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We are on the cusp of an Old School FPS renaissance. Are you ready?
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That's why this thread exists, games designed like this are rare these days so it's interesting they're coming back. It's like going into a dragon quest thread and complaining it's not AAA enough, it's part of the appeal and identity that they're not. You can't make games like this on a AAA budget because it would make them garbage.
I was really disappointed that Ion Maiden got delayed to early next yeari I must have played the demo campaign some 5 times now. Not to mention a good time spent in Queen of the Hill.
Where'd you hear this?
Also, I stumbled upon this and figured I'd share:
Really digging the music & spritework.
Cevat Yerli keeps the IP locked in a safe, occasionally opening the safe and whispering, "You will never be free. You will buried with me, unloved and forgotten," when nobody's watching. Or so I imagine.
Battlefield was once a PC exclusive sir, you are ENABLING the WANKFEST
this thread is literally a wankfest and intentionally at that lol
I am so ready, thanks for the thread! I feel like Quake Champions reignited my love for those games.
Randomly generated or actual level design? No save points? Why is that a selling point? No old shooters had save points. You could save anywhere.
I hated those old FPS games so this thread ain't for me. But I needed to do a quick driveby to note that Ion Maiden is a brilliant, brilliant name. I'd almost throw money at that for the title alone, regardless of genre.
I've actually been spending a lot of time playing actual old FPSs I hadn't played before and started to notice more and more how far modern FPSs had strayed from them. The main thing I miss is the focus on exploration, and the only modern AAA "old-style" FPS that really tries to do this is Doom 2016. Actually all of Bethesda's first person games of recent have had that focus on exploration. In particular I've been messing with Doom WADs. The most recent ones I started were Doom 64 Retribution, that new Doom 64 remix WAD, and Struggle: Antaresian Legacy which came out earlier this year and was apparently in development for like five years.
When I look at all these indie ones, I get that level design is probably the hardest part of these games to do, but it is kinda the one thing I miss the most. Many are procedurally generated, or mainly focus on the arena-style combat, and a lot of them oddly feel more like Wolfenstein 3D. There are actually A LOT of Wolf 3D clones on Steam that are just flat levels in first person. I think partially what happened is a lot of the talent that would've gone into these games is going into Doom WADs.
After I finish with all these old games I'll remember to check out Amid Evil, Ion Maiden, and Dusk when they're out of Early Access.
One other thing: Does anyone else prefer to play these games with low-fi 3D graphics in low-res? When I play Quake and Doom now I play them with the modern source ports but configured with old school settings. I started using the recent resolution scale command for Quakespasm and play GZDoom set to 200p, and obviously I turn off the texture filtering. I like how some of these indie games have this option -- I believe Dusk and Devil Daggers do, but I wish more did, like Ion Maiden (does it?). The art assets were originally made for those low resolutions and I personally don't gain anything from looking at them in crisp 1080p.
When I look at all these indie ones, I get that level design is probably the hardest part of these games to do, but it is kinda the one thing I miss the most. Many are procedurally generated, or mainly focus on the arena-style combat, and a lot of them oddly feel more like Wolfenstein 3D. There are actually A LOT of Wolf 3D clones on Steam that are just flat levels in first person. I think partially what happened is a lot of the talent that would've gone into these games is going into Doom WADs.
After I finish with all these old games I'll remember to check out Amid Evil, Ion Maiden, and Dusk when they're out of Early Access.
One other thing: Does anyone else prefer to play these games with low-fi 3D graphics in low-res? When I play Quake and Doom now I play them with the modern source ports but configured with old school settings. I started using the recent resolution scale command for Quakespasm and play GZDoom set to 200p, and obviously I turn off the texture filtering. I like how some of these indie games have this option -- I believe Dusk and Devil Daggers do, but I wish more did, like Ion Maiden (does it?). The art assets were originally made for those low resolutions and I personally don't gain anything from looking at them in crisp 1080p.
I always disable texture filtering and as many IQ options as I can without ruining my eyes. The sharp, gritty look fits old FPSes best, even at 1080p+ resolutions. Playing Doom at 320x200 is fun too.
I'd like to add that based on the early access content it is also a fantastic game!
Dope
Really looking forward to Ion Maiden also played a lot of the demo/beta thing
I hope the levels become just as varied and interesting as Duke3D
Oh good, the people ruining this lovely thread a few months back have been banned.
I don't have much to add at the moment besides
Ion Maiden is pretty great.
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I don't know how I missed Amid Evil but I think I'm going to buy it today.
I don't have much to add at the moment besides
Ion Maiden is pretty great.
and
I don't know how I missed Amid Evil but I think I'm going to buy it today.
I did! Aside from the hideous and virtually unreadable font, it looks great. Love those unfiltered textures.
Still getting a handle on the weapons but they feel appropriately Hexen-like.
Glad to hear!
Yeah, I definitely viewed it as more of a Hexen/Heretic affair, but once you get going it feels much closer to something like Quake. Plus they've just added a new episode to it!
Looks to be about a month so I was off a bit using 'just'!
https://steamcommunity.com/games/673130/announcements/detail/1692681328266033920
Yep we put out Episode 5 a few weeks ago and Episode 6 will be playable at PAX Aus.
ALSO WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH DUSK WUHHHHHHHHH (release date soon)
Moreover the verdict on Project Warlock is GOOD: https://youtu.be/xcknq-wQn3E
ALSO WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH DUSK WUHHHHHHHHH (release date soon)
Moreover the verdict on Project Warlock is GOOD: https://youtu.be/xcknq-wQn3E
New Blood's games are coming to the Switch, don't know about anybody else.
People are gonna need to tell me how Project Warlock is.
I read an article about the guy who made it -- he's actually only 19, he was born in 1998, but his dad introduced him to 2.5D shooters like Doom, Heretic, Blood, etc. Apparently level design is supposed to be a big component, and that's what I'm most curious about. Earlier I said the screenshots and videos made it look similar to a lot of other indie FPSs of recent that honestly look closer to Wolf 3D due to their flatness.
I read an article about the guy who made it -- he's actually only 19, he was born in 1998, but his dad introduced him to 2.5D shooters like Doom, Heretic, Blood, etc. Apparently level design is supposed to be a big component, and that's what I'm most curious about. Earlier I said the screenshots and videos made it look similar to a lot of other indie FPSs of recent that honestly look closer to Wolf 3D due to their flatness.
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Crosspost from the Project Warlock Thread:
Pros:
+ Nice look and aesthetic both to the environments and enemies. Ran smoothly for me throughout.
+ Nice enemy variety, each act has it's own unique enemy set and within the act new enemies show up gradually throughout.
+ The guns feel *great*, the dual uzis especially feel great to unload with.
+ The last act is fantastic, definitely the high point of the game. If only the whole game were paced like that.
Cons:
- It's too god damned dark. I spent the whole damn game holding down my right mouse button to use the light spell so I could see what I was doing. I get that the dude was proud of his lighting system, but he went way overboard here.
- The in game map is worthless. You can't see doors, it shows areas you haven't been so you can't figure out where to explore, it's just a big grey blob of nothing. You also can't full screen the map, you're stuck with the minimap in the corner.
- The end boss was really underwhelming. The concept and look of it were neat but it died so fast that I couldn't tell what it was supposed to be doing.
Highly subjective nit pick:
: The soundtrack for me was a big miss. Most of it felt like random amiga tracks from the demoscene days and didn't fit the action at all. They threw in some metal in the last act which was appreciated, but it wasn't particularly good metal so... yea.
All in all I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's definitely not on par with Overload, Dusk or Amid Evil (we haven't seen enough of Ion Maiden to judge that one yet) but if you already have those 3 games and want more retro shooter goodness then this is worth a get.
Project Warlock just isn't connecting with me. I don't want to be too negative, cause I don't want to be down on a young person who's trying their hand at indie development. Props to him for giving a go at it, but I feel like it misses the mark as far as feeling like a 90s shooter.
They need to hurry up and give me Ion Maiden, but this is excellent news none the less!
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Ion Maiden was delayed until Q2 next year. They want to do a simultaneous release on consoles, so they are sitting on it while the ports get completed.
Yep, booted Steam and had the nice surprise of an update containing the new map. Only spent 30mins with it but it seems to be of the same high quality as the last.
Still a bit pissed that the pc version got delayed for console ports though.
Wasn't a big fan of immortal redneck... but I need as many FPS as I can get on my Switch. Need a new direct ASAP.
Bumping to remind everyone that Amid Evil officially released this past Thursday. Currently on sale on steam and gog for 20% off. ($16)
Other notable titles worth checking out...
- Project Warlock
- Maximum Action
- Elderborn (melee based)
- Revulsion
- Compound
- Gun Godz
- Hermodr
So much goodness.
- Project Warlock
- Maximum Action
- Elderborn (melee based)
- Revulsion
- Compound
- Gun Godz
- Hermodr
So much goodness.
Can anyone recommend a modern day 1st person shooter that plays like the original Doom on PC? I'm not a fan of Bethesda's Doom, so that's a no go.
I want to pick up Ion Maiden if its part of the steam sale, but the combo of the game being in early access and the lawsuit stuff going on makes me afraid to do so.
The first and second Bioshock titles and Wolfenstein 2009 at best depending on your definition of modern. Maybe the Rise of the Triad 2013 remake and Dusk. Otherwise there aren't any.
