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[WCCFTECH-Rumor] Lockhart Will Be Half The Price Of The Series X; Series X prepared to be $400, July Event Will Be A “Night Of Mic Drops”
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soooo...are they going to go back to standardized SSD format, cuz thats the mic drop id need to see
I can't see the X going for $400. It's got to be at least $499. And the existence of Lockhart to cover the lower price range would easily allow them get away with $599 for the X if they really needed to. They can certainly price match the PS5 with it. A $299 Lockhart would still win the title of "cheapest next gen console."
That said, $200 and $400 would indeed be a megaton mic drop.
That said, $200 and $400 would indeed be a megaton mic drop.
nah the SSD will make the PS5 just as expensive if not more so than the series X.
If they sell a console for 200 it's gonna be absolute garbage. In fact it sounds like a nightmare for devs to get their games running for it
exactly.Verified or not.. try going back in time and read this so called insider (eastmen) old inside scoop on xbox one .. he is way off all the time.. go back to Xbox one X speculation before the final reveal
Microsoft XBOX (XBox One X / Project Scorpio) - Prerelease News and Rumours
That might work for the launch period. You could always drop to $399 in early 2018 when demand softens.These are promium customers anyway, 50 bucks for six months extra of the fastest thing around isn't so bad. Is BOM likely to be more than $150 higher than the X1S though? ~$40 more for Ram...forum.beyond3d.com
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He is no "insider "
The Anaconda/Lockhart strategy was based on the assumption that Sony would have a $399 PS5. I don't think it changes anything for Microsoft. I also don't think the PS5 comes in at $399. But it's all just guessing, maybe it will.
If the rumors are true and it has the same processor and SSD I don't really see scaling games down to work on it to be that big a challenge.
Why are people here focusing on the XSX 399 which Sony can easily match, but not the insane 200 lockheart? the lockheart is supposed to be everything as the XSX except a smaller gpu and maybe no optical drive. A Zen 2 navi-based console with a fast ssd for 200? you might as well tell me MS is giving out these consoles for free.
I don't see why they'd make the Lockhart if the plan was for XSX to be $400 at launch. Would be pretty redundant in that case
To me that rumour sounds like X could potentially be 400$, which I could see as disc version could be 449$ and discless version 399$ with the S at 199$. Could be that they really want a 200$ difference between both of them to really make the S interesting to the masses as only a 100$ difference wouldn't be enough to be quite honest.
A $200 entry point to next gen would be pretty attractive to a lot of people, and you could likely entice a good number of PS5 owners to buy it as a second console at that price too. Still, $200 is not at all likely IMO.
the Series S for $200? that just sounds completely insane, more so than the Series X at $400 even
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It's rumors like this why people always get disappointed with announcements nowadays.
Believe in this and in a month you all will be here talking about how the event was a let down. And it will be on you.
Believe in this and in a month you all will be here talking about how the event was a let down. And it will be on you.
Can the thread be locked please?Verified or not.. try going back in time and read this so called insider (eastmen) old inside scoop on xbox one .. he is way off all the time.. go back to Xbox one X speculation before the final reveal
Microsoft XBOX (XBox One X / Project Scorpio) - Prerelease News and Rumours
That might work for the launch period. You could always drop to $399 in early 2018 when demand softens.These are promium customers anyway, 50 bucks for six months extra of the fastest thing around isn't so bad. Is BOM likely to be more than $150 higher than the X1S though? ~$40 more for Ram...
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He is no "insider "
The site is way slower because of this thread 😬
Honestly, I could see MS selling XSX at $399 if the PS5 digital is $399 as well. That way MS is competitive and they are probably ready to lose $100~ on each unit in order to keep marketshare close. It would also surely drive GP subs up and make up the difference is about a year or two of monthly subs. I would love this being true if just to show how good having competition is.
The nextgen will be here before either of the devices actually fail.
Currently working in a very large company (bigger than MS) and I can tell you for certain that divisions can tap into additional capital. There's only so much finance is willing to offer and each division submits their plans for consideration and rationalization, so it comes down to what finance and leadership find compelling enough to fund based on expected risk and reward.
It's a bit like being a startup looking for funding from investors, except your investor is your finance department and leadership.
5 studios ? $400 XSX ? $200 Lockhart ? Well, that would be great, but I'm not believing any of those. They didn't do it with One X, which was a midgen refresh, not supposed to sell well, they clearly won't do it for their new "flagship".
I still can believe that XSX would be $400 if, and only if, Sony announce $400 for PS5 (not Digital). But that won't happen.
I still can believe that XSX would be $400 if, and only if, Sony announce $400 for PS5 (not Digital). But that won't happen.
And I thought claiming the PS5 Digital would be €399 was outrageous bullshit. Lockhart for sub-$250? Looney tunes. Like, I can kinda see Microsoft being prepared to take the price of the Series X down to as low as $400 (in the event Sony manages to pull a $399 price tag out of their ass), but that would require killing off Lockhart, not discounting it further. And everything I said about the infeasability of Spny recouping a $100 subsidy goes triple with the amount of losses Microsoft would have to take to hit a $400 Series X and a sub-$250 Lockhart. Nah mate, ain't happening.
If they go the streaming only route, $149-199 is reasonable. I mean $60 for a controller and then a bit more for the "console". Honestly, it makes sense to have this over a "medium" step cheap console at $249-$299.
Locking in my prediction:
Xbox Series X: $499
Xbox Series S: $399
PS5 Standard: $499
PS5 Digital: $449
I think both parties know this'll be the case but no one wants to be the first to announce.
Xbox Series X: $499
Xbox Series S: $399
PS5 Standard: $499
PS5 Digital: $449
I think both parties know this'll be the case but no one wants to be the first to announce.
Smaller GPU, no disc drive, cheaper cooling, perhaps half the storage space.
Could shave off $200 off the XSX.
so possibly $499 and $299.
Has he claimed to be an insider? It's possible someone gave him a limited amount of information and he's speculating on other stuff. Not that I believe him. Still waiting for some to find out what else he has leaked.Verified or not.. try going back in time and read this so called insider (eastmen) old inside scoop on xbox one .. he is way off all the time.. go back to Xbox one X speculation before the final reveal
Microsoft XBOX (XBox One X / Project Scorpio) - Prerelease News and Rumours
That might work for the launch period. You could always drop to $399 in early 2018 when demand softens.These are promium customers anyway, 50 bucks for six months extra of the fastest thing around isn't so bad. Is BOM likely to be more than $150 higher than the X1S though? ~$40 more for Ram...
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He is no "insider "
Considering an Xbox One S has an MSRP of $299... yeah id like to know as well lol
So it looks like fanboy rumoring because it is fanboy rumoring.Verified or not.. try going back in time and read this so called insider (eastmen) old inside scoop on xbox one .. he is way off all the time.. go back to Xbox one X speculation before the final reveal
Microsoft XBOX (XBox One X / Project Scorpio) - Prerelease News and Rumours
That might work for the launch period. You could always drop to $399 in early 2018 when demand softens.These are promium customers anyway, 50 bucks for six months extra of the fastest thing around isn't so bad. Is BOM likely to be more than $150 higher than the X1S though? ~$40 more for Ram...
And
He is no "insider "
I'm skeptical of anything outside Microsoft or Sony itself saying the PS5 and Series X will retail for anything less than $499.99.
At one time ya. Now we're looking at like 10+ years of heavy use
No way. Even at $499 seems like a loss and aggressive for what you get.
I could see Lockhart as low as 249 though since it replaces the One S all digital and that's the MSRP. I wondered if they have a disc Lockhart too but rumors say no and the Series X size is dictated by UHD in one direction so it adds size.
I could see Lockhart as low as 249 though since it replaces the One S all digital and that's the MSRP. I wondered if they have a disc Lockhart too but rumors say no and the Series X size is dictated by UHD in one direction so it adds size.
From what I have heard from Polish devs, this seems quite possible. There are certainly 2 consoles but afaik price point seemingly hasn't been decided yet. Microsoft is willing to take a big loss on every single unit, though.
What is more, I heard that Microsoft was trying to acquire couple and successfully acquired one of the biggest Polish game devs which will also be announced on July event.
What is more, I heard that Microsoft was trying to acquire couple and successfully acquired one of the biggest Polish game devs which will also be announced on July event.
Here's how I see it:
$399 XSX and $199 XSS vs $399 PS5
Wow! Bold! #XboxWon
$499 XSX and $249 XSS vs $399 PS5
Just give the generation to Sony
$599 XSX and $299 XSS vs $399 PS5
Lol, Microsoft wat u doing? U drunk? go home
Granted this relies on the PS5 being $399 which honestly I don't know if it will be...
I honestly do not like the concept of lockhart if it's an underpowered XSX.
$399 XSX and $199 XSS vs $399 PS5
Wow! Bold! #XboxWon
$499 XSX and $249 XSS vs $399 PS5
Just give the generation to Sony
$599 XSX and $299 XSS vs $399 PS5
Lol, Microsoft wat u doing? U drunk? go home
Granted this relies on the PS5 being $399 which honestly I don't know if it will be...
I honestly do not like the concept of lockhart if it's an underpowered XSX.
The exception exists because it's friggin Minecraft. It makes no sense in this context. Xbox division has its own budget.
Yeah right..........
The RDNA2 GPU alone makes this BS!
Unless MS is willing to take the biggest hit on hardware in the history of hardware, forget consoles.
I don't see this being true.
I do think Lockhart is MS real play for "Next gen", if they even consider this a generation.
The Series X will probably be under utilized forever held back by the Lockhart.
The upcoming gen will be one of parity throughout IMO.
The RDNA2 GPU alone makes this BS!
Unless MS is willing to take the biggest hit on hardware in the history of hardware, forget consoles.
I don't see this being true.
I do think Lockhart is MS real play for "Next gen", if they even consider this a generation.
The Series X will probably be under utilized forever held back by the Lockhart.
The upcoming gen will be one of parity throughout IMO.
$399 is completely plausible if they are willing to lose $200 a unit and that is not unheard of however, $199 for a Series S would be beyond aggressive it would be flat out insane.
Lockheart evolving into an XboxTV stick is a hell of a strategy I could believe... But I think it really depends on if the FIFA/Fortnite/Warzone/GTA crowd who only play a handful of titles per year get convinced and newbies become part of that audience. Also having the net speeds if it is gonna be cloud based in part. But could be a hell of a market if they pull it off, especially when you add gamepass to the mix.
None of this reads like "fan fiction" or anything unbelievable if you've been paying any attention to what Spencer has been saying about price. At this point I will assume that Series X will either be same price or less than whatever the Digital Only PS5 costs. $499 or less, with Lockhart somewhere between $200-$300.
If MS launches the XSX at $399, I would be shocked. They definitely do not want to lose the price war to Sony, and I expect them to match the high price of the PS5 with XSX and allow a discless lockhart to undercut whatever the PS5's low price is.
If they really are coming out with a bang, and they have the money and mindset to do it, then a $400 XSX, $200-$250 lockhart sure as hell would do it. Im super skeptical on this rumor. That's for sure.
If they really are coming out with a bang, and they have the money and mindset to do it, then a $400 XSX, $200-$250 lockhart sure as hell would do it. Im super skeptical on this rumor. That's for sure.
I think there is a severe lack of integrity around these sites and what they post as news. This is almost as pathetic as that "PS5 is overheating constantly and Sony is scrambling" article from Windows Central based on a random YouTube comment
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