I'm curious how the rare Pokéballs are obtained, also want to know if the pal balls are actually obtainable
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Well it's that time of year again, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl copies out in the wild and leaking (SPOILERS)
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They deadass be giving even the first Cynthia fight a motherfucking Yache SD chomp with pretty good EVs and perfect IVs I fucking-
Before you could hope it used Dragon Rush and missed or used Giga Impact and had to recover a turn and try to OHKO with a strong ice move. Now? Haaahahaha dear lord
I expected a rollercoaster since it's Pokémon on ERA after all but this thread has given me major whiplash.
Looking forward to next week. 😘
Looking forward to next week. 😘
If I were to get it, I'm fixing a old ass gripe from long ago, where my friend and I intended on buying Pearl, but had to settle for Diamond instead because that's all they had left at the time
Gen 4 was the first and only time I struggled to find a Pokemon game on launch day/week lol, so I took what they had
Pearl. The original Pearl was a very formative game for me as a kid. I had 400 hours on my file, which was many, many more than any other game I'd ever played. So it just feels very right that after so many years, I'm gonna get to play Pearl, largely as it was, once more. A "coming home after a long time" sort of feeling.
Which is not to say I don't want the Platinum content, because I absolutely do. But I'm trying to see the bright side here lol.
The big postgame one seems to be that the gym leader rematches and E4 rematches are actually appropriately challenging and using Platinum teams, especially the E4 rematches which have a second round of very well optimized rematches. So there's actually some very solid challenge to be had contrary to what we were expecting. Additionally, National Dex Pokemon seek to be available early on in the game via underground for more team options. I've also been seeing that Exp. Share may be better balanced than initially expected, but I'll need to see more before I fully buy into that.
Gym Leader rematches as much as you want (w/ competitive movesets in the 60's and 70"s)
2 tiers of Elite 4 Rematches where Pokemon are in the 70's and 80's (again, with competitive movesets)
VS Seeker (refight all overworld trainers)
Rowan's assistant rematch (Pokemon in the 60's or 70's)
Tons of legendaries to catch - this is pretty standard these days.
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Basically the quality and quantity of these superbosses is unmatched in the series. And they're all refightable as much as you want.
These are -not- common features, although they should be. VS Seeker hasn't been in a game since Platinum 2009, and with refightable Gym Leaders you have to go back to HGSS in 2010.
Stronger E4 has been common in the last decade, but the strongest Champion match here is Level 88 which is 10 levels higher than the previous high Lv. 78 (Platinum)
Just... Tons of good stuff for replayability if you're someone who wants a challenge for your new teams but doesn't want to have to find that challenge in online play.
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Also we found out the Day 1 patch size and it's big enough to almost guarantee that the battle themes will be fixed.
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I was initially 100% going to get Diamond but now I don't know. If everybody I know picks up Diamond as well I'll probably get Pearl instead to make completing the pokedex easier for myself even though I hate Palkia compared to Dialga.
Pearl. It's my birthstone and I like Palkia way more than Dialga.
Forget the music, this is what I want out of the patch lol
Can only be caught in Brilliant Diamond:
- Silcoon
- Murkrow
- Aron
- Stunky
- Larvitar
- Kecleon
- Mightyena
- Mr. Mime
- Skuntank
- Scyther
- Seel
- Dewgong
- Cascoon
- Dustox
- Misdreavus
- Slowpoke
- Stantler
- Bagon
- Sudowoodo
- Houndoom
- Glameow
- Purugly
- Pinsir
- Spheal
- Sealeo
Thank you so much! Going by this list, I'll most likely get the Shining Pearl version.
I was looking at the legendary encounter table and noticed that there are actually two encounters listed for Giratina. One is the Altered Forme encounter in Turnback Cave we already saw earlier today (with the regular Legendary Pokemon music set to play); but the other is a Origin Forme encounter with Giratina's Platinum theme set to play.
I assume this HAS to have something to do with the Distortion Room in Ramanas Park
but before now I assumed you'd just get the Griseous Orb there with no battle. Now i'm not so sure; is there a second Giratina to catch? Can you only battle Origin Forme Giratina if you go to the room before Turnback Cave? We'll just have to wait and see, since these rooms don't function properly in the current version.
It's probably worth nothing that the two Giratina encounters are also marked as "tokushu" (special); a distinction shared with Rotom, Darkrai and Shaymin. Not sure what the relevance of that is yet.
I assume this HAS to have something to do with the Distortion Room in Ramanas Park
but before now I assumed you'd just get the Griseous Orb there with no battle. Now i'm not so sure; is there a second Giratina to catch? Can you only battle Origin Forme Giratina if you go to the room before Turnback Cave? We'll just have to wait and see, since these rooms don't function properly in the current version.
It's probably worth nothing that the two Giratina encounters are also marked as "tokushu" (special); a distinction shared with Rotom, Darkrai and Shaymin. Not sure what the relevance of that is yet.
They probably are; these are just from the wild encounter tables. Pokemon you get as gifts (like the fossils) wouldn't be there.
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Tyranitar and Scizor? Easiest Diamond of my life
Really love reading all of these postgame discoveries. It's not quite the same as full Platinum content, but the best rematches in the franchise isn't bad. Odd approach but I'm not mad.
Really love reading all of these postgame discoveries. It's not quite the same as full Platinum content, but the best rematches in the franchise isn't bad. Odd approach but I'm not mad.
Those rematches look really painful, Cynthia team during the Elite Four rematch is brutal her Garchomp has the everything move set and IV and it's level 88.
Look at the rematches..
Look at the rematches..
The Pokeradar seems to be in as well, going by text dumps, so it could be related to that as well.
Okey that cynthia team is actually really cool. And the rematches are also hard.
Edit: lmao the Togekiss set in the rematch is Para flinch.
Edit: lmao the Togekiss set in the rematch is Para flinch.
After all the great news about rematches, if ILCA patch the exp share toggle and the OST, they'll have done a 180 on this for me. This leak season has been a crazy ride
I don't think that exclusive list is 100% correct, we've seen people playing Brilliant Diamond find Houndoom in the underground. I think it's because it's a Platinum Dex Pokemon so half expected Scyther to not be exclusive anymore too.
Is a rom out in the wild? I saw someone play this on their Samsung phone (on Reddit) for fucks sake. They claim to have finished the game entirely on it. This is crazy.
Those Gym Leader rematch teams are unbelievably good, probably the best we've ever had. The post-game looks like it'll be the best we've had since B2W2.
Having a look at the campaign teams and they're a bit of a mixed bag. You've got some really cool stuff like Bulldoze Cranidos, HA Turtwig and Roserade, Light Clay Light Screen Meditite, Damp Rock Rain Dance Quagsire, Strength Sap Drifblim, Icy Rock Snover and Chople Pickpocket Sneasel and Chople Berry Surf Raichu and egg move elemental fangs Luxray, but then there is some really weirdly lame stuff too like Mismagius losing Shadow Ball for Phantom Force, Lucario not having Bone Rush for Monferno, no Metal Burst on Bastiodon etc.
Having a look at the campaign teams and they're a bit of a mixed bag. You've got some really cool stuff like Bulldoze Cranidos, HA Turtwig and Roserade, Light Clay Light Screen Meditite, Damp Rock Rain Dance Quagsire, Strength Sap Drifblim, Icy Rock Snover and Chople Pickpocket Sneasel and Chople Berry Surf Raichu and egg move elemental fangs Luxray, but then there is some really weirdly lame stuff too like Mismagius losing Shadow Ball for Phantom Force, Lucario not having Bone Rush for Monferno, no Metal Burst on Bastiodon etc.
Yes, but is there even a switch emulator for phones? I thought there was only windows/linux apps.
Yeah could be. I think the item list also contained Ability Patches (which will probably be a Battle Tower item) so we know that Hidden Abilities are obtainable in at least that manner
Replying here since the other thread got shut. This argument is a purely internal explanation which the user does not, and should not, care about. Regardless of this internal considerations, it is pretty much universally accepted that Platinum is a big improvement over the original gen 4 entries, so using the latter ones as a base is absurd. Regardless, it does seem like there is more extra content, so in the end it might make up for it.
Well considering the internal considerations etc. are a large part of how development is done, it's the explanation whether or not the community likes it
With all due respect, Joe - they're not disagreeing here, they're just saying that the user shouldn't rightfully be expected to care.
FWIW, I'm very excited to get my hands-on with the game either way.
Pretty much. I mean, imagine for instance, if the dark souls remastered (or any other remaster) version did not include the DLC, and somebody came up and said that this was done by another team (not that this is true), hence we should have expected for it not to be included. That might be an accurate internal explanation, but it doesn't make it any less baffling to the user.
Damn, the tone shift in this thread is amazing, lol. That post-game looks fantastic. And here I was, about to skip BDSP and just replay Platinum.
Platinum can't be too seperated from DP internally, since ILCA were clearly allowed to pull some elements from it when designing the post-game content. The Gym Leader / Pokemon League rematches use their Platinum teams as a base, the Distortion World does appear in an abridged single pathway form, Giratina's Platinum battle theme (and naturally the Origin Forme) is included, they've added the PC wallpapers from Platinum (and designated them as being from that game); plus Shaymin's Sky Forme, Rotom's additional forms and the associated events/NPC, but they really couldn't have gotten away with excluding those.
I feel like if they wanted to include the full Distortion World and Battle Frontier nothing would be stopping them, but it clearly just wasn't in the cards for the project. Pulling from Platinum's aesthetic improvements over DP probably was off the cards though, unfortunately. Naturally the best answer would be including both, but that was never going to happen.
Yes, it was discussed many pages back; even got its own thread.
It's true and it isn't the first main series Pokemon release to be like this.
I feel like if they wanted to include the full Distortion World and Battle Frontier nothing would be stopping them, but it clearly just wasn't in the cards for the project. Pulling from Platinum's aesthetic improvements over DP probably was off the cards though, unfortunately. Naturally the best answer would be including both, but that was never going to happen.
Yes, it was discussed many pages back; even got its own thread.
It's true and it isn't the first main series Pokemon release to be like this.
Because of these arguments, I think that separating Platinum from Diamond and Pearl is just overly-justifying bad decisions and doing some mental gymnastics to conform to what we got. The only omission from Platinum that I kind of get is the rework of some routes and places to include more snow, which could also have been temporarily added on an hypothetical reworked post-game episode involving Giratina.
Like I said earlier in the thread, these are faithful, 1:1 remakes only when it's convenient. When they change stuff that wasn't in the original games for the better, we're supposed to praise the team for it. But if we point out glaring omissions and the game not matching expectations, we're supposed to understand that we weren't supposed to get that much. It should not be a one-side argument here.