I don't see it as a choice. I see it as a requirement. A hundred different media companies want you to be forced to interact with them on a direct basis because they've all got something you want.
You're absolutely right there but the fact that it even needs to be said is shameful. No one deserves to be treated like that, and certainly not over EGS exclusivity deals of all things. It's ludicrous and I'm glad it's something this site has no tolerance for.
This is what I thought this thread would be about.
Speaking of editing posts, are you going to edit the misinformation in this post? I went and read the thread because it sounded wild, but this misrepresents the events quite a bit, regardless of whether you feel how moderation handled things was fair or not.
Because the only reason I post on the internet is to argue with strangers.
We don't know that though we only know of three instances where sales have been mentioned and two are positive, the other was numbers but it wasn't positive in how they were portraying. Maybe it's better than I think but it seems pretty transparent when if sales were amazing, epic would be yelling from the rooftops.
Yeah you are allowed to because that's exactly what people did with tomb raider and guess what it sold way less than it could have. It's the same thing with egs store except way more pronounced and if epic gets its way than way more determental to pc gaming.
You're using the analogy incorrectly, which is one of the major cruxes of why this back and forth never ends, because it's always these poorly thought-out examples. To use your analogy, Taco bell is not the platform here, it's the developer. They're basically like EA. They develop their own food menu, EA makes their own games. They make their own stores, EA made Origin. They sell their doritos tacos and baja blasts at taco bell stores, EA sells their games on Origin. This is not a choice of platform. What EGS does would be the equivalent of having Walmart walking in and buying out Taco Bell's menu and saying they can only sell it out of their grocery isle. Or say Kraft could only sell their mac & cheese at Whole Foods now because Amazon bought the rights to sell it.
Maybe if you need a massive Google doc to explain your grievance and people still don't get it, it's because it's not as big of a grievance as you make it out to be.
Or people continuously act in bad faith and refuse to try and understand the grievances, because they didn't just appear out of thin air, they have solid reasoning and explanations behind them that continuously gets dismissed by more of the same "it's just another launcher" rhetoric. It's frustrating, and there's no solution to it.
I remember seeing this doc somewhere, tried to see if it was in the op but apparently it, or I am tired. The idea was not about whether it is fair or not to criticize the EGS, but the behavior displayed while doing so, which can be excessive sometimes. As far as i am concerned i am just waiting, there are no exclusives I am in a rush to get, except maybe the rebeml galaxy game one day, but I will see
Or maybe it's because people want to just shitpost in a thread without actually learning about why people have their grievances with EGS in the first place. Have you actually taken the time to READ the document, it's probably the best resource for anyone looking to educate themselves on why people don't like EGS.
i don't know maybe initially but anymore I feel it's completely accurate.
i guess it depends but to me with how epic has acted and shown, it could turn out much much worst, maybe it won't but I'd rather not have it lead that way if it can be prevented.
It's not about steam, it's about consumer choice. It's about having games available on the PC platform, regardless of the storefront/launcher. GOG, Stream, Fanatical, GMG, Amazon, all the other stores I don't remember off the top of my head. It's about the platform being reduced from a myriad of options to 1.
What you're describing is the lack of empathy that's been noted several times in this thread, which leads to the same thing.
Imagine saying that people are in a cult in a thread about not saying shit like this.
Once again, this has nothing to do with where you're going. We're not talking about "certain products" from "certain retailers". We're talking about ubiquitous products being bought out and shoved into a specific retailer after the fact, when this was never a practice before. This is a fundamental difference that you're not grasping. Like again, take Kraft Mac & Cheese (or some other generic product you purchase anywhere). You can find this literally anywhere: Grocery stores, gas stations, online, anywhere. But then Amazon (EGS) walks in and says no, you can't do that, whole foods only (or insert some obscure place you never shop at).
This kind of post is really frustrating. Being against the current incarnation of EGS and how they're doing business =/= championing Steam. This exact thing has been discussed to death already and refuted.
I reported them as soon as I saw their post. I swear some people either willfully ignore thread marks and mod posts or they're just looking to catch a ban or warning. Makes no sense to me
It doesn't help that it's out of date. Regardless though I think it's a good resource and it's worth taking a minute to skim through it if someone cares enough about the topic to get into arguments about it on a forum. (It's also not actually that long of a read, it's got a lot of blank space and it's using fairly large type) Still you're right in that there really needs to be a 1 page TLDR kind of introduction to the topic with solid points for and against EGS, maybe it could be used as a new more encompassing [Staff Post].
its not especially when the person has been explained it and even if they don't agree just parrots the same points over and over. I call that arguing in bad faith and there's been plenty of that especially in egs threads.
I agree that some may not be but I don't believe for a second that just as many are arguing in bad faith.
of course, im just pointing out how the mods are quick to shutdown any discussion regarding the community even if it is well written and thought out.
