someone in this thread already spoke to him so if you really want to get off on hearing people "duke it out" go watch the vod
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We should give people like Milo a platform, Says Jaffe; not doing so is ruining the country. Defends himself with NPC memes.
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someone in this thread already spoke to him so if you really want to get off on hearing people "duke it out" go watch the vod
Awwshucks in the locked thread said:
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Maybe Jaffe ALREADY has an account...
Only kidding. Mostly.
Let him create an account here and debate it. He is not interested in debate, he is interested in promoting his podcast. He could have answered Phantom Thief's question, instead he choose to promote. He's full for shit and no one here should go on that shit podcast.
I thought he might be taking the high road up until the point in his vid where he goes "You can't say something somebody disagrees with without people treating you like you're a goddamn moron?....Sorry I had a different opinion than you did." Because that's what giving Milo a platform is, just an opinion that exists in a vacuum and has no implications as to what kind of person you are or the damage you'd inflict if your opinion became reality.
FYI the "recommended videos" when you watch that video are a doozy (inPrivate browsing). So sorry Jaffe, even if you sincerely think you're not alt-right, Youtube's algorithms have definitely decided otherwise.
Oh wow, he's amused read this thread.
Actually, he thinks it's funny.
I guess it shows just how many "critical" thinkers exist within US of A given:
1. They elected Dolan Trump
2. They demonize socialized healthcare because among other things, the word "social-ism" is a taboo
3. Measures introduced to combat gun violence is objectively not commensurate with the continued body count racked up during gun related violence
4. They elected the man who lies every single day, berates Antifa and both sides Neo Nazi violence, is a sexist, vilifies the press with implied violence, is a racist, appeals to the baser instincts of fragile masculinity, can't form cogent sentences most of the time, tweets like an inbred duck, maligns people who are not loyal to him and cozies up to dictators and despots wanna be. All this because the people were feeling economic anxiety and because he tells it like it is.
Yes, Americans and their capacity for critical thinking in an age of over abundance of stimulating information and misinformation in the perennial torrential downpour known as social media.
It is amazing just how fast americans have moved on from the package bombs which highlighted that words have power when they reach their target audience.
1. They elected Dolan Trump
2. They demonize socialized healthcare because among other things, the word "social-ism" is a taboo
3. Measures introduced to combat gun violence is objectively not commensurate with the continued body count racked up during gun related violence
4. They elected the man who lies every single day, berates Antifa and both sides Neo Nazi violence, is a sexist, vilifies the press with implied violence, is a racist, appeals to the baser instincts of fragile masculinity, can't form cogent sentences most of the time, tweets like an inbred duck, maligns people who are not loyal to him and cozies up to dictators and despots wanna be. All this because the people were feeling economic anxiety and because he tells it like it is.
Yes, Americans and their capacity for critical thinking in an age of over abundance of stimulating information and misinformation in the perennial torrential downpour known as social media.
It is amazing just how fast americans have moved on from the package bombs which highlighted that words have power when they reach their target audience.
You may not like it, but this is what peak "open-mindedness" looks like!
Indeed. I think it's actually a very powerful tool. The problem is when the hate speech is disguised as political and nationalistic fervor the banning is more tricky.
The format is kind of how you do it IRL, just direct communication, it isnt that foreign a concept I hope. It certainly beats him making an account here, where he will be instantly jumped. I think you should do it, PT!
Looks like Mr Jaffe would fit right in at the old place, I think they could really use some industry veterans there to regain some credibility.
Here's some reading material for people not familiar with Milo (like David Jaffe):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Controversies
https://mic.com/articles/188697/mil...is-privilege-charity-for-white-men#.ZL6l1nZKh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Controversies
https://mic.com/articles/188697/mil...is-privilege-charity-for-white-men#.ZL6l1nZKh
Probably not worth it, It's actually pretty tricky to have a discussion with people argueing in bad faith in a live format.
Nothing's stopping Jaffe from just making an account here. Well, except that people would show him up and he'd get mad, break the TOS and get banned very quickly.
It's also pretty funny, because if there's something i've noticed in all of this, is that he constantly called everyone who disagreed with him on Twitter "dumb" and "dense". He hasn't bothered to actually address any points in any of his answers. Every single one of them is just him going on personal attacks.
Having a debate on a stream, especially *his* stream, is more than just a normal conversation. There's no way PT should even consider it, it's so dumb
It's straight out of the Colin Moriarty book of how should i deal with someone who said something slightly negative of me
"I don't know anything about this, but here is why everyone who disagrees with me is dumb"
now this i'd love to see
Jaffe would get demolished in every possible angle lmao
Even if Phantom did step up to it, he'd just curse expletives and shout over him cos he mad right now.
That's why it's better for Destiny to debate him, because they both curse and get angry!
Match made in heaven.
learn to read, he clearly states that actually, it's all kind of funny.
I love that it's the responsibility of other people to inform him rather than maybe doing his own research, though maybe that'll make things worse for him.
tbh, doing one's own research or educating oneself is a lot more difficult nowadays what with sites like breitbart and all the fake news out there.
Ooh nice, I'll give it a listen.
Would be really interesting to hear this too.
That's debatable. I know he got banned from here though.
Yeah, but he's not really that open to having his mind changed unless it's done the most perfect way possible.
This started as a post in the now-locked thread, so posting here instead.
You cannot sit on your ass calling people "dumbass" and "fucks" while *literally* complaining about "the other side" doing the same thing. At that point, you are no better than "them."
I hate Milo, and I think he deserved to be de-platformed. The question is "when does this begin to interfere with freedom of speech?"
There's a lot of talk on Resetera about critical thinking, being progressive, and trying to be better as a person every day. But not a lot of y'all are doing it. Instead, you're in here, acting like this.
Posts like this are why Resetera gets a bad reputation. This post is ignorant, hypocritical, and promotes nothing but negativity. The only difference is "b-b-but I'm in the right!"
You cannot sit on your ass calling people "dumbass" and "fucks" while *literally* complaining about "the other side" doing the same thing. At that point, you are no better than "them."
This, while a funny comment, is completely and utterly useless, and adds nothing to the discourse at hand. This comment might as well say "yes, but what has he contributed lately?" And what has Miyamoto contributed in that same time span? Star Fox Zero. But Miyamoto will be celebrated regardless, due to his legacy. Unless, of course, Gattsu just actually doesn't know who he is. In which case, fair question, my dude! Sorry if it seems like I came at you. <3
That's the problem, though. It isn't. The other Jaffe thread and this one have already had comments that could be called toxic and hateful. While his wording isn't the best, the issue is that there's a sense of "one sided-ness" to threads on the forum. Whether that's because of poor (or willfully ignorant) moderation, or just an overwhelming amount of toxicity towards certain subjects, Resetera has a major tendency to have very harsh reactions to things, both positive and negative.
I hate Milo, and I think he deserved to be de-platformed. The question is "when does this begin to interfere with freedom of speech?"
So yes, he can be de-platformed from Youtube, Twitter, whatever-- because those are private platforms. But at what point does a social and thus public platform become a platform that isn't considered private? Legally, this is a messy area and one that we've never accounted for. You can pay to run hate speech in a newspaper, but they get to turn you down because those newspapers are private platforms.
There's a lot of talk on Resetera about critical thinking, being progressive, and trying to be better as a person every day. But not a lot of y'all are doing it. Instead, you're in here, acting like this.
Hey come now, I don't see where everything is stated clearly or otherwise. What post or tweet or what have you are you referring to. Telling someone to learn to read something he cannot or has not seen is low.
Brock Reiher was just being sarcastic, because Jaffe was obviously actually pretty butthurt despite claiming he was amused.
A) Definitely way past the point of Milo being kicked off of social media.
B) part of being a progressive, 'better' person is calling out people making bad arguments in bad faith.
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did you somehow miss Jaffe going on personal attacks at literally everyone who disagreed with him on twitter? Did you bother to actually follow the situation? Dude continously refuses to address any points, the only thing he can do is insult people.
And yes Youtube and Twitter and whatever are private platforms and will always be. Forcing them to host content they dont want is actually a violation of free speech. This is not up for debate.
Most definitely. I hope Jaffe can change his mind. A debate certainly wouldn't do that, though.
Ah man, no matter how many times I see this, no matter where, it still hasn't gotten old.