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What happened to Devil May Cry V?
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I understand what you are saying about making the game more entertaining for the "one and done" type of players, but honestly, I think they would need a much bigger budget to get that done. In this case, all of the money went straight to the gameplay and graphics department, and it shows.
This game is absolutely dedicated to the hardcore DMC players, the exact kind that plays it for the combat above everything else, and I think they did the right call because let's be honest here, it was that same community that kept Devil May Cry 4 relevant by discovering new techniques and creating all of those amazing combo videos for so many years after release.
As much as I love Bayonetta, and I do really love that game, I find it really hard to go back to the story mode when all I want is to enjoy the fighting... It is constantly filled with interruptions and gimmicky gameplay sections that, while feeling incredibly cool the first time around, really suck when it comes to multiple replays.
The one thing nobody can deny is how much love and attention went into DMC V. The story, in general, was great, awesome cinematics and voice acting, plus all the tiny Easter eggs and tons of small things that do nothing for the random gamer but mean a bunch to the people who have been with the series since the beginning. For me, as a DMC, art and animation fan, this game was the gift that kept on giving. I have certainly lost a lot of time in the gallery mode, sucking in all the little details.
I couldn't remember the difficulty level names so I searched google, apparently for DmC.
Devil hunter thats probably it. I played the higher difficulty that it allowed at the beginning.
What are "Dedicated Buttons?" Like Shoot/Melee?
People have expressed this idea a thousand times over, and it usually results in having to cut a lot of systems/utility/general quality of life considerations that the suggester never thinks about because there's so much shit mapped to Dante that you can't just streamline the controls without axing systems. There's a reason why DmC completely killed off Royal Guard and still had to add an extra button combo (Shoot+Jump I think?) just to cover Gunslinger abilities.
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I think the combat in DMC5 is great honestly, I don't see how you couldn't like it as an action fan. I didn't love V but he did feel good to play once you figured out his nuances IMO. If anything the combat is the best aspect of the game, and probably the graphics (although some would prefer the more anime style over the realistic style seen in DMC5). I just feel like the game got bland to play on repeat playthroughs because of the excessive loading, bland environments and repetition sets in.
There are some incredible moments that you can't deny though, like tossing the Goliath in the clock tower as Nero with the Buster Arm, that part amazes me still to this day and I wish there were more spectacle moments in the game. I think that's what Bayonetta does way better, the levels are more replayable because there's more variation within the stages and the spectacle aspect keeps it fresh.
It's weird but I'm more excited to play DMC3 SE on Switch than to replay DMC5, I don't know why but maybe it's just because I'd rather play a game with one set protagonist and Dante is my favorite character.
There are some incredible moments that you can't deny though, like tossing the Goliath in the clock tower as Nero with the Buster Arm, that part amazes me still to this day and I wish there were more spectacle moments in the game. I think that's what Bayonetta does way better, the levels are more replayable because there's more variation within the stages and the spectacle aspect keeps it fresh.
It's weird but I'm more excited to play DMC3 SE on Switch than to replay DMC5, I don't know why but maybe it's just because I'd rather play a game with one set protagonist and Dante is my favorite character.
I thought it was pretty great. You're right about the environments though, probably the only real issue I had with it.
It's because you know deep down that 3 is the best game in the series.
It surprises me that this isn't just taken as fact.
Congrats, you just killed 2/3rds of Dante's move set across every single style with this suggestion
Fucking Christ what even is this thread
I'd recommend playing through Son of Sparda. I honestly had way more fun going through the game a second time on that difficulty, and I already loved the game. It does such a good job ramping up to challenge while still being extremely balanced. The first playthrough really is the tutorial.
They're just not that great. A couple are borderline gimmick fights. The plant monster and the uh like 4 legged Mecha thing. We fight the guy in the throne a couple times and I don't love that then out of the throne he's hilariously immobile. The demon the flying laser woman Cerberus and vergil are all pretty good. But like I just beat dmcv last month. Haven't played dmciv in years. And I can feel the patterns of credo or the manticore guy or the bug scientist in my bones but barely remember the dmcv fights.
No evolution of core concepts? Have you tried Nero? Like, at all? Have you unlocked more than one weapon for Dante?
The OP is hilariously uninformed. I won't waste my time here.
The OP is hilariously uninformed. I won't waste my time here.
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Yeah mos def, I always preferred playing DMC4 Dante because of the on-the-fly style change gameplay, but now that DMC3 will have it plus more stuff we don't know about yet I'm all in.
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They are the best realistic models in video games currently
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Well I beat the game and there was no challenge and I didn't have any incentive to play through the game due to the generic level design. I guess I just don't 'get it' when it comes to dmc. Sekiro on the other hand was very challenging and I had no problem starting a new game + immediately when I was finished. Sekiro made dmc seem very boring to me. I still played it and liked it ok, but compared to Sekiro, which I just got done playing, it wasn't anywhere near the same level.
Besides it being boring, V being a drag to play with, ugly bland world, the thing that pissed me off the most was how the game wanted me to spend real money whenever i died to buy some shitty ass crystals or whatever it was, fuck you i paid full price this is not some FTP game.
Quit halfway and never looked back.
Quit halfway and never looked back.
Nostalgia may have presented previous boss entries as better when mechanically DMC5 bosses are just as robust imo.
Goliath is basically Berial with better parries mechanics, aerial control and multiple location transitions.
Artemis is dodge city if you actually manage to fully utilize punchline
Geryon has interesting mechanics if you manage to use Nightmare at the right time
All of Urizen is fantastically made from design to the variety of moves that are from previous bosses, almost like training the player
Malphas teleports that can be attack connected or parried is hype alone
Cerebrus Unchained with 3 phases... nuff said
Vergil still holding dat best boss of the decade in twice in a row
and finally the best of DMC5.......
Cavaliere Angelo
I would say all the other games also had canon fodder bosses and mechanically in depth bosses, doesn't make DMC5 any weaker.
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I don't remember this ever happening. From what I remember, the game never shoved the MTX in your face. They were there in the main menu or something and that's it.
My real issue is V never had a NG+ moveset. Dante is already a super fleshed out character and Nero had his devil breakers but V never got something extra and he felt somewhat lacking on replays.
I never understood the bland environment thing. I guess? But it didn't bother me.
Trish and Lady do get snubbed, so here's hoping DMC5SE with Ladies Night and Vergil is coming.
I never understood the bland environment thing. I guess? But it didn't bother me.
Trish and Lady do get snubbed, so here's hoping DMC5SE with Ladies Night and Vergil is coming.
Don't worry about him. He's wrong and just wants to be mad at the game.
This is the death screen:
It only asks you if you want to spend a Gold Orb or Red Orbs (both obtainable in-game). It doesn't prompt you to buy anything with MTX.
Oh yeah there we go. Sure you can buy those with real money but like you said, the game doesn't prompt you in the death screen. You actually have to go out of your way to do it. Man I still remember how cynical people were before the game launched, swearing that the game was gonna be balanced with MTX in mind. They were 100% sure, saying they weren't gonna buy the game (as if they ever were lol). Obviously they were wrong and then were nowhere to be found afterwards.Don't worry about him. He's wrong and just wants to be mad at the game.
This is the death screen:
It only asks you if you want to spend a Gold Orb or Red Orbs (both obtainable in-game). It doesn't prompt you to buy anything with MTX.
You aren't completely wrong. This is the problem with game difficulty.
You can either make your game easy hence the game becomes far more accessible to many people. However because of this , a lot of people will be able to breeze through the game. And many would just miss the feature entirely.
Sekiro, Souls and earlier games like DMC3,NGB..etc embrace the difficulty and essentially force the player to learn the combat system to survive. But that leads to the problem where you have tons of people complaining about how difficult the game is.
In this scenario I look at DMC5's normal mode as just a tutorial to unlock and learn each move , since there is such a fukton of them. But perhaps Capcom should have unlocked Hard mode from the get go.
Yo I wanna play whatever action games you are playing that makes DMC5 of all things feel clunky.
I never saw this screen so I had no idea it was like this 😏Don't worry about him. He's wrong and just wants to be mad at the game.
This is the death screen:
It only asks you if you want to spend a Gold Orb or Red Orbs (both obtainable in-game). It doesn't prompt you to buy anything with MTX.
And the game hands out Gold Orbs like candy anyway, including just for logging in to play.Don't worry about him. He's wrong and just wants to be mad at the game.
This is the death screen:
It only asks you if you want to spend a Gold Orb or Red Orbs (both obtainable in-game). It doesn't prompt you to buy anything with MTX.
I loved DMCV so much and beat a lot of different difficulties all the way up to Dante must Die where I still need to finish that one.
I agree with this guy about the forced character switching I don't like to be forced to play as V. It was fine to be V on the first playthru but as the difficulties get harder, etc I just get really tired of his segments. Her doesnt feel like a true Devil Hunter at all. I appreciate they wanted him to feel original but DMC4SE had all great to play characters . I guess people complained everyone was too awesome so they added V I have no idea.
I'm sure there's prob some hardcore V fans out there that may say the problem lies with me and they prob right.Looking at videos of SunhiLegend etc play I'm not a very good player so this is all just hot takes from a casual
[edit] Oh nice just scanned the thread and seeing lots of complaints about V!!! Maybe I'm not the poop-stain I thought I was.
I agree with this guy about the forced character switching I don't like to be forced to play as V. It was fine to be V on the first playthru but as the difficulties get harder, etc I just get really tired of his segments. Her doesnt feel like a true Devil Hunter at all. I appreciate they wanted him to feel original but DMC4SE had all great to play characters . I guess people complained everyone was too awesome so they added V I have no idea.
I'm sure there's prob some hardcore V fans out there that may say the problem lies with me and they prob right.Looking at videos of SunhiLegend etc play I'm not a very good player so this is all just hot takes from a casual
[edit] Oh nice just scanned the thread and seeing lots of complaints about V!!! Maybe I'm not the poop-stain I thought I was.
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DMC3 is definitely still the best IMO.
DMCV environments weren't great, and the forced character switching has never been something I liked. I'd prefer a game that's all Nero or all Dante, two separate campaigns, or one campaign where you can play whoever you want whenever.
DMCV is still a 9/10 though.
DMCV environments weren't great, and the forced character switching has never been something I liked. I'd prefer a game that's all Nero or all Dante, two separate campaigns, or one campaign where you can play whoever you want whenever.
DMCV is still a 9/10 though.
OP is crazy so I'm not gonna bother with that but
So if/when we get DMC5SE, I fully expect it to come with a mode that let's you play through every mission with the character of your choosing.
This was actually planned (never officially announced tho) and even shown in one of the trailers (Dante is fighting demons in Mission 1) but for some reason it didn't pan out in the end. Dataminers have found remnants of this (which was called "Divergence") in the game files.
So if/when we get DMC5SE, I fully expect it to come with a mode that let's you play through every mission with the character of your choosing.
For some dumb reason I thought I'd be able to pick who I play as when I replay'ed it. Was so confused when it forced me to play as V again lmao
You can thank DmC for this. None of the mainline games did that before now.
Pretty much the result of people seeing the V in the logo and concluding that's how the title is written, only to miss the Arabic numeral in the name the same as the other sequels.