What are the chances of a Crusader of Centy / Soleil remake?

signal · Feb 17, 2019

2D or 3D, linear or open world, whatever. I demand a remake of this amazing game. I don't even know who owns the IP at this point (maybe Sega?) but it is time. Below are some reasons to remake it.

Exploit the Undertale fanbase by seducing them with talking flowers:

Opportunity for remade classic ost excerpts:

Modernize the animal helper roster through microtransaction helpers. Gacha system helpers if you want to double the awful modernisms. Just look at the below screenshot - Kitty is begging to be paywalled.

Exploit the Dark Souls lore community by seducing them with this unexplained, deep Tapir quote:

Speaking of Dark Souls, isn't this game kind of a Metroidvania? You do backtrack and unlock new areas with abilities after all

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Anyone contemplating replying with "0":

neufel · Feb 17, 2019

I'd say pretty low as the game has never been high on the SEGA re-release priority list (that's the nicest way to put it).

I still think it's a great game, but at this point I almost wonder if there's a rights problem somewhere.

EDIT: From what I remember, Nextech made the game for SEGA, but then a few years later SEGA bought Nextech. If that's the case I just don't understand why it has never been on the genesis re-releases.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

neufel said:
I'd say pretty low as the game has never been high on the SEGA re-release priority list (that's the nicest way to put it).

Yeah just dreaming in thread form (._. )

neufel said:
EDIT: From what I remember, Nextech made the game for SEGA, but then a few years later SEGA bought Nextech. If that's the case I just don't understand why it has never been on the genesis re-releases.

If it is Sega I wonder why they wouldn't have thrown it on Steam or something like Landstalker.

neufel · Feb 17, 2019

signal said:
Yeah just dreaming in thread form (._. )

If it is Sega I wonder why they wouldn't have thrown it on Steam or something like Landstalker.

Exactly.
People usually say "it's too derivative of Zelda, that's why they don't talk about it".
That doesn't make sense to me, as other derivative games such as fatal labyrinth have received re-releases.

Either they think it sucks (and we def need to open their eyes on this beauty) or something's wrong with the rights.
With SEGA, both can be true.

Karlinel · Feb 17, 2019

SEGA tends to forget its bright past, and looks focused in just publishing other people's work. Oh, and Sonic, as a tragic reminder of their corporate identity I guess.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

neufel said:
Exactly.
People usually say "it's too derivative of Zelda, that's why they don't talk about it".
That doesn't make sense to me, as other derivative games such as fatal labyrinth have received re-releases.
Either they think it sucks (and we def need to open their eyes on this beauty) or something's wrong with the rights.
With SEGA, both can be true.

We must find the truth.

Karlinel said:
SEGA tends to forget its bright past, and looks focused in just publishing other people's work. Oh, and Sonic, as a tragic reminder of their corporate identity I guess.

They can take one of the animals as a mascot to usher in a new age of Sega. Possibly Tapir.

Tailzo · Feb 17, 2019

This was such a nice game

Morrigan · Feb 17, 2019

I want to say zero, but then, Monster Boy happened. So, who knows?

signal said:
Modernize the animal helper roster through microtransaction helpers. Gacha system helpers if you want to double the awful modernisms. Just look at the below screenshot - Kitty is begging to be paywalled.

Oh, this is a troll thread? Nevermind :(

you monster :(

raketenrolf · Feb 17, 2019

Even a simple port would make me happy.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
Oh, this is a troll thread? Nevermind :(

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No! But a big publisher CEO may be browsing for ideas, and so I have to tempt them.

raketenrolf said:
Even a simple port would make me happy.

Only if highly advertised and well received thus leading to remake!

Deleted member 3465 · Feb 17, 2019

Really loved the feel of this game and the animal helpers were a cool feature too! Would love this

Morrigan · Feb 17, 2019

signal said:
No! But a big publisher CEO may be browsing for ideas, and so I have to tempt them.

Only if highly advertised and well received thus leading to remake!

A gacha remake would not be a good thing though! DELETE THIS THREAD

Oh wait I'm the mod I should be DELETING THIS THREAD~

mopinks · Feb 17, 2019

even lower than the chances of a Beyond Oasis remake

signal · Feb 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
A gacha remake would not be a good thing though! DELETE THIS THREAD

True I guess there aren't enough animals to warrant it. Save it for the sequel. Thread saved!

Panzermoon said:
Really loved the feel of this game and the animal helpers were a cool feature too! Would love this

Yeah it was so fun.

Not sure why but the Castle Freesia -> Root Temple section is one of my favourite times spent playing games. Good music too.

neufel · Feb 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
A gacha remake would not be a good thing though! DELETE THIS THREAD

Oh wait I'm the mod I should be DELETING THIS THREAD~

Your resistance only makes the gacha lords happier

But yeah, the derivative BS don't hold up when you see games like Oceanhorn.
I think it's just seen as a below standard game for SEGA, half-forgotten, no point in bringing that up.
That would sadly make a remake even harder to pull-off as the Monster Boy one came from higher brand name recognition (I think)

We should send flowers and chocolate to the M2 team.

Joltik · Feb 17, 2019

It's such a mystery of why Sega never added this game to their compilation titles. The only answer I could think of is they simply forgot about this game.

Laxoon · Feb 17, 2019

None unless one of us starts working on it OP. :(

It's what I want to do myself but for Landstalker. Except not so much a remake, more like my own version of a spiritual successor or whatever to it.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

neufel said:
I think it's just seen as a below standard game for SEGA, half-forgotten, no point in bringing that up.

Joltik said:
It's such a mystery of why Sega never added this game to their compilation titles. The only answer I could think of is they simply forgot about this game.

Any idea what the reception for the game was like originally? I guess I just always grouped it together with Landstalker but even years ago I guess there would be good reasons why Landstalker got a bunch of spinoff sequels and this just died.

Laxoon said:
None unless one of us starts working on it OP. :(
It's what I want to do myself but for Landstalker. Except not so much a remake, more like my own version of a spiritual successor or whatever to it.

That PSP remake will be out one day ;_;

daninthemix · Feb 17, 2019

Are you serious OP? How can anyone think the answer is anything other than "zero"? The game was obscure even on release. You can count the number of people who would buy this based on its existence in the 90s in the dozens, at most.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

daninthemix said:
Are you serious OP? How can anyone think the answer is anything other than "zero"? The game was obscure even on release. You can count the number of people who would buy this based on its existence in the 90s in the dozens, at most.

Listen Nigel just because Landstalker is on Steam and Dark Savior / Alundra / Lady Stalker exist does not mean you have to insult your fellow Genesis RPG family.

daninthemix · Feb 17, 2019

signal said:
Listen Nigel just because Landstalker is on Steam and Dark Savior / Alundra / Lady Stalker exist does not mean you have to insult your fellow Genesis RPG family.

Hey, I genuinely like the game. The animal abilities stuff is inventive and unique. I'm just saying, I remember when this came out and it was obscure. There is literally zero chance of a remaster. In terms of chucking the ROM up onto modern game stores, sure, why not (they didn't already?)

signal · Feb 17, 2019

daninthemix said:
I'm just saying, I remember when this came out and it was obscure.

Oh, was it. I must have been around 9 when playing it so to me it was just another game on the shelf of the rental store that I liked, same as Landstalker lol. Was never sure how the popularity of each compared.

El Crono · Feb 17, 2019

I was sold on the idea until you mentioned microtransactions.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

El Crono said:
I was sold on the idea until you mentioned microtransactions.

We have to lure in the publishers...

Morrigan · Feb 17, 2019

signal said:
We have to lure in the publishers...

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DrLight66 · Feb 17, 2019

"Crusader of Centy" and "Blades of Vengeance" are the two best Genesis games that seem to have been completely forgotten about.

Deleted member 7130 · Feb 17, 2019

I've seen more people mention Moster Boy than Crusader before the MB remake. I think it's zero right now. There'd have to be an effort to make it cool to like and mention it. Then maybe Sega might consider revisiting it in 20 years

super moustique · Feb 17, 2019

Zero... But I feel like there's still a possibility of this happening for some reason ! :D

Nikus · Feb 17, 2019

I love this game, I beat it many times... I'll play it again next month as soon as I receive my Genesis controller from 8bitdo!

signal · Feb 17, 2019

super moustique said:
Zero... But I feel like there's still a possibility of this happening for some reason ! :D

That's the kind of contradicting optimism I want to see more of.

xEik · Feb 17, 2019

I still have my Megadrive version. Bad PAL pixelated cover and all. I cannot believe how utterly bad the PAL cover is. Thankfully a review I read sold me on the game. Seeing it on a shelf would have never compelled me to get it.
I must replay this someday. I wonder how well the batteries in these games hold up.
And now I'm imagining radial menus on the joysticks that let you change your chosen companion combinations on the fly. :(

signal · Feb 17, 2019

xEik said:
I still have my Megadrive version. Bad PAL pixelated cover and all. I cannot believe how utterly bad the PAL cover is. Thankfully a review I read sold me on the game. Seeing it on a shelf would have never compelled me to get it.
I must replay this someday. I wonder how well the batteries in these games hold up.
And now I'm imagining radial menus on the joysticks that let you change your chosen companion combinations on the fly. :(

Running around a semi-open 3D world with your companions beside you. Damn......

werezompire · Feb 17, 2019

A rerelease as part of a Genesis Collection is probably the only thing you can hope for at this point.

signal · Feb 17, 2019

werezompire said:
A rerelease as part of a Genesis Collection is probably the only thing you can hope for at this point.

Will that lead to an explosion in popularity followed by demand for a remake?

Sega please.

duckroll · Feb 17, 2019

Probably really low given how Sega isn't even interested in remaking better known stuff that would benefit from a modern release - like Shining Force 3, Phantasy Star IV, Landstalker, Beyond Oasis.

rawhide · Feb 17, 2019

Like, negative eight billion percent.

Syril · Feb 17, 2019

I don't know why Sega stopped releasing Genesis ROMs on Steam, especially since they keep putting that Genesis collection on everything, you'd think they'd still be interested.

duckroll · Feb 17, 2019

Syril said:
I don't know why Sega stopped releasing Genesis ROMs on Steam, especially since they keep putting that Genesis collection on everything, you'd think they'd still be interested.

One reason might be them seeing the success of the NES Classic and since they're trying something like that this year with the Mega Drive, they might not want to continue flooding Steam with cheap roms at the moment.

rawhide · Feb 17, 2019

Joltik said:
It's such a mystery of why Sega never added this game to their compilation titles. The only answer I could think of is they simply forgot about this game.

Atlus retained the NA publishing rights and getting it cleared for release even now that they're sister companies isn't as straightforward as one might hope.

There's also the fact that the people in charge of Japanese initiatives like Sega Ages, Virtual Console, etc are philosophically pre-disposed to sticking to Sega-ass Sega games.

flashman92 · Feb 21, 2019

This is right next to games like Crackdown and Baku Baku on the list of games Sega cares about.

neufel · Feb 21, 2019

flashman92 said:
This is right next to games like Crackdown and Baku Baku on the list of games Sega cares about.

Thank you for making the bridge between the Skies of Arcadia and Crusader of Centy threads.

However, I do not thank you for reminding me that the list of dormant IPs is pretty long.

Alienhated · Feb 21, 2019

I guess with Sega's recent trend to outsource remakes and new entries of some of their old ips, it's would not be that impossible anymore.

Xero grimlock · Feb 22, 2019

still own my genesis copy, cant find the box though. ive only played through it once though so i need to fix that.

Nabbit · Feb 22, 2019

signal you may already know this, but I think I know what the tapir is talking about, more or less. I recently watched a jdrama called dele where a villainous character called himself the dream-eating tapir on Twitter, and went around manipulating bullied young people into committing suicide. One of the characters (or maybe it was the fansubber in a note) mentioned that the tapir is mythologically known in Japan for eating people's nightmares (in a creepy, non-helpful way). So maybe the tapir here is referring to people's dreams in terms of their delectable quality.

Then again, sadly I haven't played Crusader of Centy yet, so I could be way off.

Also, a couple months ago Mama Robotnik posted a pretty amazing thread about Sega Zelda-likes y'all might be interested in if you haven't already seen it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-eleven-sega-“zeldas”-gifs.83360/

signal · Feb 22, 2019

Nabbit said:
signal you may already know this, but I think I know what the tapir is talking about, more or less. I recently watched a jdrama called dele where a villainous character called himself the dream-eating tapir on Twitter, and went around manipulating bullied young people into committing suicide. One of the characters (or maybe it was the fansubber in a note) mentioned that the tapir is mythologically known in Japan for eating people's nightmares (in a creepy, non-helpful way). So maybe the tapir here is referring to people's dreams in terms of their delectable quality.

Then again, sadly I haven't played Crusader of Centy yet, so I could be way off.

Also, a couple months ago Mama Robotnik posted a pretty amazing thread about Sega Zelda-likes y'all might be interested in if you haven't already seen it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-eleven-sega-“zeldas”-gifs.83360/

lol I wonder if that's it. Honestly I have no idea, I was just making fun of it because it is kind of a "deep" quote (and that's the only thing he says) compared to most of the other non-recruitable animals in the game. Perhaps you just made it even deeper 🤔

Deleted member 21709 · Feb 22, 2019

I don't want it remade, but I'd like a Ages release with additional features and polish.

Pixel Grotto · Feb 22, 2019

I think there's honestly more of a chance of Landstalker coming back than Crusader of Centy.

And even Landstalker is a pipe dream

Tiny Chihuahueño · Feb 23, 2019

I would hope so.

Soleil, one of my favorite games on the Mega Drive. Killer soundtrack, pretty graphics, and the first time a game made me think about what I was doing by killing monsters.
Just the other day someone mentioned it on twitter and I remembered I made some drawings back in the day when I was still a kid.

Oreiller · Feb 23, 2019

I first played it when I bought an used Megadrive 8 years ago and I was really surprised by how good it is. One of my favorite 16bit ARPG for sure. But yeah, it's never ever happening.

signal · Feb 23, 2019

Tiny Chihuahueño said:
I would hope so.

Soleil, one of my favorite games on the Mega Drive. Killer soundtrack, pretty graphics, and the first time a game made me think about what I was doing by killing monsters.
Just the other day someone mentioned it on twitter and I remembered I made some drawings back in the day when I was still a kid.

cute. Those fire snake enemies from Burn Daisy!

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