to narrative in videogames than, cutscenes of mocaped actors.
Dark Souls is the classic example of storytelling through world design for an example.
I mean it has a "story" but I'm trying to equate a racing game with no narrative and trying to make one up based on gameplay, I'm just fucking around tbh. We have different opinions of games and that's fine.
