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We are getting closer to a Letterboxd for games.

IGDB Developer comments on site and redesign!

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
Hi, IGDB here! I'm the product designer and community manager :)

Thanks a lot for the mention! and likewise to GGapp, we're big fan of what they're doing and we quite often get to chat with the founder as the app is using the IGDB API, cool dude too!

Regarding IGDB, we're actually currently in the process of redesigning the entire website (desktop & mobile) from the ground up with new look and UI, with improved functionalities and new features. In particular we have plans to redoing our custom list which should be of interest to people in this particular Letterboxd thread ;)
Same goes for the apps of course, we have plans to go back and update them in particular the Android version. While the iOS app has the custom list features and a few other cool bits, the Android version was the very first app we made and is now lagging a tad (and as an Android user myself i'd be keen on making it a priority :p).

We're a pretty small start-up and a big chunk of last year was spent on developing a new version of our API, which we unleashed just before Christmas. Meaning that ideally 2019 will have a large focus on going back to develop to the website and apps. Stay tuned!

If you folks have any question i'm happy to answer anything, kinda new to resetera though so i'm not sure what flies in here.

Few handy links if i may:
Here's our Discord which is probably the best place if you're curious about the site, the apps, or the API: https://discord.gg/R39tttj
And a similar shout out to GG while i'm here, here's their Discord server if you want to get in touch: https://discordapp.com/invite/3QszNMW

Here's some screenshot of the upcoming redesign (subject to change of course, work in progress). We're pretty open and happy to discuss suggestions and features, drop in on Discord if you have any ideas you'd like implemented!

Prototype for Discover (homepage)

Profile page prototype:



 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
What do you mean by this? Does Giant Bomb have a Letterboxd type site?
I can answer that, being from IGDB :)

He meant that similarly to GiantBomb we make all the data and information from IGDB available externally via the API, which powers many sites and projects.
For example, Twitch uses the GiantBomb API to display game information, and relevant to this thread GGapp actually makes use of the IGDB API.

To my knowledge GiantBomb doesn't have a Letterboxd type service, but their API might be used for one.
 

Ruruja

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,487
I've been after one for ages, I've tried pretty much every single one out there.

I even started making my own at one point lol.

Never seen GG before though, will be keeping my eye on it.
 

Lnds500

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,014
Putting this on my watch list cause I've been wanting a service like that for ages.
 

Matty H

Member
Oct 31, 2017
489
I use True Achievements for Xbox 1 & 360, True Trophies for PlayStation 3, 4 & Vita, and True Steam Achievements for, well, Steam!

You can link them all together but you can't really see your whole collection in one place. They're great sites for tracking your stats though and most importantly seeing what you need to do to unlock the remaining achievements.
 

kammikazy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4
Hi, IGDB here! I'm the product designer and community manager :)

Thanks a lot for the mention! and likewise to GGapp, we're big fan of what they're doing and we quite often get to chat with the founder as the app is using the IGDB API, cool dude too!

Regarding IGDB, we're actually currently in the process of redesigning the entire website (desktop & mobile) from the ground up with new look and UI, with improved functionalities and new features. In particular we have plans to redoing our custom list which should be of interest to people in this particular Letterboxd thread ;)
Same goes for the apps of course, we have plans to go back and update them in particular the Android version. While the iOS app has the custom list features and a few other cool bits, the Android version was the very first app we made and is now lagging a tad (and as an Android user myself i'd be keen on making it a priority :p).

We're a pretty small start-up and a big chunk of last year was spent on developing a new version of our API, which we unleashed just before Christmas. Meaning that ideally 2019 will have a large focus on going back to develop to the website and apps. Stay tuned!

If you folks have any question i'm happy to answer anything, kinda new to resetera though so i'm not sure what flies in here.

Few handy links if i may:
Here's our Discord which is probably the best place if you're curious about the site, the apps, or the API: https://discord.gg/R39tttj
And a similar shout out to GG while i'm here, here's their Discord server if you want to get in touch: https://discordapp.com/invite/3QszNMW

Here's some screenshot of the upcoming redesign (subject to change of course, work in progress). We're pretty open and happy to discuss suggestions and features, drop in on Discord if you have any ideas you'd like implemented!

Prototype for Discover (homepage)

Profile page prototype:



This looks really great… Any plans for dark theme?
 

Rebetherick

Member
Oct 26, 2017
200
Love Letterboxd, luckily I was already recording films I'd watched in the cinema so was easy to import as a CSV file. Took a while selecting watched for ones I could remember I'd seen not at the cinema. Up to 1,016 films logged now.

Would be interested in a video game equivalent, more so to find games I wouldn't normally consider playing.
 

60fps

Member
Dec 18, 2017
2,325
Some of you on this forum may be aware of one of the best websites on the internet called Letterboxd, a place for film fans to record, rate, and review the movies they have seen.
People keep wondering why a trophy system is so important to many players nowadays, and that’s exactly one of the reasons to me.

They provide a track record of the things I’ve played over the last 10 years, along with exact time stamps for major achievements.
 

Aku

Member
Mar 18, 2018
10
So... It's funny to see this thread. I thought about the same literally years ago and I created together with some friends an app about it. It is called Mekami. I hope you like it. (I guess it is not considered spam if it is as relevant as it seems for this thread).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mekami.link&hl=en_US



Currently it is an app for Android. It lets you log the games you play, follow people and get recommendations based on the games you like. You can also keep a Wish List. We are planning to add more functionality like to be able to create any kind of list.

More than happy to hear your feedback!
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
So... It's funny to see this thread. I thought about the same literally years ago and I created together with some friends an app about it. It is called Mekami. I hope you like it. (I guess it is not considered spam if it is as relevant as it seems for this thread).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mekami.link&hl=en_US



Currently it is an app for Android. It lets you log the games you play, follow people and get recommendations based on the games you like. You can also keep a Wish List. We are planning to add more functionality like to be able to create any kind of list.

More than happy to hear your feedback!
Looking good! downloading now (also followed on Twitter :)

Can i ask how you're populating the info on the app?
 

Timurse

Member
Oct 28, 2017
35
Moscow, Russia
Hey, I've seen RAWG being mentioned here. It's been developed for a few years by my acquittances, so I wanted to say a few things about it as well.

I've been using RAWG since about 2017, and it's quite convenient I must say.
AFAIK its database now is the biggest on the market and they also have an ability to easily edit/add games.

The coolest thing there is an automatic sync of the games from your XBL, PSN and Steam libraries (though no love for the Switch, sigh).
There's also a fan-made extension for Chrome which lets you sync even more PC stores (Epic Games included).

Somehow they ditched the numerical rating system in spite of an emoji one (lolwut). Their reasoning for that is quite rational, though I'm not a fan of it.

It is hard to distinguish a 5 from a 6. Some people just rate every single thing they like as a 9/10 and everything they don’t like as a 1/2. Some people think that every score below 5 is just too harsh. All in all, such systems deceive everybody because most people actually use three or four scores implying these meanings — Don’t try it; It’s mediocre; It’s good; It’s great. Our rating system is clear to understand: Don’t play it; You don’t need to play it; Play it; Do play it.
So, TLDR about RAWG:
1. You can sync most console games automatically (still no Nintendo, FFS).
2. Lots of lists and other instruments to discover new games.
 

ohitsluca

Member
Oct 29, 2017
405
I use Backloggery just as a way to track the games I have played+when i finished them... i dont use it for actually tracking my backlog lol. but yeah, it isnt the same as letterboxd
 

Jecht

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,562
I've flirted with these sorts of things before but my catalog is just too large to be manually entering games. I'd love if you could scan a case and have the game entered easily.
 

Falconbox

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,600
Buffalo, NY
I can answer that, being from IGDB :)

He meant that similarly to GiantBomb we make all the data and information from IGDB available externally via the API, which powers many sites and projects.
For example, Twitch uses the GiantBomb API to display game information, and relevant to this thread GGapp actually makes use of the IGDB API.

To my knowledge GiantBomb doesn't have a Letterboxd type service, but their API might be used for one.
When you're referring to GiantBomb though, do you just mean the standard game pages on GB's site, like this page?

https://www.giantbomb.com/marvels-spider-man/3030-54233/
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25

Spinky

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,252
London
If we had a site that was just identical to Letterboxd but for games, the world would be a better place. Wanted this for ages.

EDIT: Also that Handmaiden rating is correct.
 
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Shawndroid

Member
May 24, 2018
476
Canada
sighAlot hello!

I thought the IGDB was defunct. I recall using that website or something like it back a decade or so ago. So should my user account still be there? Same owners?

I noticed a few years ago I started getting a lot of spam on the custom IGDB email address I made. (spamgourmet.com) I figured that the website went under and the owner sold my data. But if the website is still running, perhaps it was hacked? What was the data leakage and do you properly secure passwords on the website?

I'll try to check it out soon.
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
sighAlot hello!

I thought the IGDB was defunct. I recall using that website or something like it back a decade or so ago. So should my user account still be there? Same owners?

I noticed a few years ago I started getting a lot of spam on the custom IGDB email address I made. (spamgourmet.com) I figured that the website went under and the owner sold my data. But if the website is still running, perhaps it was hacked? What was the data leakage and do you properly secure passwords on the website?

I'll try to check it out soon.
Heya!
That'd be surprising as to my knowledge at least IGDB hasn't been around for that long. The domain would have been acquired in 2012 I think but it didn't really kick off until a while later. I myself joined in 2015.
In doubt I should be able to check if you indeed had an account, feel free to DM me your username or email. I don't believe we've ever had leaks or spam issue as far as I know. But if is the case it'd be a concern so I've asked our devs about it!

EDIT: double checked and we have no account registered with spamgourmet.com, are you sure you might not be mistaking with a different DB website possibly?
 
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Aku

Member
Mar 18, 2018
10
It's a shame there isn't more alternatives, tbh. I love letterboxd and I use it every time I watch a movie. Same for an app I don't remember the name for the TV Series.

The main feature for me is the "Diary". I love to see all the movies (games) I have watched (played) in a way that let me see how many I played last month, or last year, or whatever. I know we still need to improve it a lot in Mekami, but unfortunately I don't see that option anywhere else. Does anyone know a platform where you can do that?
 

Shawndroid

Member
May 24, 2018
476
Canada
Heya!
That'd be surprising as to my knowledge at least IGDB hasn't been around for that long. The domain would have been acquired in 2012 I think but it didn't really kick off until a while later. I myself joined in 2015.
In doubt I should be able to check if you indeed had an account, feel free to DM me your username or email. I don't believe we've ever had leaks or spam issue as far as I know. But if is the case it'd be a concern so I've asked our devs about it!

EDIT: double checked and we have no account registered with spamgourmet.com, are you sure you might not be mistaking with a different DB website possibly?

No, my issue was on a website prior to 2013. The way back machine confirms it was never that domain. Must have been a similar one with a similar name... But not that domain.

Thanks for checking.
 

5taquitos

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,827
OR
I'm using the app 'My Game Collection'. It's pretty good. They have a list for owned/played games and a wishlist you can add games to. You can tag games with your own tags amd sort them by it. So I use tags like currently playing, finished, dropped, not played yet etc. It also let's you rate them from 0 to 10 with 0.5 steps.
This is what I use. Once you get used to the fairly dense interface, it's probably one of the most powerful trackers out there. It can sync pretty much any library, it pulls data from multiple sources like GB and IGDB, you can create unlimited custom tags with unique colors and have full control over how the tags are displayed. The search features combined with the user tags allow you to create tons of custom views (PS+ games that I've started but haven't finished, Steam games that don't have DRM, co-op games that support split screen, etc., etc.) You can change all of the cover images.

It's a great tool that's basically just hampered by the less-than-stellar presentation.
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
It's a shame there isn't more alternatives, tbh. I love letterboxd and I use it every time I watch a movie. Same for an app I don't remember the name for the TV Series.

The main feature for me is the "Diary". I love to see all the movies (games) I have watched (played) in a way that let me see how many I played last month, or last year, or whatever. I know we still need to improve it a lot in Mekami, but unfortunately I don't see that option anywhere else. Does anyone know a platform where you can do that?
I'm the same although I'm more of an imdb user, I rated over 1000 movies there. I did the account connection transfer with letterboxd and it kinda broke because it was so many haha.

When I was designing those IGDB prototypes I tried keeping in mind having a 'gaming footprint through the ages ' I want to see stats from my gaming life.. From day 1 whenever it was. With volume then you create cool stats such as most played genre, platforms, series, generation, frequency of completion, average time to beat etc.. It's a long way coming but it'll happen.

To my knowledge there isn't a service doing it yet fully. Partly because it's a lot of data and it's takes time to gather, one of the reasons we made our database editable, 200k games to categotise is a lot haha
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
Few more apps and services not mentioned yet. I see a lot of those both because of the API and because as a product designer i'm always on the lookout for new functionalities :)

Respawners (using our API): backloging app for both Android and iOS (EDIT: seems more informative rather than backlogging)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/respawners/id1407622522
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.respawners


GameTree: https://gametree.me/
More of a social/find player sort of app, but i believe it also has some gaming library tracking features.


TapTap: https://www.taptap.com/mobile
This is a Chinese service based exclusively for mobile games. If this is your jam and speak the language it seems to have cool features. Worth noting you won't find it officially on google play (because China)
 

cognizant

Member
Dec 19, 2017
5,667
I've been using Backloggery for years. I wouldn't mind moving away, but the other site would need to allow me to import my lists otherwise it's too much hassle.

I also used another site in the past to keep track of all media called Listal, but the design of the site got more clunky over time. Nowadays I just use Goodreads and Last.fm.
 

Ravelle

Member
Oct 31, 2017
6,414
There's a bunch of sites for games like that, Backloggery, How long to beat, Grouvve, etc, most of them don't really have what I'm looking for though. They're often either too barebones or it's over designed and overly complex.

Backloggery would have been perfect if it was actually a database instead of an excel sheet, having to enter every entry manually without a link to a game's page is kinda a bummer.
 

sackboy97

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,575
Italy
I used IGDB for a while, but then I moved to HowLongToBeat, mostly because the information on the average times are very useful.
 

Pau

Self-Appointed Godmother of Bruce Wayne's Children
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
2,398
I've been using HowLongToBeat, but I'm not in love with it. Particularly, I don't like that you can only make one custom list.
 
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elcoldtown

Member
Jan 7, 2019
101
Vilnius, Lithuania
Hey there! It seems like I'm late for the party. :-( Lost my older account so had to wait for this to be approved. Anyways, it's good to be back and thanks for those who mentioned RAWG here, we invest our blood, sweat and soul into it daily.

I love what the guys over in IGDB are doing, and we had several friendly chats with sighAlot. I can totally see them scratching “the Letterboxd for games” itch as well as RAWG does.

I don't know if that's true for IGDB though, but we are also moving towards a reco system. Since our public launch back in February, we've aggregated lots of data and are currently building our first algorithms for recommendations. Letterboxd is pretty barebones on that side, if we are speaking about movies. They just let you log films and compile lists, and that's it. Sure, they use their data for fancy lists and fun blog-posts but it doesn't seem to go any further in the product. Although some users explicitly ask them for it. (Reddit is currently down, can't find the thread about it.)

So what we are going to do is to provide not only the tools for tracking your backlog and syncing new games with some obvious additions like a wishlist, release calendar, etc., but also to help people discover more games based on their multiplatform games preference/experience. We feel like this place in the games industry is something that we could make a difference in.
 

Window

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,012
Damn I was just thinking about this and made a thread. Completely missed this one.
 

dock

Game Designer
Verified
Nov 5, 2017
866
I just tried out Letterboxd and it does seem pretty great. The moment it doesn’t have a movie you want to log it feels pretty awful, though. This would probably be a problem for games too, especially as games change or splinter with DLC and updates.
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
I just tried out Letterboxd and it does seem pretty great. The moment it doesn’t have a movie you want to log it feels pretty awful, though. This would probably be a problem for games too, especially as games change or splinter with DLC and updates.
If this help, we have coverage of Expansions that can be rated on their own even :) Also DLCs, Bundles, and Standalone Expansions.

And in the eventuality you cannot find a game in the database (we have about 190K entries so far) you can add (or edit) to the site as it works like an open wiki. That's how we get a lot of small indies for example, the devs themselves provide the info :)

For example, screengrab from the Hearthstone page:
 

kiich

Member
Jan 2, 2018
228
sighAlot

I hate to be this person but do we have an ETA for implementation of the new IGDB site you posted pics of a while ago?
I am really sorry if this is rude in any way.
 

Zemst

Member
Oct 27, 2017
937
i;m familar with glitchwave because of rateyourmusic but IGDB also looks decent.
 

sighAlot

Member
Jan 7, 2019
25
kiich Not at all! I'm even glad you ask :D

It's a beast of a site and therefore a big undertaking for a redesign. Plus, we're doing a lot of work in the backend as we are migrating tech the site is based on.
With that said, it is already in development :)

We will release in 'phases', to minimise headaches haha. Phase 1 will be the Discover (homepage) and the Games pages, Phase 2 would likely be the lists features and/or Profile pages, etc..

Phase 1 will release during Q1 this year!
 

Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,157
Wasnt there like a Raptr site or something that was similar to this?

I usually just use trophy sites to track this, like TrueTrophies etc. Obviously this isnt going to cover everyone's needs or platforms, but its got alot of data for you if you generally go for trophies
 

Arion

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,396
I've been using grouvee.com . It's a straightforward facsimile of goodreads for video games. It gets the job done.