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We should give people like Milo a platform, Says Jaffe; not doing so is ruining the country. Defends himself with NPC memes.
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No we can't be next because we dont spout lies, ignorance and hate.
Capital idea, Jaffe. Let's also give ISIS fanatics a platform too, but I doubt you're willing to advocate for that as well.
20 posts since Nov 2017. Hmm.
20 posts since Nov 2017. Hmm.
It's interesting how the radical left isn't advocating hate against anyone, yet rarely do people stick up for their right to a platform.
I don't think "The Middle" (if that's what Jaffe is here...) are standing up for free speech so much as guaranteeing they're the only ones in the public sphere presenting an alternative to barbarism. Socialism offers solutions to both big global crises, and restoring a rising standard of living for 99% of people. Yet it is shunned from big public forums because it points the finger at the numerically tiny ruling elite class.
I don't think "The Middle" (if that's what Jaffe is here...) are standing up for free speech so much as guaranteeing they're the only ones in the public sphere presenting an alternative to barbarism. Socialism offers solutions to both big global crises, and restoring a rising standard of living for 99% of people. Yet it is shunned from big public forums because it points the finger at the numerically tiny ruling elite class.
Facebook if they do not want to be considered a publisher, or Twitter if they do not want to be considered a publisher. You know these giant social media forums that like to hide behind the law when it comes to liable but also want to pretend it does not apply to them when they start censoring content and people.
I don't like Milo. I think he has a right to his opinion though. He should have every right to say what he wants in a public forum as long as it is not a call to action. You know like yelling fire in a building full of people.
If we do it y'alls way we end up banning all speach because it today's world everyone finds everything offensive one way or another.
Rubbish. Hate speech should NEVER be given a platform. This is basic stuff.
So is he saying private companies should be forced to let anyone and everyone spew what ever nonsense that pops into their empty heads?
20 in a year... 20.
Saying this when even the right told Milo to fuck off after he started defending pedophiles is quite something.
Fuck off Jaffe.
Fuck off Jaffe.
What do you mean? Just look just how charming and witty his last game was...
/s obviously.
Facebook and Twitter have since their inception been dictating who is and who isn't allowed to post on their sites.
What do you want, exactly? The government to step in?
Where do people get the idea that the most pure form of freedom of speech is a scenario where all ideas are broadcasted with maximum force at all times?
A version of the marketplace of ideas that is as responsive to bad ideas as it is to good ones is broken. People have a right to choose what kind of nonsense to allow on their platforms. Feel free to seek out Milo's unique brand of nonsense, but forgive those of us who are a little more discerning.
A version of the marketplace of ideas that is as responsive to bad ideas as it is to good ones is broken. People have a right to choose what kind of nonsense to allow on their platforms. Feel free to seek out Milo's unique brand of nonsense, but forgive those of us who are a little more discerning.
As society we deem some opinions as having no value. Sexual assault, murder, child pornography, etc. these are extreme cases
I think racism and sexism fit in there too.
Obviously people need to be made aware of their habits that are racist/sexist and then given the opportunity to change.
But people whose whole platform is they hate groups of people, yeah that adds nothing positive to society and while I understand the need to protect free speech, we have to draw the line somewhere
I think racism and sexism fit in there too.
Obviously people need to be made aware of their habits that are racist/sexist and then given the opportunity to change.
But people whose whole platform is they hate groups of people, yeah that adds nothing positive to society and while I understand the need to protect free speech, we have to draw the line somewhere
Milo is not given a gag in his mouth, he can still spout whatever he wants, finding an audience is his problem. Twitter, Facebook et al. are not beholden to give him a platform.
Shutting racists down and not letting them spread hate speech, USA's 1st problem.
Keep strong my American ERA comrades, my thoughts to your loss.
Keep strong my American ERA comrades, my thoughts to your loss.
I haven't watched the whole video, but I get his point about college. College is where you're supposed to learn to question stuff and judge things for yourself. It makes sense to me that you need to expose people to both good and bad so they can learn to judge for themselves and tell the difference. Surely full censorship or erasure of (bad) ideas is how we get history to repeat itself.
It's a decent starting point, but it presumes a democratic polity who gets to decide what constitutes an intolerant position. In reality those decisions are made by economic elite TV producers, newspaper editors, and university board members. Why do we deplatform Milo, but not the architects of the Iraq War? As despicable as Milo's statements, he hasn't killed 500k+ innocent civilians.
Should The Taliban, ISIS or KKK get to hold a speech at my college then? Y'know...so I can see the bad ideas as well?
What the fuck is this shit?!
America's obsession with giving equal voice and platform to people who are obviously terrible is kind of, well terrible. If your POV is one of racism, misogyny, anti equal rights, pro white nationalism, there should be a concerted effort by the media and society in general shut you out. Period. Point blank!
America's obsession with giving equal voice and platform to people who are obviously terrible is kind of, well terrible. If your POV is one of racism, misogyny, anti equal rights, pro white nationalism, there should be a concerted effort by the media and society in general shut you out. Period. Point blank!
It's obvious what hate speech is. Racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia... speech that is directed to minorities or peoples with the intent to cause harm.
Why would you let people fucking talk. You let them fucking talk and people will listen and take their ideologies and use them.
Imagine being the asshole that says "our country is suffering" because of trashbags of flesh like Milo getting 'deplatformed'. Imagine the privilege of it all.
