We now have to pay $126 for the Pokemon experience. Worth it?

[Everywhere]

$60 for the game.
$30 for the expansion.
$16 for global trading and storage service. (yearly)
$20 for online play. (yearly)

Total of $126, compared to $80 from past generations (vanilla plus third version).

And if you pay $126 you are still not getting the whole thing. There are still missing features and Pokemons from past games.

I was planning to get Sword/Shield when the full DLC drops, but when you put all those prices down on paper you have to question yourself: is Pokemon in its current state worth all that money?

I'm inclined to say no. What says ERA?

 

[Komo]

Honestly no. It's not what we were promised, and frankly I'd rather give my money to someone else who won't backtrack every word they say. Because who know what else their gonna screw up with the DLC. (probably dlc gate some random stuff)

 

[Lady Bow]

I got the Pokemon experience with $60 though?

 

[OhMyZach]

You only have to pay 60 bucks for the Pokemon experience. All those other things are optional and not necessary for completing Pokedex, aside from Nintendo Switch Online

 

[RockmanBN]

Lol no. That's for the full Gen 8 experience if you trade with others.

 

[Blue Hedgehog]

If you're only planning on playing Sword/Shield then you don't really need Home because you're not gonna be collecting Pokemon that aren't in Sword/Shield

 

[entrydenied]

I'm a very casual pokemon games player but isn't missing features a thing for every new gen? It seems like there's always new features but some old ones from previous gens will get dropped.

 

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

The first mainline pokemon game I did not get. To me it was not even worth 60 (80 cad).

 

[kittens]

I lost interest a few gens ago even when the games were just $40.

 

[starblue]

People will pay anyways, look at the sales numbers...

 

[Adam_Roman]

I had plenty of fun with Sword for $54. I don't feel like I didn't get "the Pokemon experience".

Edit: Got the price wrong.

 

[Hyperfludd]

Why would you get home at all if you're just getting pokemon sword/shield?

 

[Raccoon]

I mean, Pokémon isn't multiplatform, so you have to buy a Switch too; make it $426

 

[Bishop89]

I think it's ridiculous the global trading isn't part of the online subscription fee.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Don't forget the Switch, and the TV, and Utilities and Rent and the hookers to trade with.

 

[DaiJyoubs]

Noooo, the full experience is the $60 game. Everything else isn't required. Only get HOME if you want some past Pokémon back or breed A LOT. The base game has 960 slots to work with.
Do we take into account Xbox live or PS+ for the "full cost" of any game? Cause if we did then every online game on those platforms cost $120.

You only have to pay 60 bucks for the Pokemon experience. All those other things are optional and not necessary for completing Pokedex, aside from Nintendo Switch Online

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Global trading is actually free when you use the GTS via HOME as it shouldn't require Nintendo Online. You can just request the stuff you need now.

 

[Yesterday]

Don't forget the Switch. and the electric bill to charge the switch. and the house to keep the electricity in.

 

[dyreschlock]

Technically I'm still playing less than Gen VII, since I bought Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon.

 

[lvl 99 Pixel]

You pay for the game then for the DLC expansion like any other game does? Seems cheaper than buying the Ultra/Third version to get the "full experience"

 

[Sandfox]

I think it's ridiculous the global training isn't part of the online subscription fee.

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GTS isn't part of the Pokemon Home fee either.

 

[jdh96]

Nah, what's more outrageous is charging 60$ for games that have less content then the 40$ Pokémon games on the 3ds.

 

[affeinvasion]

Forget all the extras. It's not even worth the $60 for the base game.

 

[Cronogear]

Shield was legitimately one of the worst games I've ever played, but this is a silly thread.

Everything you posted, short of Home, is completely normal for games these days. If you want to complain about the price of Home, then do that.

 

[Qubie]

 

[Megatron]

What does global trading and storage do and why do I need it? I traded with some friends online. I also have done surprise trades (got Rowlet today)

 

[Le Dude]

If you're adding the cost of online into the mix, then aren't all PS4/Xbox One games with online $120+DLC?

EDIT: And with previous games having a third version, wasn't it $80 for the game plus third version VS $90 for Sw/Sh and the expansion? That's like a 15% increase, which is pretty reasonable considering the move from portable to home console.

 

[Roliq]

Considering that they let you keep pokemon that are over 18 years old i can see why they do it, that doesn't come cheap,

Also what is with people only complaining about the NSO when Pokemon is involved, you don't see it when talking about Smash, Mario Kart, Splatoon

 

[StephenNotStrange]

What is "Pokemon experience?
I have playing the Pokemon for over 20 years, with SwSh, I only bought for the core game (haven't purchased the DLC yet) but I still can get all Pokemon in the game dex, play it like the old one.

And FYI, Home have a free plan, so you don't need to pay for it if you don't really need. So that was optional.

beside, you pay online to play multiple games, not just Pokemon (why would you do that??)

 

[Derenden]

As it's been said, the full experience is only $60 (less if you buy it used or in a sale)

The rest is completely optional

Edit: damnn, beaten hahaha

 

[Phendrana]

Noooo, the full experience is the $60 game.

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The $60 game is a shallow experience with less content than any previous gen.

 

[Mewzard]

$60 for the game.
$30 for the expansion.
$16 for global trading and storage service. (yearly)
$20 for online play. (yearly)

Total of $126, compared to $80 from past generations (vanilla plus third version).

And if you pay $126 you are still not getting the whole thing. There are still missing features and Pokemons from past games.

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This feels a tad disingenuous.

If the old games were priced the same as Sword/Shield, that would be $120 before tax on two games ($180 if you wanted all three). Not even counting the expense if you were getting multiple GBs/GBAs/DSes/3DSes for the purpose of trading, and Link Cables for the older handhelds.

The online cost applies to the whole system's online. Odds are quite high if you've bought the Switch and some games, you were going to get the online anyways, not as a Pokemon-exclusive expense.

The DLC is entirely optional to get Pokemon, all you need is the free update to trade.

Hell, I haven't seen anything about losing Pokemon from Home if you aren't subbed, so what's stopping someone from just doing a one month go at $3, trading everything to Home, and letting it lapse until it's needed to add more Pokemon?

Nah, what's more outrageous is charging 60$ for games that have less content then the 40$ Pokémon games on the 3ds.

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Nintendo charges full price for their first party titles and Switch games are $60. They were never going to charge $40 for a Switch Pokemon game under any circumstance.

 

[Slamtastic]

For plenty of us it will only be $90.

 

[Unkindled]

It wasn't even worth the 60$ experience

 

[Ghos]

 

[Keyouta]

The worst thing about those prices is that Pokemon Home isn't included within the Nintendo Online service.

 

[DaiJyoubs]

The $60 game is a shallow experience with less content than any previous gen.

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Yep, both of our statements are true.

 

[Normal]

Main game + Expansion (better than a third version for full price) + Pokemon Showdown is all you need.

 

[Roliq]

The worst thing about those prices is that Pokemon Home isn't included within the Nintendo Online service.

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Why would it be included? I'm pretty sure that outside of the main games Nintendo has nothing to do with Pokemon

 

[AllMight1]

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this is gold.
But yes, This is what pokemon asks for and more

 

[Rockets]

Charging $16 a year for Home is highway robbery

 

[Hailinel]

How many generations of Pokemon games have you bought to this point, OP?

 

[StephenNotStrange]

The $60 game is a shallow experience with less content than any previous gen.

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shallow or not, the "Pokemon experience" is only $60, you still play like the old one, still can do what the old one let you do, everything else is optional.

 

[Vivian-Pogo]

That's "A Pokemon experience", not "The Pokemon experience."

I imagine most Pokemon players just want a campaign to play through and maybe trade and battle their friends, and that's "the Pokemon experience" to them.

Paid online always sucks, but including the NSO price is a bit weird, unless Pokemon is the only game on Switch you play online. Expansion passes are for people who want more like any other game with add on content. The base game is still a full Pokemon game. Now if they still come out with a 3rd version despite the expansion pass, that'll seem pretty lame.

For the people that want all that, it's pretty expensive I'll agree. Home is personally too pricy for me for what it does so I have no intention of paying that.

 

[Lusamine]

go back to your old thread op lol

Fire Emblem Three Houses is a remarkable achievement

I'm in awe with this game. Character models are fully animated and they look so good. IS did an amazing job at bringing FE characters to life, wow. Quality voice action for pretty much every interaction? Yes. A full 3D map for you to explore and interact with, everything is very fluid and...

www.resetera.com

 

[hersheyfan]

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LOL. Thank you for posting this, still a classic.

 

[gaiages]

You can do this with like... any game, you know.

Monster Hunter World's "full experience" is $60 base game + $40 expansion + $60 PS+ = $160
Super Smash Bros Ultimate's "full experience" is $60 base game + $30 for Fighter Pass 1 + $30 for Fighter Pass 2 + $20 for Switch Online = $140
and so on

First off attributing an entire online service to a single game is a bit disingenuous, as if you literally play any other game online or like, I dunno, download the NES/SNES games or use cloud saves or whatever that's just completely false. If you wanted to be technical you'd take the number of features/games you use the service with and divide it up, but that makes the total a bit lower, which doesn't work with your ill-advised point.

Second off, Home is not required if you're only playing Sword/Shield. So if you have other games from the Pokemon series to transfer up to Home, are you going to add in those game costs as well? Turns out for the full FULL experience you need about seven generations of games I guess so that price skyrocketed real quick.

Finally:

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[BanetteAndBaguette]

While are those things you mentionned are optional, the game certainly feels empty and rushed when you pay 60 bucks

 

[RoboitoAM]

Not even the $60 experience is worth it

 

[lvl 99 Pixel]

You can do this with like... any game, you know.

Monster Hunter World's "full experience" is $60 base game + $40 expansion + $60 PS+ = $160
Super Smash Bros Ultimate's "full experience" is $60 base game + $30 for Fighter Pass 1 + $30 for Fighter Pass 2 + $20 for Switch Online = $140
and so on

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Yeah it really doesn't make much sense. Like Ace Combat 7 was 60, +40 dollar season pass and also PS+ is 160 for the "ace combat experience"

 

[Ramsay]

Hell no. If Sword and Shield were any good, then paying that much money might have been tolerable, but definitely not with Sword and Shield as they are now.