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What can Nintendo do to widen the appeal of the Metroid franchise?
- Thread starter Phendrift
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well if Nintendo takes steps to widen the appeal, you wont ever be coming back
They should look towards Prey for inspiration for Metroid Prime.
They should create a 3D Metroid that's more in spirit with the 2D games e.g. 3rd person, fast-paced action with nimble platforming. Super Cloudbuilt is exactly the game to look towards to pull off that kind of platforming.
They should create a 3D Metroid that's more in spirit with the 2D games e.g. 3rd person, fast-paced action with nimble platforming. Super Cloudbuilt is exactly the game to look towards to pull off that kind of platforming.
100 metroids crawl onto an island?
Some type of persistent game mode like Monster Hunter investigations would be neat, but with space bounties.
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This is Other M.
i honestly hope they expand upon this style some day
- Meaningful story (with voice acting) that doesn't rely solely on you scanning a bunch of things to figure it out.
- Bounties to collect, space stations where you can buy/sell stuff/talk to people and get upgrades
- Training wheels/hint system for the casual-core gamers who want to play without getting lost
- Mix of action, exploration, and survival horror.
- New environments that we haven't seen in a Metroid game before (i.e. ruined Sci-Fi city)
- Don't be afraid to change the basic weapons used by Samus so that the multiplayer works.
- Bounties to collect, space stations where you can buy/sell stuff/talk to people and get upgrades
- Training wheels/hint system for the casual-core gamers who want to play without getting lost
- Mix of action, exploration, and survival horror.
- New environments that we haven't seen in a Metroid game before (i.e. ruined Sci-Fi city)
- Don't be afraid to change the basic weapons used by Samus so that the multiplayer works.
Actually the appeal widening would bring me back lol, I played on my Wii and hated motion controls for them.
Overwatch metroid edition.
You could make enough different characters with other bounty hunters space pirates metroid aliens federation people all the bosses and so on.
Make a neat 10 to 15 hour campaign and then have the online be an overwatch clone set in the metroid universe.
You could make enough different characters with other bounty hunters space pirates metroid aliens federation people all the bosses and so on.
Make a neat 10 to 15 hour campaign and then have the online be an overwatch clone set in the metroid universe.
Nintendo please listen to this person. Don't try for mass appeal by making a crap game.
Chest-high walls and a cover system, a color palette that consists almost exclusively of shades of brown and grey, an epic plot that takes up more than 90% of the play time, a multiplayer mode where you're a space pirate trapped on an island with 99 other space pirates and you have to fight to be the last one standing, and lootboxes. That cost several times as much as the base game in order to unlock all of the visor colors for Samus, who is Gamestop pre-order only for the first six months.
I am 100% serious.
I am 100% serious.
I am not 100% serious.
They can raise long-term investment with a well-designed arena multiplayer. Switch could use a solid FPS multiplayer franchise similar to Halo, and Metroid Prime is ripe for ideas.
This makes little sense for this series considering nearly every single one is a good/great game. At least two are considered by quite a few gamers as the greatest game of all time.
Super and Prime are quite respected as such.
So you stopped at Super Metroid?
If I had to put it my 2 cents and if we want to talk about good starting points for people, Prime 3 is actually a good starting point because of how it's structured. If they like that then send them to Prime 1/2.
As for the topic itself, just make something structurally sound. I don't nitpick to hell and back like I usually see people saying how one thing ruins everything. Make something good/cohesive and I'm all good.
Eh idk. I think Lara Croft could be the most popular female character. I think if you ask the average person who Samus is they'd have no idea.
I don't think there needs to be any drastic changes. Just market the shit out of it like MS does with Halo.
honest i am surprised it never had large appeal especially from the hardcore crowd.
Badass bounty hunter
Sci Fi
Critically rated.
Badass bounty hunter
Sci Fi
Critically rated.
Pretty much this and maybe adjust the controls to be more familiar to shooter players.
Had there been any credible talk of the trilogy coming to Switch? I would but that shit so fast.
This is more like, why bother making a Metroid game? These ideas change so much of what Metroid is while trying to chase the mainstream that it would likely not catch either. And you don't really need to cater or make appeals to speedrunners, and you'll even find that there are some in that community that don't want to be catered to in ways many suggest. And Metroid games get speed ran a lot already anyway, because they are good games and the people playing them love them.
Removing some of the sense of isolation is not something I would personally want either. Accurate to call it controversial, because no one wants some person or computer talking while in the dead silence of space and a dangerous planet. One of the things that makes Metroid is the isolation, the fearful feeling of being alone on an uninhabitable planet surrounded by deadly creatures. Metroid has always evoked a kind of deadly curiosity and horroresque feeling to its atmosphere. They instead could work on that more. Fusion was intense with fear for me and not knowing when SA-X would appear as you were now the hunted, rather than the hunter. Much of Metroid was inspired by Alien and they can still take more from that.
What Nintendo should really do is embrace Metroid's niche status and work to grow it from there. Even if it means scaling back in some areas, just so long as Metroid can stick around. I understand the need for growth and the need to change some things up, but change too much and too fast and it just winds up hurting all sides. I think a more consistent release schedule of Metroid could do wonders and that is something where Metroid has had its most issues. Metroid will skip generations and we'll get a new entry later, or a short burst of new entries, then hiatus for some time again. That should be the first big change they should work to fix.
However, I am not opposed to changes to Metroid, and they could try out those changes and ideas in spinoffs and side games. I just can only hope that the community will actually accept those spinoff games. Because if they can't and continually reject spinoffs and side games, then they will also be holding Metroid back from growing. Because spinoffs and side games can do a good deal in expanding a community and expanding mindshare about a series. Not to mention side games can also act as side stories and bring even more depth to Metroid's universe.
Personally, I'm happy for Nintendo to try to widen the scope, but I'd be just as happy for Metroid to stick to its core strengths. Eat the cost, Nintendo. You have a number of gazillion-selling games. It's important to keep a wide repertoire of game styles in the library. Obviously we can't expect a game every year, but once every few years would be nice. Keep both Metroid 2D and 3D games going.
P.S. Samus should've been in MARIO Kart 8. Especially after Link got in. She was robbed.
P.S. Samus should've been in MARIO Kart 8. Especially after Link got in. She was robbed.
Lets look at these steps 1 by 1.
1. Hire good writers.
This shouldn't be controversial. Metroid has had Voice Acting since Prime 2, and it goes full VA in Prime 3 and Other M. Point 1 basically says " Don't screw up the things that are already in the game"
2. Make it a T rated shooter
Metroid Prime is a T rated shooter. This is an established part of the series identity. This shouldn't be controversial
3. Learn from others
Learning is an important part of innovating. this shouldn't be controversial.
4. Removing some of the sense of Isolation
This is somewhat controversial, but it really shouldn't be. The Last Guardian manages to convey a sense of isolation despite having 2 characters working cooperatively. So does MGSV. In Metroid games the Isolation and unnerving nature literally makes people turn off the game. giving players a minimalist AI companion or listening to Samus' internal voice doesn't remove the Isolation/survival horror elements IE TR2013 or PoPWW. It does however differentiate Samus as a character separate from the player, and would give the game a better solution to issue hints for lost players.
5. Make it easier
having a layered maze with an accessible main branch and more difficult side branches that allow sequence skipping or other faster routes will only be controversial to elitist players who want a game made for them. However if there isn't enough of these players to justify a Metroid game getting made, then they are going to have to get over it in order to continue to see games in the series get made.
6. This was just me throwing some crazy idea's at the wall. That was the point. to suggest Nintendo examine what the core elements of the series actually are and to try something fresh. Obviously the Survival Horror elements are beloved and need to be kept.
That's not a metroid prime game though.
Metroid prime is the subseries they use when it's a behind the visor game, so I can tell you with 100% certainty that is not what prime 4 will be.
Die hard Zelda fans have been calling for open world for years. The first game was open world. Zelda is an adventure game set in a fantasy land. Open world is perfect for zelda. Metroid got a multiplayer game. It's called federation force. It was a horrible flop. That's not what Metroid needs imo. Open world wouldn't feel good either.
Metroid is supposed to be dark and cramped and moody and solitary. Unlike zelda, or monster Hunter, these are to me what defines Metroid. It's not a buddy game. It's not a lighthearted adventure with a cast if characters. No, Samus is always alone with a single difficult mission. I would be ok with more story and more mysteries to unlock than previous MP's. Do more physics. Do a really strong AI Hunter enemy that's always after you. Do Zero G. Or perhaps do a bounty Hunter system and let Samus hunt random bounties. These things fit the isolated bounty Hunter theme. I think there are many things they could do to advance the series without trying to turn it into something it's not.
- Make the single player mode completely linear and 3 hours long, tops
- More shooting
- Less scanning
- Loot boxes in online multiplayer
- Loadouts in multiplayer
- Ability to "prestige" in multiplayer
- Make the main character a bald male space marine with zero personality instead of a strong woman
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- More shooting
- Less scanning
- Loot boxes in online multiplayer
- Loadouts in multiplayer
- Ability to "prestige" in multiplayer
- Make the main character a bald male space marine with zero personality instead of a strong woman
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Just make a really good hardcore game. I think the audience is there, especially on Switch, for hardcore games. I would make Prime 4 a back to basics type game. As Nintendo has already said they will, focus on isolation and mood and hopefully really tight controls.
How about before Metroid Prime 4, Nintendo releases two Metroid collections on the Switch.
The first could be a collection of the 2D Metroid games, then the second collection a Prime trilogy.
The first could be a collection of the 2D Metroid games, then the second collection a Prime trilogy.
They are absolutely incredible. Among the greatest of all time, but it has been years since the last one. My post wasn't a referendum on the previous games. It was just stating the obvious. If you build a great game the people will come.
Give me a reason to care. The series has been around for over thirty years; what does this new one do that's special (other than be a Nintendo game with "Metroid" in the title)?
Give me a world I've never seen, or a story I've never heard, or a mechanic I've never played. Make it fresh and exciting to people who aren't already fans.
Give me a world I've never seen, or a story I've never heard, or a mechanic I've never played. Make it fresh and exciting to people who aren't already fans.
Outside of leveraging the IP in other media there is not that much they can do without changing the series into something else. Metroid is a hard scifi series with challenging combat and intricate level layouts. As a game there is always going to be a limited audience.
They tried to simplify the game, sex-up Samus and focus on cutscenes with Other M and they created an abomination that sold like putrid dog shit and put the series into an immediate stasis. Some series are just not meant to be blockbusters.
They tried to simplify the game, sex-up Samus and focus on cutscenes with Other M and they created an abomination that sold like putrid dog shit and put the series into an immediate stasis. Some series are just not meant to be blockbusters.
Make a great game. A GOTY contender. To be fair ever since the original Metroid Prime we're yet to see a masterpiece entry. Samus Returns was decent at best, imo it's not even that.
Social media and reaction from people sells the game for you. If they put out another BOTW/SMO level game they wouldn't need to worry about the sales. With a solid online multiplayer it can easily sell 5 million.
Social media and reaction from people sells the game for you. If they put out another BOTW/SMO level game they wouldn't need to worry about the sales. With a solid online multiplayer it can easily sell 5 million.