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What I actually said on Kotaku Splitscreen about the PlayStation 5's specs
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If you want an expansion SSD to play PS5 games from, it needs to be at least a little bit faster than the internal SSD. So, yes, the one's the compatible ones will give the same performance, otherwise they won't be verified as compatible.
In general i agree but they could have at least talked/showed their Ray-tracing solution...It feels like they just skipped over that.
Complains about trolling and shiposting and then continues to troll and shitpost...
My question is: is there a point of diminishing returns (re: ssd speed). Xb is half the speed in raw and compressed... but, can you actually use the full 8gb/s enough that it makes a diff over 4Gbs. Sony needs to prove that to me, and I think the fact MS has enough of a speed bar, we will see most of the gain Cerny talked about regardless in crossplatform titles.
Yes, Sony will only allow to expand storage with SSD that can run at same speeds, which dosent even exist on the market yet. They will make a list of brand and models of SSD drives that can be used.
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Oh hey would you look at that:
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Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
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enlighten me where I trolled or shitposted. I'm waiting. Just to make it clear to you: Ori is a fantastic game. But only one doesn't cut it when compared to Nintendo or Sony which both are putting out more exclusive games throughout the year. Nothing is trolling or shitposting about the simple truth.
Even on the face of it, 15 percent more power should hardly be described as significant. There is less difference between the X and the PS5 than there was between the One and the PS4. Hardly earth shattering. Sony should have waited to showcase titles that take advantage of its unique features, but it will not matter that.much if they nail their design, OS, games and price reveal, whenever that happens.
I think the best thing to take away from all of this, is that they're both very good, very fast machines; absolutely huge improvements over last gen systems and without immediate clear design flaws.
I remember when last gen systems were announced with Jaguar CPU's I felt an immediate disappointment. A few weeks before Epic had also stated that they wanted GPU's to be at the > 2.4(?) TF level, and both consoles were announced at <2 TF.
This time we get fast SSD's, >10 TF GPU's and very good CPU's. I can't wait for first all party dev's and Rockstar to take advantage of all of this. We're in for a great gen.
I remember when last gen systems were announced with Jaguar CPU's I felt an immediate disappointment. A few weeks before Epic had also stated that they wanted GPU's to be at the > 2.4(?) TF level, and both consoles were announced at <2 TF.
This time we get fast SSD's, >10 TF GPU's and very good CPU's. I can't wait for first all party dev's and Rockstar to take advantage of all of this. We're in for a great gen.
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Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
Dude, you're kind of petty. But you do you. Get those dunks in.
Not to mention the natural diminishing returns.
It will be funny if multiplats are released and the only difference between them is a higher texture buffer or a bigger draw distance, especially because some developers will opt for parity in terms of graphical fidelity AND load times.
Well it be fair I think it's more like this:
This is like the Fox News or Drudge Report of diagrams. I love how the PS5's GPU and CPU Shrink to like a quarter of the XSX's, when Cerny is talking about 2% downclocks at power load spikes, which would still keep it in the ~10tflop range (20% difference to XSX).
Even then, I don't think people have grasped that the 10.28 tflop figure implies the PS5 can run at max capped clocks on both the CPU and GPU at the same time. If it couldn't, the Tflop figure would presumably be lower.
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If anyone has earned the right to be petty, it's Jason "Sneakfucker" Schreier.
As someone who has bought both consoles since PS2/Xbox, I'm just psyched that both Microsoft and Sony absolutely have their shit together with these machines. It's such an exciting time.
Right there with you (though I didn't have an XBO this gen).
Yeah you are.
It helps if you know who you are dealing with.... Less annoyances....
Hope the mods step up their game with all the trolling and annoying ways some are acting!
The resolution not being linear has already been happening. Sony's solution with the PS4Pro was checkerboard rendering but seems like most ended up doing different resolution scaling. It is also used on the Switch.
Apple/Android efficiencies are not comparable since the Series X is still a box with set hardware.
Also the more a developer takes advantages of aspects specific to one platform/box the more work it would take to port. It may also cause other issues. I believe this is why we're in a situation where original Xbox, 360 games, and now even Xbox One games are able to run in higher resolutions, frame rates, etc. without developer patches on newer Xbox hardware. Sony's method seems to limit the benefits of boost mode or backward compatibility in general.
It has a different set of strengths and weaknesses than the X, and first party games will be able to do some unique things due to that lightning fast SSD.
Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
Wow that's some heavy words.
That's all fine and dandy, but will it have Knack 3?Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
No, but devs are very excited with the console. And that's enough for me
But that's way less of a statement of fact than what you said in the transcript. That's not even comparing it to the XSX, really.Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
The Order 1887 will look insane.Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
Starting to feel a little.... strange what you're doing, Idk. Like vindictive almost?Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
Why not just let each console shine? Why spend all this time and energy just to make sure people know the ps5 is more powerful.
Each will have their own strengths and secret sauces and gamers will enjoy both!
Sure, I'll quote your trolling and shitposting again.
Claiming that Ori is the only exclusive Xbox has is straight up trolling /shitposting.
oh! in that case, my guess is no - I'd assume that they'll have some portion of it that's reserved for whatever hardware needs they might have. no matter how much you install, they'll probably not allow you to touch however much space they need in order to ensure performance.
that's not inherently unfair to do. however, when it comes to hardware, the truth is that there is a lot of shit that can be done, in ways that average consumers don't even think about. (for full disclosure here, while I'm not a professional, I'm about to graduate with a degree in computer engineering, and have a fair bit of experience with low-level programming and architecture.) while I'm not going to assume that the ps5 is going to miraculously be more powerful, I think it's at least prudent to wait for concrete examples so we can evaluate if they're living up to what they've said.
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You're misunderstanding. What I'm trying to explain is that despite Sony's marketing flub, and despite the direct spec sheet comparisons, the sentiment from game developers is all about how exciting this thing is. So as console warrior after console warrior fights over teraflops, my advice is to listen to the people who have actually been using the machine.
Since when does a game journalist (one of the best there is) tell you which console is the best? Wtf is wrong with you people..? It's not like he has tried any of them, he does not program games for them.
He is just airing his own thoughts, based on what he has heard from devs etc. He isn't more qualified than most of the posters on this site.
You all need to calm down and play the waiting game, like Sony and MS are doing right now..
He is just airing his own thoughts, based on what he has heard from devs etc. He isn't more qualified than most of the posters on this site.
You all need to calm down and play the waiting game, like Sony and MS are doing right now..
The fact that is people outside Sony clariying the situation and saving their face explains clearly how lacking they are in their marketing and communication strategy. There has been an online fire since yesterday and Sony has not even noticed or moved a finger to put it out.
With social media and the internet, EVERY communication is marketing. No matter whom they are addressing, everybody will be listening and they should have predicted that. Either they don't know this or don't care. In both cases its the brand being hurt and a marketing failure. Companies in the entertainment industry cannot make a single statement, tweet or public act without thinking of their audience, first.
Yeah but how many puddles it could handle in Spider-Man 2Oh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
Which other 1FP games are coming out for Xbox One exclusively that are as high profile as Nintendo/Sony releases in upcoming months until XSX releases? Actually curious. Maybe I actually missed some. I'll be gladly proven wrong otherwise.
And you would know called it right the entire time, im happy with both
I really don't envy you... Even explaining to people trying there best to not understand what is being said....
Sony is cleary founding a new The Order, that's why RAD CTO is praising PS5. /sOh hey would you look at that:
Andrea Pessino on Twitter
“Dollar bet: within a year from its launch gamers will fully appreciate that the PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed, and will feel silly for having spent energy arguing about "teraflops" and other similarly misunderstood specs. 😘”
ps: would like a new The Order
Sony is really messing up their messaging. Hopefully things are clearer once they do a proper reveal.
Back in October of '18 the forum had a great concentration of coherent members.
What a time.
Got ya.
So it's more that the usual idiots on forums are being dramatic and you just want people to know both of these machines are incredible.
lets be honest Jason we all just want destiny 2 load times to disappear and to open my character and have things actually load!!!!
And now moving goalposts lmao. Embarrasing. Don't complain about tolling when you yourself are trolling, it's not a good look.
The larger point is that "better/stronger" isn't a binary distinction and at this point it's unclear how the particular advantages of each box will play out in the real world.
evading questions is not a good look on yourself. I'm not starting a list war here, I'm actually being curious. But alas. It's seemingly not worth to continue discussing with you when you can't have a normal discussion yourself.
I think that's how we like to think of ourselves, but in reality, I see more intelligent and well thought-out takes regularly on Reddit nowadays, and that's a sequence of words I never thought I'd use.
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