WB Games Strikes Again: MK11 single player (non-story) progression is reportedly agonizingly slow/difficult

[LiK]

Max will play Towers cuz he enjoys that. He'll def call out anything he doesn't like. He and the doods were one of the first to complain about the slower gameplay in previews when everyone else was praising them. NRS increased dash speed as a result of feedback from the community.

 

[thonerayman]

i think the "problem" with max is, that he might not play the towers at all and focus on story mode before jumpring into online mp.

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I wonder if we as a community could reach out to Max and see if he would be willing to devote a bit of time to trying them and giving his opinion. Good or bad, just see what he thinks.

 

[S1kkZ]

it would be great if he could take a look at it. it would also make for an entertaing video, as usual.

 

[Cordy]

Another thing I wanna address is that a lot of people keep thinking people are harping on MK11 just to take shots at it. Nah, that's not true. MK11 had amazing marketing, it's release window was small, the gameplay seems to be dope, graphics amazing. Story's dope, everything looked amazing.

People are ragging about this a lot because the game could have been a 10/10 fighter.

Shit's crazy. This generation's had so many fighters and this one might have been arguably the best but the this crap hits. Man, that HURTS. Just imagine that. Granted, the stuff with the difficulty and micro-transactions and all that are bad but it's more than that. This isn't just some mobile Gacha game. This is Mortal Kombat man.

They were doing EVERYTHING right until this. Some people don't understand how hard it is to hit every single point up until a launch's release. I thought this was really gonna do it.

 

[Jocund]

aris will champion the people

 

[LiK]

I wonder if we as a community could reach out to Max and see if he would be willing to devote a bit of time to trying them and giving his opinion. Good or bad, just see what he thinks.

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Why do you guys think he'll ignore Towers? He used to do multiple rage videos with Towers in the previous games.

And Simmons will def call shit out if he doesn't like it.

 

[FHIZ]

This can't be real. People going crazy trying to justify MK11's launch status lol

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So reviewers are reviewing a 4 month old build... yeah, sure.

 

[MadLaughter]

I took out the video in the OP since WB took it down :(

 

[lucebuce]

NRS forgot how software development works and just sat on the game for 2 months then had it magically go gold.

 

[RecRoulette]

So reviewers are reviewing a 4 month old build... yeah, sure.

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Yeah, there's no possible way because of the dashes. I just found it hilarious

 

[Genesius]

This seems a bit histrionic to me.

The game hasn't even launched yet. There could be a large day one patch. People are acting like this is a permanent unsolvable problem.

 

[Nemesis_]

This seems a bit histrionic to me.

The game hasn't even launched yet. There could be a large day one patch. People are acting like this is a permanent unsolvable problem.

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The patches are all out. There's been 1.01 and 1.02 just hit as well.

There are problems, but they are definitely not being fixed until after launch.

 

[sephi22]

Downloaded the update. Towers are the same. Noob's Stage 4 still has spears and Hell-Ports listed.

 

[LiK]

This seems a bit histrionic to me.

The game hasn't even launched yet. There could be a large day one patch. People are acting like this is a permanent unsolvable problem.

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Yup, I guess people are a bit cynical because of the way Injustice 2 was handled with some of the grind there. Hoping MK11 will be better after release from feedback.

 

[S1kkZ]

nah, they could have deactivated the towers until launch day. they didnt. the day one patch came out on thursday and activated the towers (+ kraypt and the whole unlock system) with the difficulty/reward levels that netherrealm set up.

 

[MadLaughter]

This seems a bit histrionic to me.

The game hasn't even launched yet. There could be a large day one patch. People are acting like this is a permanent unsolvable problem.

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I think everyone knows this can be fixed, but are skeptical it ever will.

But if people tweet constructive feedback at the powers-that-be, maybe we can be a force for change.

@tylerlansdown @DKirtzic @BrianMakesGames @ApathyJones @DizzyKnee @Osu16Bit

 

[Genesius]

I'm certainly not trying to criticize anyone who's disappointed with the current state of the towers. I'm just saying it might be valuable to wait until the game launches and see if anything changes. They've definitely shown that they are receptive to feedback.

 

[2shd]

I think everyone knows this can be fixed, but are skeptical it ever will.

But if people tweet constructive feedback at the powers-that-be, maybe we can be a force for change.

@tylerlansdown @DKirtzic @BrianMakesGames @ApathyJones @DizzyKnee @Osu16Bit

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It is important to let the developers (not just WB) know how you feel about this, but respectfully of course.

 

[Cordy]

Giantbomb's got a Quick Look coming up at 7AM so I can't wait until they comment on the towers.

 

[BurnKnuckle21]

I feel like it's possible towers and loot boxes could still be updated day 1. Wouldn't they be server-side updates anyway and not necessarily part of the game's patches?

 

[2shd]

I'm certainly not trying to criticize anyone who's disappointed with the current state of the towers. I'm just saying it might be valuable to wait until the game launches and see if anything changes. They've definitely shown that they are receptive to feedback.

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Honestly, the system they have in place day one combine with how they were back-patting themselves with the "no loot box" thing says all I need to know. (yeah not techincally a loot box, but it uses similar tactics)
They want to string people out for months and months (or break their will), which is ridiculous for costumes and stuff in a fighting game.

 

[Geeked]

I was hoping game having "no loot boxes" meant they wouldn't be reusing the horrible systems from Injustice 2 (those pretty much ruined the game for me).

Seems like they just doubled down on it, ugh. Way to kill the hype.

 

[Dphex]

I was hoping game having "no loot boxes" meant they wouldn't be reusing the horrible systems from Injustice 2 (those pretty much ruined the game for me).

Seems like they just doubled down on it, ugh. Way to kill the hype.

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the Krypt is literally filled with hundreds of lootboxes...and you fight for koins which you take to the Krypt to open these boxes. it is like pachinko... you don´t get the rewards for fighting, you exchange your koins for the loot lol

there is even a statue where you can donate Koins and it spits out an item, it is a straight up slot machine

I feel like it's possible towers and loot boxes could still be updated day 1. Wouldn't they be server-side updates anyway and not necessarily part of the game's patches?

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why though? that reviewers and paying customers who got the game early get fucked or for shits and giggles? you think they will patch Day One that status effects also affect the enemy, not only the player? i will believe it when i see it

 

[Geeked]

the Krypt is literally filled with hundreds of lootboxes...and you fight for koins which you take to the Krypt to open these boxes

there is even a statue where you can donate Koins and it spits out an item, it is a straight up slot machine

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166 Rapid-Fire Questions With Mortal Kombat 11's Ed Boon I guess this is going to be the new

 

[sephi22]

I tried the new patch for 45 minutes. The Stage 4 Noob towers have the same requirements, and the Towers don't seem to have changed. I played the Sub Zero Tag battle tower and was able to find two bros to team up with. Here's how the mechanics in this fight work:

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

The game also assigns random friendly assists to the player that the game activates at random times. In this case we had special forces grenade volley, and a tidal wave that travels across the screen. Also, the CPU can use a fatal blow on each player (so 3 in total), but if one of the players uses their fatal blow, the others cannot.

We weren't able to beat this battle, due to the ridiculous stage 3. Enjoy.

 

[MrH]

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I haven't bought one of their games since, they absolutely had my pants down with MKX on PC, I really felt like they'd stolen £40 from me it was so bad.

 

[nihilence]

That third phase looked awful.

 

[Slaythe]

I tried the new patch for 45 minutes. The Stage 4 Noob towers have the same requirements, and the Towers don't seem to have changed. I played the Sub Zero Tag battle tower and was able to find two bros to team up with. Here's how the mechanics in this fight work:

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

The game also assigns random friendly assists to the player that the game activates at random times. In this case we had special forces grenade volley, and a tidal wave that travels across the screen. Also, the CPU can use a fatal blow on each player (so 3 in total), but if one of the players uses their fatal blow, the others cannot.

We weren't able to beat this battle, due to the ridiculous stage 3. Enjoy.

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Actually seems fun to me ... teaming up with good players trying to beat this stuff should be a lot of fun ...

I understand random players will hate the hell out of this though.

 

[sephi22]

How would you counter the third phase Slaythe? Say the first two players hand you the boss on a platter with 10% HP remaining. Now what?

 

[Freezasaurus]

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

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Now it just sounds like they went out of their way to make the Dark Souls of fighting games. :P

 

[Slaythe]

How would you counter the third phase Slaythe? Say the first two players hand you the boss on a platter with 10% HP remaining. Now what?

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1) Try to block as much as possible and avoid throws, and only attack when the projectiles stop falling, don't attack him even if he's open or you get frozen

2) Try funny abilities like Jade's anti projectiles to see if you can bypass this thing entirely

You can block them right ?

 

[Dragon's Game]

hopefully there is update day 1

 

[Dphex]

I tried the new patch for 45 minutes. The Stage 4 Noob towers have the same requirements, and the Towers don't seem to have changed. I played the Sub Zero Tag battle tower and was able to find two bros to team up with. Here's how the mechanics in this fight work:

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

The game also assigns random friendly assists to the player that the game activates at random times. In this case we had special forces grenade volley, and a tidal wave that travels across the screen. Also, the CPU can use a fatal blow on each player (so 3 in total), but if one of the players uses their fatal blow, the others cannot.

We weren't able to beat this battle, due to the ridiculous stage 3. Enjoy.

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i´ve tried this 5 times with different groups of people...yeah, no, shit is impossible. first player can beat half the healthbar off, the other players get so much damage that they can´t make a dent after that

the whole idea is good, the execution, just like most of the towers of time is just awful and annoying

 

[XxLeonV]

I was already waiting for this to hit the $10 bin. Now I might not touch it at all lol.

 

[sephi22]

1) Try to block as much as possible and avoid throws, and only attack when the projectiles stop falling, don't attack him even if he's open or you get frozen

2) Try funny abilities like Jade's anti projectiles to see if you can bypass this thing entirely

You can block them right ?

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Nope you cant block. Throws get broken if you get hit by them. Theres another video where the third guy picked Jade. I'll upload it later

 

[Grimsen]

This has to be some pre-release trolling from NRS. That third phase looks ridiculous.

 

[Cecil]

I certainly wasn't going to preorder this game anywhere, so I can't pretend that this thing has any effect on any purchasing decision for me.
But just reading about it makes me....tired. Just the thought of putting up with that nonsense, for some cosmetical items, just the thought of it puts me off the game completely, no matter the content you have in the game even if you disregard these modes completely.

And I can't see why the price of the game would have any effect on me with this at all. Pointless grind is pointless grind, no matter the price.

 

[2shd]

You guys, this is OK. It's a GaaS game. This is supposed to be played for years!!!!! Why do you want to unlock everything in a day??!!!!

 

[FHIZ]

I tried the new patch for 45 minutes. The Stage 4 Noob towers have the same requirements, and the Towers don't seem to have changed. I played the Sub Zero Tag battle tower and was able to find two bros to team up with. Here's how the mechanics in this fight work:

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

The game also assigns random friendly assists to the player that the game activates at random times. In this case we had special forces grenade volley, and a tidal wave that travels across the screen. Also, the CPU can use a fatal blow on each player (so 3 in total), but if one of the players uses their fatal blow, the others cannot.

We weren't able to beat this battle, due to the ridiculous stage 3. Enjoy.

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...how is any of that supposed to be fun?

 

[Dphex]

You guys, this is OK. It's a GaaS game. This is supposed to be played for years!!!!! Why do you want to unlock everything in a day??!!!!

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[Slaythe]

Has anybody familiar with the game (like pros , or youtubers) that has the game early, commented on the towers yet ?

Just to know what they think of this whole thing so far.

 

[sephi22]

Round 2

 

[Santar]

I tried the new patch for 45 minutes. The Stage 4 Noob towers have the same requirements, and the Towers don't seem to have changed. I played the Sub Zero Tag battle tower and was able to find two bros to team up with. Here's how the mechanics in this fight work:

Each person on the team fights the boss in a set order. In this case, I was second. The boss starts with minor modifiers, but as they get closer to death, the modifiers get stronger. The first modifier was the ground getting frozen and slowing the player, and if the player stands on it too long, they get frozen. The second stage of the fight replaces this with ice missiles that home on to the player and freezes them on impact. The third...well.. watch the video.

The game also assigns random friendly assists to the player that the game activates at random times. In this case we had special forces grenade volley, and a tidal wave that travels across the screen. Also, the CPU can use a fatal blow on each player (so 3 in total), but if one of the players uses their fatal blow, the others cannot.

We weren't able to beat this battle, due to the ridiculous stage 3. Enjoy.

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I wonder if these toers that team you up with other players will require ps plus. Hopefully not.

 

[Tyaren]

You guys, this is OK. It's a GaaS game. This is supposed to be played for years!!!!! Why do you want to unlock everything in a day??!!!!

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It will honestly take me years to get all the skins I want, lol. The Krypt skins at least. As it stands now I won't earn many of the skins found in the Towers of Time. They couldn't be more unfair and frustrating.

 

[thonerayman]

Round 2

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What in the hell?!? Those mini projectiles are all over the screen!! There is no way you could avoid those things!! Literally impossible to avoid all of them

 

[Whompa]

What is 60 dollars worth to these publishers these days?

 

[Freezasaurus]

What is 60 dollars worth to these publishers these days?

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Not nearly as much as they think they can wring out of people, it seems.

 

[P A Z]

I ain't no fighting game pro but I know BS when I see it and that third stage is total bullshit.

There's no way a human designed that, that has to be designed by AI just picking random modifiers....oh wait you can pay to skip fights...makes sense now.

 

[thonerayman]

I ain't no fighting game pro but I know BS when I see it and that third stage is total bullshit.

There's no way a human designed that, that has to be designed by AI just picking random modifiers....oh wait you can pay to skip fights...makes sense now.

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I hate this is what gaming has become... It has been neatly hurts me. To make fights so hard that even great players can't win/barely scrape by and the rest of us are stuck having to "buy" a win.

 

[Deleted member 2618]

Gaaaah. What a huge bummer. I'm still gonna get this because I adore MK's gameplay and story modes but what a huge bummer.