Max Payne 1? Not so sure about that. The second game feels a lot more solid.
MP2 could use a simple graphical update. MP1 probably needs a remake.
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What games do you think need a complete visual-only overhaul? (ex. Colossus PS4, Halo, MWR, etc.)
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Max Payne 1? Not so sure about that. The second game feels a lot more solid.
MP2 could use a simple graphical update. MP1 probably needs a remake.
I'd love a MGS3 remake but this thread is about visual upgrades and MGS3 remake needs more than that. The gameplay is atrocious.
Craig is the best Bond!
This is kind of funny, because Shadow of the Colossus, for all its merits and wonderful content, has (IMO) abysmally frustrating play control which really kills the experience for me. I was hoping SOTC PS4 was going to take a stab at reinventing the control scheme. Doesn't look like it, I guess....?
Chrono Trigger with the graphics of the new dragon quest
Knights of the Old Republic with modern day graphics
Masterlist Essentials:
Final Fantasy 1
Snatcher
System Shock 2
Syphon Filter
Advance Wars
Planescape: Torment
Super Metroid
The Warriors
Earthworm Jim
The Suffering: Ties That Bind
Silent Hill 2
Wario World
Fable
Earthbound
Golden Sun
The Secret of Monkey Island
Perfect Dark
MGS1 (Fox Engine)
Boulder Dash
Ultimate Spider-Man
Suikoden
Fire Emblem 7
Conkes Bad Fur Day
Rayman 2
Final Fantasy 1
Snatcher
System Shock 2
Syphon Filter
Advance Wars
Planescape: Torment
Super Metroid
The Warriors
Earthworm Jim
The Suffering: Ties That Bind
Silent Hill 2
Wario World
Fable
Earthbound
Golden Sun
The Secret of Monkey Island
Perfect Dark
MGS1 (Fox Engine)
Boulder Dash
Ultimate Spider-Man
Suikoden
Fire Emblem 7
Conkes Bad Fur Day
Rayman 2
Good call. Even at release, the environments in that game were direly out-of-date.
Street fighter 3. Preferably the new age or 2nd impact bc they had much better stages than 3rd strike
Ace Combat PS2 trilogy. You've got those fancy new plane models and the revamped lighting engine in 7. You're already part of the way there, Team ACES.
If you're talking about the first AoE, it definitely needs mechanics overhauls as well.
Xenoblade Chronicles, please. I'll settle for an HD version with improved character models, though.
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory.
Game still looks very good but I would love a fresh coat of paint. Besides I sorely miss Spies vs Mercs as well.
Majora's Mask.
3DS version looks good, but it's still 3DS hardware. Plus seeing what's possible in emulation is pretty amazing.
Game still looks very good but I would love a fresh coat of paint. Besides I sorely miss Spies vs Mercs as well.
Majora's Mask.
3DS version looks good, but it's still 3DS hardware. Plus seeing what's possible in emulation is pretty amazing.
Can't say I ever actually played the remake lmao. But as long as it was the same core game they could have Elmo be Bond for all I care.
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Personally, I like what they did with the PSP version of FF1, 2, and 4. Those ports look extremely faithful to the art style the NES and SNES games were trying to achieve. I don't know why nobody else seems to like the look of those games. To me they look like what old school RPGs would be if they'd had more pixels available to them.
There will be an optional new control scheme. It looks like the physics and whatnot will be identical to the PS2 game, but I think Sony confirmed what sounds like an optional new configuration of the buttons.
In these kinds of remakes I don't consider a new control scheme to be a significant gameplay change unless it requires the game to actually be rebalanced. A lot of the PC games I mentioned would make for good complete visual overhauls would almost certainly need more modern control setups, and could probably get them without actually changing any of the game.
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Super Mario Galaxy
It's not a super old game, but it is a standard definition game that I always felt could have greatly benefited from being in high definition. Imagine those HD sky boxes.
It's not a super old game, but it is a standard definition game that I always felt could have greatly benefited from being in high definition. Imagine those HD sky boxes.
It wasn't even close to being Goldeneye. It was basically a different game that had similar locations. Even the Dam was different.
What good is low res art? Even for a fairly modern game it's amazing what kind of detail is lost from weak hardware.
I don't know where OP is getting their info but the System Shock remake is a full remake, not just a graphical one. Even if it were feasible to build over the old code, you wouldn't want to, because like Ultima Underworld, that game would need a complete overhaul of its controls and mechanics in order to be considered playable today.
What good is low res art? Even for a fairly modern game it's amazing what kind of detail is lost from weak hardware.
We're not talking about straight forward remasters impact, we're talking about games that need a re-asseting. THat's what the thread is about.
Most games in the 6th gen and beyond do not need reasseting to be displayed at higher resolutions unless they are particularly egregious. Something like Dark Souls just barely escapes, and Demon's souls is right in the middle, so it qualifies
Oh god, Chrono Trigger with PS4 DQXI graphics would be absolutely mind blowing. I would probably be pleased to the point of tears.
Also, many have mentioned another personal fav of mine, FFVI.
So, my nomination will be Breath of Fire 1 & 2!
Every game in his list is a reasseted remaster, he even missed a few with Gears of War Ultimate edition and Crash. Those are a clear step beyond just upping the resolution of the base game and maybe straightening out some textures here and there, refining some effects. Its a clear graphical overhaul, and in Crash's case, redoing the cutscenes as well and adding Cocoa to the mix.
The scale your talking about, going from 2D to 3D is basically FF7R level of investment, i don't think that qualifies as a "visual only upgrade" the OP is talking about. That's a full on remake territory
Kotor, Kotor II.
Both would work great for an asset bump, rather than a remaster/remake. But I'd still love an actual remaster/remake instead. (I'll take either, or a new game).
Both would work great for an asset bump, rather than a remaster/remake. But I'd still love an actual remaster/remake instead. (I'll take either, or a new game).
Honestly if Metroid Prime 1-3 and Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 were remade in HD with a similar scope and quality of that PS4 Shadow of the Colossus remake, I'd lose my mind.
The games I mentioned don't even look bad due to their art style, but a complete overhaul would be amazing to see.
The games I mentioned don't even look bad due to their art style, but a complete overhaul would be amazing to see.
I liked it tbh. Did not mind any of the changes at all in Twin Snakes.
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i think Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask deserve a full true HD remake like Shadow of the Colossus does. Just base em on the 3DS versions and fix the MM3D swimming.
Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword also deserve it but those need some pacing/gameplay changes/improvements. Altho Twilight Princess can be done without much change but please make the intro skipable atleast.
Metroid Prime Trilogy true HD would be the dream tho. I really need that no changes needed at all just a visual makeover like SotC.
Edit: and the Mario galaxy games + MGS 2 and 3. Kingdom Hearts 2 HD and Wind Waker HD look fine enough already.
I think a lot of PS1/N64 generation titles - no matter how great - would frankly benefit from some mechanical updates, and *definitely* most SNES-era stuff (as much as I love it!). Even most modern-day stuff. Mechanically perfect games come along only a couple of times a generation.
Vagrant Story, for example, could really use some simple equipment system tutorial stuff and a quick weapon switch. Final Fantasy VI could use some serious rebalancing (and if it got an overhaul, I'd want much more and better character-specific dialogue in the entire second half of the game, where most of the lines being uttered are written for 'generic character.') Devil May Cry 3 could really use style switching.
I'll say: Super Metroid, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 4. Most other games I'd want at least some gameplay tweaks, but SM and RE4 both play precisely how they ought to, and for SH2 the gameplay is fairly immaterial to what makes it a masterpiece.
Vagrant Story, for example, could really use some simple equipment system tutorial stuff and a quick weapon switch. Final Fantasy VI could use some serious rebalancing (and if it got an overhaul, I'd want much more and better character-specific dialogue in the entire second half of the game, where most of the lines being uttered are written for 'generic character.') Devil May Cry 3 could really use style switching.
I'll say: Super Metroid, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 4. Most other games I'd want at least some gameplay tweaks, but SM and RE4 both play precisely how they ought to, and for SH2 the gameplay is fairly immaterial to what makes it a masterpiece.
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I admit I just looked at the screenshots showing how faithful the remake demo is to that area of the original game -- certain layouts and things looking 1:1 like the 1994 game but with modern graphics. So I just assumed things like the level design and overall balance were going to be pretty much the same as the original version.
Like I said in another post, a lot of games I'm thinking about here are ones that might need to have their controls adjusted or modernized, but where that could be done without really altering the original balance of the game.
You can't kill what is already dead, buddy.
Also, I can't believe some of you could actually rate Twin Snakes as anything other than absolute garbage tbh
Nah, the Galaxy games don't really need new assets (outside of a few aspects). They look absolutely stunning in HD on the Dolphin.
Now Super Mario 64 on the other hand...
