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Oct 27, 2017
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...-reveals-untold-story-behind-90s-film-1078868

In the mid 1990s, while riding a wave of box-office hits that propelled him to superstardom, Wesley Snipes undertook a bold initiative: make a film about the Marvel Comics character Black Panther.

Snipes' uphill battle was plagued with script re-writes, director uncertainty, storytelling clashes and inadequate CG capabilities needed to truly bring the marvelous fictional African nation of Wakanda to life.

It's a fairly long article, so it's hard to isolate specific parts for quotes since the whole thing is worth a read, but one particularly interesting part was when he tried describing the character to John Singleton (director of Boyz N' the Hood)

"I laid on him my vision of the film being closer to what you see now: the whole world of Africa being a hidden, highly technically advanced society, cloaked by a force field, Vibranium," Snipes begins. "John was like, 'Nah! Hah! Hah! See, he's got the spirit of the Black Panther, but he is trying to get his son to join the [civil rights activist] organization. And he and his son have a problem, and they have some strife because he is trying to be politically correct and his son wants to be a knucklehead.' "

Laughing, Snipes continued, "I am loosely paraphrasing our conversation. But ultimately, John wanted to take the character and put him in the civil rights movement. And I'm like, 'Dude! Where's the toys?! They are highly technically advanced, and it will be fantastic to see Africa in this light opposed to how Africa is typically portrayed.' I wanted to see the glory and the beautiful Africa. The jewel Africa."

Snipes, somewhat intimidated by Singleton's interpretation, says he was unsuccessful in fully laying out his vision. But that wasn't a bad thing.

What's interesting is how his lack of success in getting this project going led to another black superhero movie of his being made

But the action star didn't dwell on the missed opportunity. Rather, he took what he learned from the experience and applied it to his next superhero project: Blade.

"It was a natural progression and a readjustment," Snipes says. "They both [Black Panther and Blade] had nobility. They both were fighters. So I thought, hey, we can't do the King of Wakanda and the Vibranium and the hidden kingdom in Africa, let's do a black vampire," he says, laughing.
 
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Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seems like he learned to get a black superhero movie made back then was strip the character down to an elevator pitch. Which was the 90s in general. A black English vampire could have been something interesting.
 

Salty Rice

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pancake City
Dont worry Wesley that your version of Black Panther didnt pan out because you gave us instead with Blade the best Marvel movie to this date.
 

Bandage

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Oct 25, 2017
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In a way, I'm glad it was Blade that got made, because it kind of helped set a tone for future super hero movies and I don't think the world was ready for Black Panther yet. Sadly.
 

HP_Wuvcraft

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Oct 26, 2017
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John Singleton on Black Panther would have been really quite amazing.

But if Blade is Snipes version of nobility, I'm glad he never did Panther.

But it is very much hard to overlook Blade's impact on future comic book films.
 

Ombra

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Jan 22, 2018
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John Singleton on Black Panther would have been really quite amazing.

But if Blade is Snipes version of nobility, I'm glad he never did Panther.

But it is very much hard to overlook Blade's impact on future comic book films.
Personally, I think singletons version sounds stupid as fuck like he's shooting low so he wouldn't have to worry about pesky things like special effects and costume design. glad we got blade instead.
 
OP
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Oct 27, 2017
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John Singleton on Black Panther would have been really quite amazing.

But if Blade is Snipes version of nobility, I'm glad he never did Panther.

But it is very much hard to overlook Blade's impact on future comic book films.

Did you read what he wanted to do with it? The dude's an amazing director, but he didn't really seem to understand what it was about or why Wesley was excited
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did you read what he wanted to do with it? The dude's an amazing director, but he didn't really seem to understand what it was about or why Wesley was excited
Shows the value of getting a director that really understands the property. Like he read "Black Panther" and thought it was the group.
 

THE GUY

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Oct 27, 2017
4,223
Blade is still one of the top movies in the genre for me. There is no superhero yet that was as cool as that nigga. It was hype as fuck back in the day. No superhero since has had that kind of charisma on-screen. Even RDJ's Iron Man ain't got shit on Wesley Snipes as Blade.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH BLADE TRINITY?! WHO SABOTAGED THAT SHIT?!
 

riotous

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Oct 25, 2017
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Love Wesley Snipes, gonna make my wife watch a bunch of his films. He was my favorite actor when i was a teen in the 90s. Love all the interviews coming out, he seems primed to be in the spotlight again.
 

Madao

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Oct 26, 2017
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i watched the Blade trilogy this past week and they were fun. the first 2 were pretty entertaining and the last one was decent even with the drop in quality.

i do miss seeing Wesley Snipes starring in movies.
 

BlueTsunami

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Oct 29, 2017
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The original Blade is a classic. Dude has made his contribution and I appreciate that. 90s and the 2ks were a dark time though in this regard though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm more interested in why Hollywood isn't giving this man work today. All I see on his IMDB is a bunch of shit that looks like straight-to-DVD projects.

This is still Wesley fuckin Snipes, right? Does Hollywood think people won't show up to a good movie staring Wesley Snipes?
 

shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade is still one of the top movies in the genre for me. There is no superhero yet that was as cool as that nigga. It was hype as fuck back in the day. No superhero since has had that kind of charisma on-screen. Even RDJ's Iron Man ain't got shit on Wesley Snipes as Blade.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH BLADE TRINITY?! WHO SABOTAGED THAT SHIT?!

Snipes got way too full of himself and Goyer to do with anything outside the writing room is trash.
 

Igniz12

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Oct 25, 2017
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Laughing, Snipes continued, "I am loosely paraphrasing our conversation. But ultimately, John wanted to take the character and put him in the civil rights movement. And I'm like, 'Dude! Where's the toys?! They are highly technically advanced, and it will be fantastic to see Africa in this light opposed to how Africa is typically portrayed.' I wanted to see the glory and the beautiful Africa. The jewel Africa."

Reminds me of that Black Panther thread where someone came in and said why they weren't showing Africa in the same way. Even back then....
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm more interested in why Hollywood isn't giving this man work today. All I see on his IMDB is a bunch of shit that looks like straight-to-DVD projects.

This is still Wesley fuckin Snipes, right? Does Hollywood think people won't show up to a good movie staring Wesley Snipes?

If there's any justice in this world, he'll be back as Blade in the MCU one day and we'll pretend Blade Trinity never happened.
 

astro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade is still an amazing comic book film, and Blade 2 is one of the best Aliens rip-offs ever.
 

Rackham

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade 1 and 2 are great movies. My favorite vampire movies followed by Interview w/a Vampire.

Blade Trinity is trash and not because of Snipes. He's the best part of the movie. The writing is garbage and Jessica Biel and Ryan Reynolds ruin the movie.
 

Disco

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Oct 25, 2017
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Still love blade, the sequel was a step down imo but quite fun too

Not a big loss really since blade was so dope. BP came out at the right time. I don't think it would have had the impact it has now if it released in the 90s
 

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Ploid 6.0

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What a terrible response


When jim carrey did this, it was considered artistic.
Jared's Joker, rats, dead hogs, and boxes oh my!

Method actors, also Shia Labeouf during Fury annoyed his co-stars with his methods too.

You know, if I headlined and made a huge success about an obscure comic book character I'd be pretty pissed getting sidelined in my own movie.

Not sure I'd go that far but him being so difficult makes sense and is downright hilarious.
Wow didn't know about that. That sucks, may have made too many enemies doing that though. I would have played ball and hope another project I get blows up.
 

El Goom

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Oct 27, 2017
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Am I the only one who'd want to see Wesley in BP2? Just to see what the hell they would do with him
 

Ploid 6.0

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Oct 25, 2017
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Am I the only one who'd want to see Wesley in BP2? Just to see what the hell they would do with him
I would like it, but who's hiring him these days? Maybe the director would give him a favor, or would like to see him in it personally. There's so many other people out there that would like a shot though. Winston Duke for example, awesome guy, awesome M'Baku!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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To be fair, if the MCU didn't exist, pitching BP would be like pitching Aquaman to someone who's never read a comic book. You'd hear the pitch and go: "why?" to the whole thing. Or: "a comic book movie? That would never work". Remember that there were basically no comicbook movies before Burton's Batman started the modern blockbuster in 1989, and even then nobody thought they would seriously be any good.
Darkman, despite being an alright movie, was not that promising a start (did get Raimi Spider-Man in 2002 though), and Spawn... yeah (a cult movie in its truest form. Clown is great though).

So ironically Blade might as well be the first 'legit' comicbook movie in 1998 after Batman (89) and Batman Returns (92), in terms of both quality and box office.

Which is still no small achievement considering there wasn't a big push for it at the time.

And 90s Hollywood is all kinds of weird (of the wrong kind) in hindsight. A hair dresser failing upwards as a producer for DC Comics? Booyah baby, it's the 90s! *shudder*
 

IDreamOfHime

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sucks they didn't have Snipes at least make a cameo in the new movie. Panther was his passion for such a block of the 90s.
 

Mr. Pointy

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Oct 28, 2017
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I hope we get Snipes' Blade in the MCU, even if it's a Netflix/Hulu TV series. I don't think it'll happen but I want it.

Blade did lay the foundation for Raimi's Spiderman, X-Men, Nolan's Batman, etc. and eventually the MCU to happen.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Am I the only one who'd want to see Wesley in BP2? Just to see what the hell they would do with him

All of these old actors who are stuck playing parents or the wise experienced character would love to be in a marvel movie. How many older black actors are there? Idris Elba is taken already and he's 10 years younger than Snipes.
 

RoninRay

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Oct 28, 2017
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I just want an old man blade movie set in the future that's over ran by vampires. Also please fit in a Wesley Snipes vs. Michael Jai White fight.
 

Ploid 6.0

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was going to say he should show up in a Deadpool movie, and have DP go off about how bad of an idea Jessica and Ryan was for Blade 3. That would surely kill any chance of a serious shot at another Blade movie though.
 

tino

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade is still a better film. Black Panther gets the black struggle part right and all, but the story telling is lacking. There is no stake for the protagonist and his harem the whole time.
 

Cordy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Glad it didn't work out because Blade just works for Wesley and that fits him better I'd say. He's got it on lock.