Waypoint |OT| video games...are good

Owlowiscious

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Oct 27, 2017
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i can't even read your post because of what you might say lol

and because of the intent, i put you on ignore. sorry about that. dunno why you're purposely trying to spoil me
Heh. I get why you expected that, but there are no spoilers in that post. He actually said that he doesn't want to spoil it for you.
Then, again, I apologize for that. But since we can use this opportunity for me to stop posting and we can just move on away from this topic.
 
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Hella

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Oct 27, 2017
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Marvel Studios are now releasing TV adverts and trailers showing everything up to and including the end of Endgame.

It's not an ambush if the other side are a 24/7 Mariachi band.
I haven't been watching any trailers or anything, so I had no idea about this. Shouldn't surprise me... (Marketing overselling a product is kinda its own problem.) If they want me to see it that bad they should just post it on Netflix already.

C'mon, Disney.
 

Tzarscream

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i can't even read your post because of what you might say lol

and because of the intent, i put you on ignore. sorry about that. dunno why you're purposely trying to spoil me
The irony here is wild and also upsetting.

If somebody could at least tell Owlowiscious I didn't spoil Logan's Run I''d appreciate it.
 
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Brakke

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this isn't strictly related but i find it fascinating how little i really want to discuss a movie after its over versus a series or a game. Like theres pages of endgame or even detective pikachu discussion but I tend to find after I've vomited out a review or summation of my thoughts I don't tend to want to watch more or think about it or anything
Part of that is probably because neither movie is particularly interesting. 🙃 Functional, but disposable.

I did love the Loudreds in Detective Pikachu tho. Worth the price of admission for them alone.
 

mnz

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Bit disappointed by Rob's take on Anno, but I guess he mostly played the campaign!? The game actually considers working conditions, lets you build trade union buildings and there are worker riots and so on. I guess they used those rioters in a different way in the campaign where you take in your rebel cousin leading a one. I feel like there's more to it, hope he sticks with it.
 

Haubergeon

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A pertinent part of the whole topic of spoilers is something I remember being talked about in the earlier years of the Bombcast, and it's that, yeah while people going out of their way to spoil things does suck sometimes even if it happens, people becoming outraged at in-passing spoilers and making a big fuss about it are effectively doing the same thing as people that go out of their way to do it. I'm sure I've been casually spoiled on things all the time, but if they're in passing, and no one really makes a big deal about it, if I haven't experienced that piece of media yet I tend to just forget about it or not treat it with a huge level of importance.

Like, if I was a person who knew nothing about FF7, who am I to care if some character I have no context for dies? Why am I supposed to think that's a big deal? Why would I remember it, even? It becomes a bigger deal though when people kick up storms about it, only further propagating the actual spoiler by accident and making it more important than it is.
Aeris dying
shouldn't ruin that game for anyone, people shouldn't think that's like the climax of the story or anything. I think Ryan was the one that made this point back in the day, but if someone casually mentions a spoiler in a podcast, and then a hundred people scream "WOW, THAT WAS A HUGE SPOILER, YOU JUST RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE!" in the comments, then congratulations, you have further spoiled it for people and ensured no one can forget it.
 
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RepairmanJack

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This episode of Waypoints reminded me of how I first came up on the internet in a shit community, which happens to also be where my screen name is from, and realizing how I was missing a lot of undertones in books I was reading.

I was first drawn to the Repairman Jack forums because I liked the book series for it's supernatural elements and inter-connectivity. Then I eventually found out a loooooot of people apparently like the character and those books for the strong gun toting libertarian stick it to the man aspect of the books.

Haven't really read the books since and was glad looking back that I didn't continue down that community path and end up in far worse circles eventually stemming from it.
 

Patapuf

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I was part of terrible/"juvenile" communities too back then, without really realising it. The first wave of browsergames had some really shitty guilds.

I think, as long as you have a decent environment offline the danger of stuff like 4chan isn't that big. But when things suck in real life and these places become your primary refuge, that's when it can get dark quickly.
 

Jintor

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the first community i really remember was planetblackandwhite on, i don't know, the gamespy network i think
 

RepairmanJack

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I think my actual start on the internet was in some weird book club chat room where it was comprised of people who didn't want children or something like that? But the funny thing was I was in it as a child because it was one of the only decent places I could find to talk about books.

Then that eventually led me to the reparimanjack forums. Which I just checked on for their current status and it either blew up, or everyone went other places.
 

Nora

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I grew up online in a small, tight-knit Final Fantasy forum community. I was on there as young as 12 or 13, probably until about 10ish years ago. There was a pretty diverse crowd of regulars of all kinds of genders, sexualities, and ethnicities. I didn't realize it then but it's probably one of the things that primed me to become a leftist later in life, when the rising tide of right-wing bullshit in gaming communities became impossible to ignore and forced me to define my own politics.

I miss that late 90s/early aughts online, before social media made everything into a polemic and put everyone in their own little bubble. It is what it is, I don't wanna be old lady yells at cloud, but people don't really talk to each other online as much anymore as just state their viewpoints with maximum rhetorical force. It makes twitter really exhausting. We were never meant to process the thoughts of everyone on the entire planet at once.
 

Jintor

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yeah i attribute a lot of my early online existence probably mostly to deviantART chatrooms focused around comic competitions (which could have gone badly I suppose) and later to the Discworld MUD, both of which were super leftist generally speaking (Discworld for obvious reasons, and deviantART probably because it happened to luck into the portion of it dominated by Californians and people who liked Californians. The artist community I think generally speaking also had a higher proportion of girls in it than other places on the internet, which kinda persisted into online spaces like Tumblr, which was and remains probably the only place on the net where I default assume users are female. Actually, AO3 also, now that I think about it.
 

Antiwhippy

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I also used to hangout a lot in metalhead forums and also music communities like sputnikmusic.

Incidentally I never want to discuss music with anyone ever again.
 

hankenta

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I started out in a Norwegian Naruto fan forum. Couldn't have gotten a better start IMO. I was ~14 back then, 29 now.
 
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I was around 10 when I started participating in online communities and bounced between the fanfiction.net and gamefaqs forums. Then I jumped from those to various forums of whatever I was interested in at the time to finally livejournal in my teens which had a huge impact on my political development.

I came for the fandom stuff, but stayed for the social discourse. Posters at livejournal, which were mostly women of diverse backgrounds, talked about race, gender, misogyny, trans rights, etc long before the broader gaming/nerdy internet communities broached those topics. They helped me realize that it was okay that I felt uncomfortable with all the racist, sexist, and homophobic garbage I encountered even if they were framed as 'just jokes'. I sometimes wonder if I would have continued to internalize that shit and became conservative if I never stumbled across lj.

I miss that late 90s/early aughts online, before social media made everything into a polemic and put everyone in their own little bubble. It is what it is, I don't wanna be old lady yells at cloud, but people don't really talk to each other online as much anymore as just state their viewpoints with maximum rhetorical force. It makes twitter really exhausting. We were never meant to process the thoughts of everyone on the entire planet at once.
This is why I could never move to newer social media platforms when they started to dominate. Felt like I was shouting into a void along with everyone else.
 

Brakke

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I was wary of the internet for as long as I can remember. I didn’t really participate in any communities until StarCraft Battle.net chats or really until WoW guilds.

I still keep a pretty low online profile. I post a lot here, but otherwise everywhere I participate is under my own name and it’s usually niche boards related to hobbies that facilitate meeting real people.

I can’t imagine actually participating on Twitter, what a nightmare. I’ve always had a private account (with like a dozen IRL followers) that I use to follow Personalities like the Waypoint folks or local reporters. People who @ strangers are lunatics.
 

spiritfox

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Oct 26, 2017
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I was on other sites but didn't participate in discussions until I got on GAF. I guess it was a good thing, since I could have easily went down a very different route in my internet life.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Let’s think... vaguely...

VMK forum -> MapleStory forum -> Twitter -> Tumblr -> mainly just Twitter again -> GAF, after using it very rarely/around E3 for several years before that -> here? Probably missed something, hmm.

Though there was always something on the side that was more important. MSN group chats with people from the VMK forum. IRC chat for the MapleStory forum. Nightly Skype calls with a group of Twitter/Tumblr people.

that’s what I miss the most, I guess... it’s been a long time since I had that kind of online friend group; closest I’ve gotten in the past few years was the couple weeks I was playing a lotta PUBG with some other Twitter people on Discord, and then a little of the same around Monster Hunter

I think using certain Discord servers more would capture some of that - I keep hanging out on big ones when I should be visiting, say, the FatT server more often as I rarely do that now despite being there a ton during its early days - but that’s still not quite the same thing as having that tiny group of dedicated people
 

PBalfredo

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Oct 26, 2017
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My formative community was Starmen.net, back when it was still Earthbound.net. I made the move to GAF as my primary hangout around the time Brawl came out, thanks to the Dojo thread, but I still go to the Camp Fangamer events in Tucson, which are essentially a Starmen.net meetup.
 

H.Cornerstone

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Oct 27, 2017
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So as I was leaving to go to work today, I said to my dog “Bye, Be good, and Be good at it.”

I’ve listened to too much Waypoint me thinks
 

TheMoon

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y'all getting hung up on spoiler debates but nobody addresses the real issue: I've seen TWO people during this discussion refer to sci-fi as "scify" like it's some twisted hybrid of actual science fiction and the network SyFy ...like, what the hell.
 

Alucrid

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Oct 25, 2017
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was catching up on the waypoint radio only to hear daryl davis brought up again (although not by name). always fun to post these excerpts.

Despite his vow that he would never be photographed with Davis, the former grand klaliff has since posed for a picture. It made Davis's book, of course. "Yeah, Daryl is a friend," he confirms. "He's articulate, intelligent. He relaxed my views – on him, as an individual."

Davis received thank-you notes after making a cash baby gift to one of Doles's former fiancees. Doles's children have met Davis. They like him. But Doles is quick to qualify Davis's generosity: "My children weren't supported by a black man."

Having quit the Klan, Doles plans to enter politics: "I definitely follow the Nazis. National Socialism is my religion. I believe in it and I look for the Fourth Reich."

He says it calmly, matter-of-fact, utterly without irony. Doles's agenda is now set by the National Alliance, founded by William L. Pierce, author of "The Turner Diaries" and inheritor of George Lincoln Rockwell's Nazi following. The alliance's literature embraces "racial cleansing of the land," takes a firm stand against "negroid" jazz and rock music, and, by name, Barry Manilow.

But Doles doesn't mention the implications for his friend, the black musician. Such talk would be impolite and impolitic. "I respect him," the neo-Nazi says. "I'll shake his hand. But I'll take my views to my grave."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/features/klan.htm

A black pickup truck parked across the street, and a muscular man got out, and a reporter from the local paper who’d just arrived told the women it was Chester Doles, a former leader in the Klan and a white-separatist group called the National Alliance who had gone to prison on federal weapons charges. He lived just outside town and was currently a personal trainer who also worked promoting “hate rock” concerts around the country. He pulled out a cellphone and began taking photographs. He said something to the women, but they couldn’t hear.

“What’s that, sir?” Kahn called out, and the women heard him say something about how “glorious” it was to see such a sign in the light of day, and then he drove off, even as more people were arriving — white-haired locals, college students and others who said they were appalled; a Native American man who brought a ladder and tried to rip the banner down; a white man who argued the KKK banner and flag should come down but not the Confederate battle flag; a young black man who stood there crying.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-northern-georgia-a-kkk-banner-seemed-to-some-a-sign-of-the-times/2017/03/12/de5a3518-05bd-11e7-b9fa-ed727b644a0b_story.html?utm_term=.5622de5814ac
 

Jintor

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same tbh. it sounds like a more accessible version of crusader kings but with some actual battle simulation stuff to sink my teeth into

might even make me forget that i've been chasing the RTS dream forever
 

TheMrPliskin

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I'm in the same boat. Rob and Austin both have a knack for selling me on strategy games, even though it's a genre I've tried to get into dozens of times with very little success.
 
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I'm interested in Life is Strange 2, but haven't gotten around to it yet because I wanted to wait until most of the episodes were out. I don't care about the absence of Chloe/Max. I'm just not into episodic games. Why buy the first episode and have to wait months for the next when you could wait until they're all released and play it in one go? I did the same with the first LiS.
 

Joeku

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The "Tsao Tsao is a good guy" thing from Rob is making me finally reconcile my support of Wei in all the RotK and DW games over the last 20 years. Like clearly they're led by an asshole, but I was just way into Zhang Liao because of his Waluigi-esque, Dong Zhuo & Lu Bu-surviving-ass moustache and halberd and he eventually pledged himself to Wei after the Yellow Turban Rebellion.

Cuz yeah, Tsao Tsao was a fucking dick.

I'm interested in Life is Strange 2, but haven't gotten around to it yet because I wanted to wait until most of the episodes were out. I don't care about the absence of Chloe/Max. I'm just not into episodic games. Why buy the first episode and have to wait months for the next when you could wait until they're all released and play it in one go? I did the same with the first LiS.
Well it's not the biggest deal because if I'm reasonably sure you're right, but there have been major timeskips in LiS2 and the distance between episodes feels almost earned that way.
 
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